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FortuneCookie
05/10/21 1:22:19 PM
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Warner Bros. is making a standalone Superman movie; a period piece in which Clark Kent and General Zod are Black. When they made a standalone race-swapped movie, they saw fit to include Zod. Between that and Man of Steel, General Zod is being canonized as Superman's primary adversary. And when they decide to do an ongoing Superman series again, you can bet Zod will be there front and center.

Say what you will about Lex Luthor as a character, it's the lack of competition which has hindered Superman. The chief complaint is that he's too invincible. Now that Superman's main foe is going to be someone on his level, I expect the Man of Steel to be measured more for his own merits than for his lack of suitable opposition.
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Duncanwii
05/10/21 1:24:54 PM
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Superman had always been popular. I cant tell you why he's as bland as day old bread, but he has.
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Funkydog
05/10/21 1:25:43 PM
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Superman fighting "Super strong enemies" is one of the most boring parts of superman tbh.

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CADE FOSTER
05/10/21 1:25:56 PM
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Superman is awesome
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Duncanwii
05/10/21 1:27:05 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
Superman is awesome

Why? Hes like the epitome of overpowered boring heroes.
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eston
05/10/21 1:29:09 PM
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MrMallard
05/10/21 1:29:57 PM
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I sure hope so, I love Superman.

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Christian RULES
05/10/21 1:29:58 PM
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I can't believe WB would willingly sabotage themselves by giving up an OP Superman like Henry Cavill along with the Snyderverse for a black Superman.

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CADE FOSTER
05/10/21 1:30:10 PM
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eston posted...
But why are they black
Why not white people played minorities for decades in movies still do
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MrMallard
05/10/21 1:31:18 PM
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Christian RULES posted...
I can't believe WB would willingly sabotage themselves by giving up an OP Superman like Henry Cavill along with the Snyderverse for a black Superman.
This Superman isn't replacing the Snydervwrse Superman. They're doing a oneshot movie like Joker.

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g0ldie
05/10/21 1:31:43 PM
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*MCU super strong characters fighting their super strong enemies* everyone: cool, man

*Superman fighting his super strong enemies* everyone:

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/10/21 1:32:08 PM
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There is a black Superman in the comics, they should have just told his story.

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CADE FOSTER
05/10/21 1:32:25 PM
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g0ldie posted...
*MCU super strong characters fighting their super strong enemies* everyone: cool, man

*Superman fighting his super strong enemies* everyone:
yeah its pretty dumb
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Fenrimis
05/10/21 1:33:18 PM
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Shit Scarlett Johansson got flak for playing a motoko in Ghost in the Shell but here we are making black superman without a care. I thought we considered race-swapping fictional characters bad.

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MrMallard
05/10/21 1:33:57 PM
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Every topic, I swear to fucking god

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CADE FOSTER
05/10/21 1:34:27 PM
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Lex luthor was black in almost all the animated movies
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eston
05/10/21 1:35:58 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
Why not white people played minorities for decades in movies still do
I don't think they did that as a gimmick though

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CADE FOSTER
05/10/21 1:38:42 PM
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doesnt matter let minorities play parts that were commonly white about time tbh the triggering of the right is worth it
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eston
05/10/21 1:42:34 PM
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I don't really care about triggering the right tbqh they stay triggered anyway

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Prestoff
05/10/21 1:44:39 PM
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Superman has always been popular and iconic thougb. My dad from the country side in Vietnam even knew who he was as a kid.

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DarkBuster22904
05/10/21 1:46:06 PM
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eston posted...
I don't think they did that as a gimmick though
tell that to RDJ, lol

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CADE FOSTER
05/10/21 1:49:49 PM
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eston posted...
I don't really care about triggering the right tbqh they stay triggered anyway
you dont have to watch it tbh
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jon1012
05/10/21 2:35:52 PM
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I wonder if Lois will still be White.

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FortuneCookie
05/10/21 4:24:14 PM
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Christian RULES posted...
I can't believe WB would willingly sabotage themselves by giving up an OP Superman like Henry Cavill along with the Snyderverse for a black Superman.

They got rid of Henry Cavill when he refused to shave his mustache for reshoots. He cost them millions over dollars over a mustache. Cavill is a great Superman, but I can't blame them after that.
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Ryven
05/10/21 4:28:54 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
They got rid of Henry Cavill when he refused to shave his mustache for reshoots. He cost them millions over dollars over a mustache. Cavill is a great Superman, but I can't blame them after that.


Because he was under contract and at the time in the middle of shooting Mission Impossible for which he had said mustache. Thats not his fault.

