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cjsdowg 05/12/21 11:39:10 AM #1: |
A test to see if a something is a cult. From a website that helps people escape.
Cults begin or evolve with a charismatic leader who claims supreme knowledge. These leaders are able to influence their followers to believe their perspectives and obey their dictates. 1. Is your leader the ultimate authority of your group? Yes No Most cult leaders give themselves impressive made-up names or titles which elevate their status to their followers. They may call themselves the man of God, pastor, prophet, messiah, messenger, enlightened teacher, guru, apostle etc... 2: Does your leader have impressive, made-up names or titles? Yes No Cult leaders convince members to forfeit their critical thinking ability in return for a sense of belonging, authority, and purpose. To members, it doesnt matter what the evidence or logic may suggest, the leader is always right, and their misdeeds are always justified. Criticism of the leader is forbidden. 3: Is your leader always right and therefore you are not allowed to criticise him/her, even if the criticism is true? Yes No Cults generally only allow their members to study their organisation through approved sources. They view critical thinking as an infectious disease and every effort is made to suppress it. Doubting members are encouraged to isolate themselves from outside influences and focus solely on the doctrine of the cult. People who contradict the group are viewed as persecutors and are often given labels like anti, apostate, or rival Members are discouraged from consuming any material that is critical of the group. 4: Are members of your group discouraged from reading anything that is critical of the group? Yes No Because religious cults consider themselves the ultimate authority on truth, the members can't imagine anybody leaving the group with their integrity intact. Thus, they have to perpetuate a false narrative that former members were deceived, backslidden, demonic, bitter, evil, or fallen away etc. 5: As far as your group is concerned, would they say that there is no legitimate reason to leave them? Yes No Does your group insist that the end of the world is near? Cults position themselves as the sole refuge from an evil outside world that is intent on their destruction. Cults thrive on conspiracy theories, catastrophic thinking, and persecution complexes. In an effort to draw in more paying members, cults are often very aggressive in their recruitment efforts which are usually justified as saving people from the evil world. Those who reject the cults message are condemned, unelected, damned, evil, goats, the great unwashed etc... 6: Is your group suspicious about the outside world? Yes No Cults all believe they are right. They are the right group with the right doctrines, the right leader, the right interpretation of their holy book and their leader is right in dictating what laws and rules they are to obey. 7: Does your group believe that they are the right religion/church/group/ones, or only ones, who have right teaching/doctrine? The lying media, the Media is the enemy of the people. Yes No Cults exercise control over their followers. The leader determines the rules/laws and expects to be obeyed or else there are consequences. Rules/laws can include what you cant wear, where you cant live, who you cant eat with, who you cant marry, what job you cant do, who you cant keep company with, what education you cant receive, what your stance is to those who have left the group, and many more. 8: Are there any of the above such rules/laws in your group? Republicans like control so many aspects of people life. Who you can love, what sports you can play ect. Yes No Emotional Separation. Cults are not happy when members leave, primarily, because they think there is never a legitimate reason to leave. Therefore, those who leave are treated negatively. Remaining members, even family members, distance themselves emotionally often shunning and ostracising ex-members. They now see them as unclean, evil, deceived, apostate, an opposer, etc. 9: If you were to leave your religious group, would remaining members, even family members separate themselves from you whereby there would be any emotional detachment? This could be a Yes.. but I giving them the benefit to doubt. Yes No Physical Separation. Cults separate families. This is how it works. A member of a family leaves. The cult now separates the remaining family members with laws/rules. These dictate they can now no longer have normal family life with that member who has left. For example: They are no longer allowed to freely eat and drink with them. They are no longer allowed to stay or live with them. They are no longer allowed to go on holiday with them. They are no longer allowed to celebrate the birth of their children or go to their wedding. They are no longer allowed to fully join in any funeral arrangements. They are no longer allowed to celebrate birthdays or special occasions with them. They are no longer allowed to go shopping with them. They are no longer allowed to contact them. 10: If you were to leave your religious group, would remaining members separate themselves from you and cease to have normal family life as in any of the above examples? Same as 9. I see this happening sometimes but not all the time. Yes No 8/10 and maybe even 10/10 Cult like things from Trumps Republicans. They are a cult. At this point. --- Kamala Harris: "I don't think America is a racist country" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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littlebro07 05/12/21 11:40:25 AM #2: |
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ledbowman 05/12/21 11:41:27 AM #3: |
wow man you really called it
--- pisces ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE FOSTER 05/12/21 11:44:36 AM #4: |
littlebro07 posted...
