Current Events > I'll let other people get the vaccine first to make sure it's safe

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this gratefuldead fella seems like he has bigger issues than possibly giving covid to other people. for example being told to do something that helps others, just on principle, means you should harm others instead because cs lewis told him to

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Will_Vill posted...

It just comes down to these people being profoundly stupid. Unfortunately their stupidity affects the rest of us this time.

They don't understand the incubation period, asymptomatic spread, and variants that have evolved because they refuse any common sense practices throughout this, and refuse the vaccine.

Not everyone who doesnt want to get vaccinated is an idiot. Needle-phobias exist.

Id agree that most are just incredibly ignorant and dumb though, tbh

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Seeing how the MAGAs behaved these last 14 months I'm 100% in favor of vaccine passports.

Don't want to get the shot? Use curbside. Employer requires it? Find a new job. School requires it? Find a private school. Watch events on tv. Just fuck off from society cause you're too stupid to be a part of it.

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Samurontai posted...

Not everyone who doesnt want to get vaccinated is an idiot. Needle-phobias exist.

Id agree that most are just incredibly ignorant and dumb though, tbh

Okay that's a hair splitting moment here. The issue isn't the outliers.

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Will_Vill posted...

Seeing how the MAGAs behaved these last 14 months I'm 100% in favor of vaccine passports.

Don't want to get the shot? Use curbside. Employer requires it? Find a new job. School requires it? Find a private school. Watch events on tv. Just fuck off from society cause you're too stupid to be a part of it.

aaaAAAhhhhHhhhhHhH tYrAnNy!!!!! let us in so we can kill someone! it's our right!!!

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ThyCorndog posted...

this gratefuldead fella seems like he has bigger issues than possibly giving covid to other people. for example being told to do something that helps others, just on principle, means you should harm others instead because cs lewis told him to

i dont believe in harming others. But I certainly am not obligated to help anyone or help society. If someone tells me to do something I make my own decision which is exactly what I was advocating for in this topic. I didnt criticize anyone getting a vaccine or tell people dont do it because of whatever reasons. I said make your own decisions and dont let other people force you into taking medical treatment for the greater good. If you want to, do it for you and your own safety. That was the reason I spoke up because someone needs to care about freedom of bodily choice.

Me personally I dont fear covid and Im not sick so Im not getting vaccinated its really that simple. That shouldnt affect anyones decision to get it so not sure how that would be trolling

I did that in December and January and once I knew it was cool I got my stab.

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I certainly am not obligated to help anyone or help society.

Then don't live in a society. Go be a hunter-gatherer.


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GratefulDead posted...

i dont believe in harming others. But I certainly am not obligated to help anyone or help society. If someone tells me to do something I make my own decision which is exactly what I was advocating for in this topic. I didnt criticize anyone getting a vaccine or tell people dont do it because of whatever reasons. I said make your own decisions and dont let other people force you into taking medical treatment for the greater good. If you want to, do it for you and your own safety. That was the reason I spoke up because someone needs to care about freedom of bodily choice.

Me personally I dont fear covid and Im not sick so Im not getting vaccinated its really that simple. That shouldnt affect anyones decision to get it so not sure how that would be trolling

are you aware that there are some people who can't get vaccinated because of allergies/etc? and then there's the small % of people who take the vaccine but don't become immune

is it fair to them for your selfish ass to walk around and pass covid on to them because you're not worried about it?

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DarkRoast posted...

I certainly am not obligated to help anyone or help society.

Then don't live in a society. Go be a hunter-gatherer.

I live in Florida luckily we believe in freedom of choice AND living in a society

GratefulDead posted...

i dont believe in harming others. But I certainly am not obligated to help anyone or help society. If someone tells me to do something I make my own decision which is exactly what I was advocating for in this topic. I didnt criticize anyone getting a vaccine or tell people dont do it because of whatever reasons. I said make your own decisions and dont let other people force you into taking medical treatment for the greater good. If you want to, do it for you and your own safety. That was the reason I spoke up because someone needs to care about freedom of bodily choice.

Me personally I dont fear covid and Im not sick so Im not getting vaccinated its really that simple. That shouldnt affect anyones decision to get it so not sure how that would be trolling

You don't understand asymptomatic spread. You're not an intelligent person.

Or you're trolling and your goal is to make us think you're a stupid person. Then congratulations, you fooled me.

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Me personally I dont fear covid and Im not sick so Im not getting vaccinated its really that simple.

It's not about whether or not you're afraid, it's about the immunosuppressed individual, the person with cancer, the elderly who are relying on you not being a vector of disease.

Or to put it another way, you may not be afraid of driving drunk, but the children crossing the road are afraid of you driving drunk.

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Me personally I dont fear covid and Im not sick so Im not getting vaccinated its really that simple.

Come on. It's 20 minutes out of your day and painless.

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GratefulDead posted...

AND living in a society

Damn yall call that a society down there?