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Xavier_On_High
05/10/21 4:37:32 PM
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I really don't get the "Superman is boring because he's invincible" thing. The drama doesn't come from wondering whether he can win, it comes from wondering whether he can win while still holding on to his humanity and protecting those around him. That's why his arch nemesis is just a rich, amoral human. He could obviously turn Lex into salsa by flicking him, but Superman would be the loser if he did.

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Zikten
05/10/21 4:39:18 PM
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jon1012 posted...
I wonder if Lois will still be White.

I want to know if Ma and Pa Kent will be white or black
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Ivynn
05/10/21 4:39:58 PM
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I wonder if Lex Luthor will be changed to white.

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Zikten
05/10/21 4:40:01 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
I really don't get the "Superman is boring because he's invincible" thing. The drama doesn't come from wondering whether he can win, it comes from wondering whether he can win while still holding on to his humanity and protecting those around him. That's why his arch nemesis is just a rich, amoral human. He could obviously turn Lex into salsa by flicking him, but Superman would be the loser if he did.

True. A lot of people don't understand Superman. Even many of the people who write his stories, sadly
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eston
05/10/21 4:40:20 PM
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Zikten posted...
I want to know if Ma and Pa Kent will be white or black
They'll be Asian

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AmericaTheBrave
05/10/21 4:41:33 PM
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Zikten posted...
I want to know if Ma and Pa Kent will be white or black

They'll be black and renamed to Moms and Pops Kent.

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Proto_Spark
05/10/21 4:45:07 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
They got rid of Henry Cavill when he refused to shave his mustache for reshoots. He cost them millions over dollars over a mustache. Cavill is a great Superman, but I can't blame them after that.

He was middle of shooting another movie where he had the moustache. What was he gonna do? Shave for Justice League then stop production of Mission Impossible (?) for months (at least weeks) so he could grow it back?
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g0ldie
05/10/21 4:47:34 PM
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couldn't he just wear a fake mustache rather than CGI it out?

seems more reasonable, IMO.

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eston
05/10/21 4:49:38 PM
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Mustache Superman was for reshoots, so it's understandable that a different director would not want to fuck up the look in his movie just to save the Superman movie some money

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FortuneCookie
05/10/21 5:24:34 PM
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Ryven posted...
Because he was under contract and at the time in the middle of shooting Mission Impossible for which he had said mustache. Thats not his fault.

Oh, damn. Imagine getting screwed because you're contracted to be clean shaven to one studio and mustached to another.

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marthsheretoo
05/10/21 5:29:12 PM
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g0ldie posted...
*MCU super strong characters fighting their super strong enemies* everyone: cool, man

*Superman fighting his super strong enemies* everyone:

I got sick of Marvel punchfests ages ago, and iirc everyone liked watching Vision's philosophical judo in the Wandavision finale more than the Agatha/Wanda light show. Watching overpowered characters punch each other just isn't as compelling anymore. The market is oversaturated with that shit.

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Malcrasternus
05/10/21 5:35:05 PM
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As long as we get another fight on the scope of Superman and Zod's fight in MoS, by all means.

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KlRBEH
05/10/21 5:36:44 PM
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Ivynn posted...
I wonder if Lex Luthor will be changed to white.
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Darmik
05/10/21 6:00:19 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
I really don't get the "Superman is boring because he's invincible" thing. The drama doesn't come from wondering whether he can win, it comes from wondering whether he can win while still holding on to his humanity and protecting those around him. That's why his arch nemesis is just a rich, amoral human. He could obviously turn Lex into salsa by flicking him, but Superman would be the loser if he did.

It's because he hasn't had a good movie in nearly half a century.

If he had a good movie that showed these qualities people would stop saying it.

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FortuneCookie
05/10/21 6:02:13 PM
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Man of Steel was decent. Superman II is still the best.

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Paragon21XX
05/10/21 6:06:25 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
They got rid of Henry Cavill when he refused to shave his mustache for reshoots. He cost them millions over dollars over a mustache. Cavill is a great Superman, but I can't blame them after that.
Then they should have just gone with using only the scenes Snyder shot instead of handing control over to self-proclaimed male feminist Joss Whedon.

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Darmik
05/10/21 6:06:32 PM
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Man of Steel is decent but it didn't depict Clark Kent as a particularly interesting or likeable character.

Also they didn't get rid of Henry Cavill. The guy left because he knew they were just going to use him for cameos in other stuff instead of his own movie again.

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SRR Capdown
05/10/21 6:19:53 PM
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If/when Cavil comes back, I'd love if they did something like Superman vs The Elite.

That way you do get the quintessential suoer hero punch fest, but laden with the actual stuff thay makes Superman great, as it's all about his humanity.

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