In other news, the sky is blue ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 05/12/21 12:08:23 PM #5: |
3: Is your leader always right and therefore you are not allowed to criticise him/her, even if the criticism is true?
Not that this negates any other the other talking points, but this is true of both parties. If you criticize or disagree with the left on the slightest thing, you're a conservative in disguise. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 05/12/21 12:09:19 PM #6: |
FortuneCookie posted...
but this is true of both parties"iT's BoTh SiDeS gUyZ c0mE oN" --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 05/12/21 12:10:20 PM #7: |
Doom_Art posted...
"iT's BoTh SiDeS gUyZ c0mE oN" You can't dismiss nuance by quoting Trump. "Both sides" is not a catch-all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fenrimis 05/12/21 12:12:00 PM #8: |
You have a little bit of an obsession with Republicans - 2 topics in 1 hour
--- Wave. PSN: WaveyyyA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 05/12/21 12:12:35 PM #9: |
FortuneCookie posted...
nuanceBoth sidesing is lazy and intellectually dishonest lol Not much in the way of nuance --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evening_Dragon 05/12/21 12:14:10 PM #10: |
FortuneCookie posted...
3: Is your leader always right and therefore you are not allowed to criticise him/her, even if the criticism is true? Stop confusing Twitter with actual politics. --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 05/12/21 12:18:46 PM #11: |
Honestly, a lot of leftists sound more like Trumpers these days. I'm confused as to why so many are so angry when clearly the situation has improved a decent chunk. I get that there's still problems, but chill. Just enjoy the W for a bit and stop being mad about things. Our vaccine roll out has actually been pretty good despite the many mess ups or the prior administration.
--- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 05/12/21 12:19:21 PM #12: |
Doom_Art posted...
Both sidesing is lazy and intellectually dishonest lol FortuneCookie posted...
I even prefaced my post by saying that it didn't invalidate anything else that was said. Besides, lesser of two evils isn't much of an argument either. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 05/12/21 12:21:08 PM #13: |
Evening_Dragon posted...
Stop confusing Twitter with actual politics."Well see people were mean to me on Twitter, so I guess leftists are basically the same as the far-right" --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RedJackson 05/12/21 12:22:50 PM #14: |
Doom_Art posted...
Both sidesing is lazy and intellectually dishonest lol Thats not true, thats just some lame and bullshit ass narrative on GameFAQS cause otherwise the only thing that makes them intellectually impressive goes kapooey --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 05/12/21 12:23:45 PM #15: |
Hold on...
Is CE a cult? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Top Crusader 05/12/21 12:23:58 PM #16: |
*posting to come back and read more into later*
Good break down of it being a literal, not just a figurative, cult. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/12/21 12:24:32 PM #17: |
Every religion comes under a cult by this test
--- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 05/12/21 12:24:37 PM #18: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Hold on... Ding ding ding --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RedJackson 05/12/21 12:24:38 PM #19: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Hold on... --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 05/12/21 12:25:03 PM #20: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Every religion comes under a cult by this testUU probably doesn't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArchNemo 05/12/21 12:27:18 PM #21: |
Doom_Art posted...
Both sidesing is lazy and intellectually dishonest lol But automatically agreeing with your side simply because it's not the other side is the epitome of active and well thought out reasoning, right? --- Down with the Signess. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 05/12/21 12:28:15 PM #22: |
ArchNemo posted...
automatically agreeing with your side simply becausewho said this --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 05/12/21 12:36:33 PM #23: |
if a republican press secretary blatantly, ridiculously lied about american involvement in foreign coups the way psaki did the other day there would be 100 posts howling about it. but crickets when the home team does it
--- pisces ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArchNemo 05/12/21 12:40:32 PM #24: |
Doom_Art posted...
who said this You see this kind of thing constantly now and I'd rather see someone at least acknowledge that both sides can be shitty and try decide on a case by case basis what is wrong or right than write something off just because the wrong people said it. "Both sidsing" isn't automatically lazy, it's lazy when used as a way to pass the buck from a problem, which he didn't do. You honing in on him saying "both sides omg" and that being the only thing you seemed to glean from his post was lazy. --- Down with the Signess. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 05/12/21 12:41:30 PM #25: |
FortuneCookie posted...