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Sarcasm can be hard to detect on the internet. When I clicked on this topic I thought "WTF DarkRoast, I thought you were a doctor" before it hit me. BTW, I got the first dose of Pfizer(keep wanting to spell it with a h for some reason) on Tuesday, and nothing but a little soreness for a couple days. The solder who administered it was so gentle, I didn't even feel it. When I get the flu shot at the grocery store, the pharmacist usually jabs it in hard.

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_Sazando_ posted...

i tried to get the vaccine a few days ago, when i went there the folks started asking me general questions and because i told them that i had covid before in march of this year they decided against vaccinating me. they told me to come back mid/late june to wait until it's been 3 months since i last recovered from covid

Unless you have a preexisting condition or got monoclonal antibody treatment, it's a logistics demand, not a health one. Some places without enough vaccines are telling people to wait 60 to 90 days after having COVID because their natural antibodies will provide some temporary, limited resistance for two or three months, and the priority is to vaccinate as many people as possible who have no type of antibodies presently. So, they're passing you up for someone who may be at slightly more risk.

Not honoring a scheduled appointment is preposterous, though; it's not like they could give that already-drawn vaccine to someone else if they're taking appointments to give it to specific numbers of people.

I've also heard that sometimes people who've had COVID have a rougher time with dose one than people who haven't. Still not as bad as COVID, but depending on the thought processes of your local health department, they may also be trying to do some preemptive (irresponsible) PR damage control; my local health department is trying to figure out how to do messaging to counter people who got the shot, felt crappy afterwards, and are now telling their friends not to get it because "you'll just feel sick anyhow."

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Will_Vill posted...

Okay that's a hair splitting moment here. The issue isn't the outliers.

I wouldnt really call it an outlier though. It affects a size-able portion of the adult population of the United States. Its not as prevalent as anti-vax dumb fucks, but its still a good chunk of the population.

But I will give you that its hard to estimate how many people refuse to get vaccinated because of this fear, when compared to people being anti-science, so it is possible that its an outlier.

At any rate, most people are just stupid, and anti-science is in the rise in the world so Id pretty much agree that most people that refuse to get it are just dumb.

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DarkRoast posted...

Me personally I dont fear covid and Im not sick so Im not getting vaccinated its really that simple.

It's not about whether or not you're afraid, it's about the immunosuppressed individual, the person with cancer, the elderly who are relying on you not being a vector of disease.

Or to put it another way, you may not be afraid of driving drunk, but the children crossing the road are afraid of you driving drunk.

i dont know what to tell you I dont care about saving somebodies grandma or the person with cancer. Take it up with the big guy upstairs sucks we live in a world where those things happen. But otherwise Im just gonna live my life and then someday Ill die too.

GratefulDead posted...

i dont know what to tell you I dont care about saving somebodies grandma or the person with cancer. Take it up with the big guy upstairs sucks we live in a world where those things happen. But otherwise Im just gonna live my life and then someday Ill die too.

Sounds sociopathic to me


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Okay, so you're a sociopath

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DarkRoast posted...

Okay, so you're a psychopath

Psychopathy equates to some level of intelligence. Doesnt seem like this guy is very intelligent to me

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Why are you guys arguing with some shitposter's four-days old alt?

This place would really benefit from a karma gate...

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Kitt posted...

Why are you guys arguing with some shitposter's four-days old alt?

This place would really benefit from a karma gate...

People like this are out there and genuine.

I'm at a point though where the only tragedy if people like this die of covid-19 or get permanent health problems, is who they may have spread it to.

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Its FOXDIE you fucking sheep!

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I'm superior, look at me, I'm vaccinated

Everyone else must be going to hell

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Needle-phobics need to literally buck the fuck up. Go to a doctor, have them hold your hand, lie down while they do it and cry all you need to, but it is wholly unacceptable to fail the Trolley Problem because of an irrational fear. This is 'letting a bus go over a cliff because there was a spider in the road' levels of not-needing-to-be-accepted.

At the vax megaclinic where I volunteered, there were at least ten people who came through my line deathly afraid of needles and got it anyway because it's simple and the right thing to do. There was special med tent for them to go so they wouldn't have to cry in public and so they'd have a cot to lie down in if they passed out. There were doctors stationed at four different parts of the facility for people to ask questions to and tens of volunteers on hand whose job it was to be a moral support assistant for the phobics. But there's no excuse for every single physically/medically capable person to not get their full course of vaccines every time.

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VanananaHeyHey posted...

Needle-phobics need to literally buck the f*** up. Go to a doctor, have them hold your hand, lie down while they do it and cry all you need to, but it is wholly unacceptable to fail the Trolley Problem because of an irrational fear. This is 'letting a bus go over a cliff because there was a spider in the road' levels of not-needing-to-be-accepted.

For me I just look away and I barely feel anything. Also, is it me or is needle technology really good these days? Like theyre really tiny compared to the past? I could just have a faulty memory.


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VanananaHeyHey posted...

Needle-phobics need to literally buck the fuck up

i was one of those, that's why i opted for the J&J vaccine. rather have some protection rather than none.
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GratefulDead posted...

i dont believe in harming others.