3: Is your leader always right and therefore you are not allowed to criticise him/her, even if the criticism is true? Antifar on here has criticized Biden and nobody called him a conservative in disguise. Since your generalization is wrong, is your equivalency wrong? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 05/12/21 12:43:39 PM #26: |
ledbowman posted...
if a republican press secretary blatantly, ridiculously lied about american involvement in foreign coups the way psaki did the other day there would be 100 posts howling about it. but crickets when the home team does it What was the statement that you feel received no criticism? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 05/12/21 12:44:21 PM #27: |
ledbowman posted...
if a republican press secretary blatantly, ridiculously lied about american involvement in foreign coups the way psaki did the other day there would be 100 posts howling about it. but crickets when the home team does it Like no one cares I mean, 4 years of Trump just lowered the bar so much that it almost seems silly to care about stuff like that I get that it is wrong and I don't agree with it, but I can understand it --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendary_zell 05/12/21 12:53:17 PM #28: |
TommyG663513 posted...
Honestly, a lot of leftists sound more like Trumpers these days. I'm confused as to why so many are so angry when clearly the situation has improved a decent chunk. I get that there's still problems, but chill. Just enjoy the W for a bit and stop being mad about things. Our vaccine roll out has actually been pretty good despite the many mess ups or the prior administration. It's the job of the left to be angry about, point out, and fight injustice. Being better than Trump, even significantly better than him doesn't mean things are good or where they need to be. Trump can't be the measuring stick for the left. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 05/12/21 12:55:28 PM #29: |
cjsdowg, I will say that sometimes you go off and rant and it comes across poorly, but here, you have done your homework, so thank you.
--- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 05/12/21 1:08:33 PM #30: |
TommyG663513 posted...
Like no one caresyes that is quaint in the scope of our problems but the only reason liberals aren't complaining is because it can't be used to dunk on the gop --- pisces ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadow Don 05/12/21 1:11:22 PM #31: |
ArchNemo posted...
But automatically agreeing with your side simply because it's not the other side is the epitome of active and well thought out reasoning, right? Are you just making shit up just to fit your dumb narrative? A lot of people who voted Biden are extremely critical of Biden. I am one of those people. I don't like Biden at all but we were dealing with an acute threat to our country from the oval office as demonstrated by the entirety of 2020 and 1/6. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 05/12/21 1:13:16 PM #32: |
yeah I dunno what world these guys live in because the left shits on Biden all the time
--- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArchNemo 05/12/21 1:18:41 PM #33: |
Shadow Don posted...
Are you just making shit up just to fit your dumb narrative? It's not really necessary for me to add "except for people who don't do this thing" when I mention people who do something. For example: "Lots of people like apples except people who don't like apples." Obviously I'm not talking about people who don't do the thing I mentioned in my post. --- Down with the Signess. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThanksUglyGod 05/12/21 1:19:56 PM #34: |
Doom_Art posted...
yeah I dunno what world these guys live in because the left shits on Biden all the timeHell, the left shits on each other all the time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 05/12/21 1:22:19 PM #36: |
Ruvan22 posted...
Antifar on here has criticized Biden and nobody called him a conservative in disguise. Since your generalization is wrong, is your equivalency wrong? I never said either side was hive-minded. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 05/12/21 1:24:38 PM #37: |
Doom_Art posted...
yeah I dunno what world these guys live in because the left shits on Biden all the time I always love when people like Cortez and Omar go against things "the left" believe and they are immediately called conservatives! sAmE tHiNg BoTh SiDeZ!11 --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 05/12/21 1:24:47 PM #38: |
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Hell, the left shits on each other all the time ![]() --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThanksUglyGod 05/12/21 1:46:11 PM #39: |
Doom_Art posted...