Your posts say otherwise.
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My manager actually used this OP argument word for word after I announced I got my 2nd shot.

Let's just say her Respect level went down like 95pts after that.

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Shablagoo posted...

For me I just look away and I barely feel anything. Also, is it me or is needle technology really good these days? Like theyre really tiny compared to the past? I could just have a faulty memory.

I agree. I personally don't have any issues with needles; I'm not like "yeah, awesome, getting a shot!" but, you know, I'm basically find with the little prick. The first dose, I felt literally nothing. Entirely painless, fastest shot I'd ever had. Second dose, I did feel, but it was also more like a very cold poke than a piercing of skin. And then side effects about 48 hours later (day-after was totally fine, weirdly) that mimicked a mild flu or gnarly cold.

I have no proof of it either, but I also think needles are getting smaller and shorter for most things.

kingdrake2 posted...

i was one of those, that's why i opted for the J&J vaccine. rather have some protection rather than none.

Thank you for doing that! I really hope you don't have any adverse effects. They're extremely rare and all the clotting was in women 18 to 50, so you're probably safe. I'm very, very thankful you went with an option that could work for you and for public health.

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GratefulDead posted...

I live in Florida luckily we believe in freedom of choice AND living in a society

I would hardly call Florida a society.
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Shablagoo posted...

For me I just look away and I barely feel anything. Also, is it me or is needle technology really good these days? Like theyre really tiny compared to the past? I could just have a faulty memory.

For real. I even said that to the guy who gave me mine. Was like.... That's it? Just felt like a slight pinch.
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i was one of those people who didn't plan on getting it really, then my dad exposed my mom and I to COVID because my mom is an idiot and I signed up for a vaccine right away. So now my mom and I are vaccinated.

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I don't understand people that refuse to take the vaccine would they rather roll the dice and just get covid?

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refmon posted...

I don't understand people that refuse to take the vaccine would they rather roll the dice and just get covid?

they either think the vaccine is worse, or they would rather selfishly take their chances with covid and risk spreading it to others on principle cause they don't want to be told what to do

so it's dumb and dumber, basically

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GratefulDead is sus...

...pended.

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refmon posted...

I don't understand people that refuse to take the vaccine would they rather roll the dice and just get covid?

We're talking about people who say "there's a 99% chance I'll be fine if I get covid, so why should I be worried?" While simultaneously posting non-stop about a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of a blood clot being proof that vaccines are dangerous.

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I gotta appreciate how fast that guy contradicted themselves.

"I don't believe in harming others."

"I dont care about saving somebodies grandma or the person with cancer. "

Lol, glad they're gone

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inTaCtfuL posted...

I gotta appreciate how fast that guy contradicted themselves.

"I don't believe in harming others."

"I dont care about saving somebodies grandma or the person with cancer. "

Lol, glad they're gone

Even if they were just trolling, there's something wrong with people like this.

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I don't want it though.

What're you going to do, mandate me to get it?

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PaunchyTurtle53 posted...

I don't want it though.

What're you going to do, mandate me to get it?

Will_Vill posted...

Don't want to get the shot? Use curbside. Employer requires it? Find a new job. School requires it? Find a private school. Watch events on tv. Just fuck off from society cause you're too stupid to be a part of it.

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undefined posted...

Don't want to get the shot? Use curbside. Employer requires it? Find a new job. School requires it? Find a private school. Watch events on tv. Just fuck off from society cause you're too stupid to be a part of it.

But while everyone else was staying at home on their asses, I was out working for the past year, and I was hailed as a "Hero" for being an essential worker. Now suddenly I'm too stupid to be a part of society? Damn, make up your minds.

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PaunchyTurtle53 posted...

But while everyone else was staying at home on their asses, I was out working for the past year, and I was hailed as a "Hero" for being an essential worker. Now suddenly I'm too stupid to be a part of society? Damn, make up your minds.

Well seeing how you're equating the two, yes

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I'm never getting it

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PaunchyTurtle53 posted...

It just means I'm not a coward.

Or it just means you were lucky enough to not have your job be taken away from you when COVID shut places down, unlike a lot of Americans.

Shut the fuck up. I went to work every day during the pandemic, you don't see me saying I'm not a fucking coward. DarkRoast did as well, and I have tons of disagreements with her, and she didn't get on her high horse about how she's not a coward.

PaunchyTurtle53 posted...

It also means that for the past year I haven't had COVID

No. It means you never got symptoms from COVID.

PaunchyTurtle53 posted...

haven't even met anyone who's died from it. So I don't see the vaccine as a necessity for me or my community.

That is the dumbest "logic" I've ever fucking heard.
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I haven't had COVID, and haven't even met anyone who's died from it.

"I haven't met anyone killed by a drunk driver, so driving drunk must be safe"

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sktgamer_13dude posted...

That is the dumbest "logic" I've ever fucking heard.

So? You don't live in my community, so I don't care what your opinions on it are.

Also, side note, telling me to get off my high horse is ironic, considering everyone in this thread who's been vaccine have been acting like they're champions of morality and virtue.

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