LMAO ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 05/12/21 4:35:44 PM #40: |
FortuneCookie posted...
I never said either side was hive-minded. You did? You said if anybody that criticized Biden was called a conservative in disguise? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 05/12/21 11:25:37 PM #41: |
I don't believe I mentioned Biden by name. Nor did I say that everyone on the left was ready to accuse someone for the slightest criticism.
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hockeybub89 05/12/21 11:28:47 PM #42: |
FortuneCookie posted...
3: Is your leader always right and therefore you are not allowed to criticise him/her, even if the criticism is true?But conservatives rag on the left for not being united like them all the time. There is no group in political power or major voting bloc on the left that is anything resembling Trumpism. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 05/12/21 11:29:51 PM #43: |
FortuneCookie posted...
3: Is your leader always right and therefore you are not allowed to criticise him/her, even if the criticism is true? This was your post - the topic is about how the majority of Republicans are now finding fault with anybody that criticizes Trump. Stating "this is true of both parties" implies that.. both parties are doing this to the same extent, unless you state otherwise. But let's say you weren't saying that.. doesn't 99% of a group doing something matter more than 1% of another group doing the same thing? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 05/12/21 11:54:35 PM #44: |
Ruvan22 posted...
This was your post - the topic is about how the majority of Republicans are now finding fault with anybody that criticizes Trump. Stating "this is true of both parties" implies that.. both parties are doing this to the same extent, unless you state otherwise. But let's say you weren't saying that.. doesn't 99% of a group doing something matter more than 1% of another group doing the same thing? I never said Democrats were a cult. I never said the problems in the left-leaning party were equal to the problems in the right-leaning party. I merely stated that the left has a problem with people trying to shush any sort of criticism. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 05/13/21 12:17:11 AM #45: |
FortuneCookie posted...
I never said Democrats were a cult. I never said the problems in the left-leaning party were equal to the problems in the right-leaning party. I merely stated that the left has a problem with people trying to shush any sort of criticism. A) ... the entire left? I thought you just said it *wasn't a hive mind? B) Why does that matter? To repeat the last sentense of my post "doesn't 99% of a group doing something matter more than 1% of another group doing the same thing?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jon1012 05/13/21 12:23:46 AM #46: |
cjsdowg posted...
2: Does your leader have impressive, made-up names or titles? your statement didnt fulfill the criteria --- We are Borg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 05/13/21 1:48:27 AM #47: |
Ruvan22 posted...
A) ... the entire left? I thought you just said it *wasn't a hive mind? If I said America has a problem with gun violence, would you be so quick to interpret that as saying that 99% to 100% of Americans are willing to turn a gun on innocent people? America does have a problem with gun violence. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 05/13/21 1:51:38 AM #48: |
And what do you mean saying that 99% of Democrats are good and 99% of Republicans are bad? Get the fuck outta here with that statistic.
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Humble_Novice 05/13/21 1:53:32 AM #49: |
Of course Republicans belong to a cult.
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Ruvan22 05/14/21 1:04:43 AM #50: |
FortuneCookie posted...
If I said America has a problem with gun violence, would you be so quick to interpret that as saying that 99% to 100% of Americans are willing to turn a gun on innocent people? If you said "America and China have a problem with gun violence", It presumes both are on the same level (This is a basic function of grammar). Since you *didn't* only mention one thing, your example is.. irrelevant? FortuneCookie posted... And what do you mean saying that 99% of Democrats are good and 99% of Republicans are bad? Get the fuck outta here with that statistic. Since you insisted on not providing your own, I made up some numbers for the sake of argument.to demonstrate the concept of magnitude. I'm sorry you feel so threatened by actual numbers - feel free to provide the statistic you feel is appropriate to strengthen your argument (or provide any context for it really). And since you keep refusing to answer, I'll ask again - "Why does that matter?" (that being that some liberals call criticism of liberal values 'conservatives in disguise") ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cemith 05/14/21 1:05:52 AM #51: |
littlebro07 posted...
In other news, the sky is blue --- CE's resident Smash Player || https://imgur.com/NXtuvJ8 "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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