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Jagr_68
05/16/21 9:28:25 AM
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Southernfatman
05/16/21 9:31:26 AM
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ElatedVenusaur
05/16/21 9:31:37 AM
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As we all know, women's bellies and lower backs are harder than steel, ergo, wearing armor over these sections of their bodies would be superfluous. Biology doesn't lie, people.
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Slayer_22
05/16/21 9:35:04 AM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
As we all know, women's bellies and lower backs are harder than steel, ergo, wearing armor over these sections of their bodies would be superfluous. Biology doesn't lie, people.

Their legs as well.

The longer the stronger, as the saying goes.
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cjs28
05/16/21 9:37:26 AM
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lmao

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Laserion
05/16/21 9:39:08 AM
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Men have greater ATK and women have greater DEF?

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Fenrimis
05/16/21 9:39:31 AM
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Because men need more defense to compensate for the lack of speed they have by being stronger. By giving women bikini chainmail they're able to use their speed and flexibility more effectively

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AteIierRyza3462
05/16/21 9:40:09 AM
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No one really cares because its just video games

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The Popo
05/16/21 9:41:34 AM
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AteIierRyza3462 posted...
No one really cares because its just video games

This is real life, dammit



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Vyrulisse
05/16/21 9:42:55 AM
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You literally can't argue against that point.

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KStateKing17
05/16/21 9:49:44 AM
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AteIierRyza3462 posted...
No one really cares because its just video games
Tell that to the MK fanbase

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Prismsblade
05/16/21 9:54:20 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
You literally can't argue against that point.
I could argue the man will have a far higher HP and DEF because their able to equip heavier and stronger armor without impending their combat ability as much.

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sevihaimerej
05/16/21 10:00:03 AM
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Why does bikini armor need logic behind it in a fantasy world with magic and shit in the first place? Don't need any logic to explain drop kicking a 10 story tall golem in the face but WHAT IS SHE WEARING WHO TF LET HER OUTTA THE HOUSE LIKE THAT lmao sounds kinda sexist tbh. Like, do folks that can't take a bikini armor character seriously and dismiss everything about them treat real women that dress sexy the same way?

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DarkRoast
05/16/21 10:11:13 AM
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Best girls wear armor

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Jagr_68
05/16/21 10:15:47 AM
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DarkRoast posted...


Best girls wear armor

Is she supposed to be a maid? Because I don't think that broadsword is appropriate for dusting the family ornaments.

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Irony
05/16/21 10:23:29 AM
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DarkRoast
05/16/21 10:30:13 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
Is she supposed to be a maid? Because I don't think that broadsword is appropriate for dusting the family ornaments.

Yes, she's a maid who wants to be a knight.

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Purple_Cheetah
05/16/21 10:33:53 AM
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The bikini armor is strictly to protect what's important. So long as the boobs and rest are unscathed it's perfectly fine to be attached to a gibbed corpse.

Boob lives matter.
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Vyrulisse
05/16/21 10:37:04 AM
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sevihaimerej posted...
Why does bikini armor need logic behind it in a fantasy world with magic and shit in the first place? Don't need any logic to explain drop kicking a 10 story tall golem in the face but WHAT IS SHE WEARING WHO TF LET HER OUTTA THE HOUSE LIKE THAT lmao sounds kinda sexist tbh. Like, do folks that can't take a bikini armor character seriously and dismiss everything about them treat real women that dress sexy the same way?
Yeah I love how people make the silly "practicality" argument when it comes to Female Armor. It's like you're in a world with magic, zombies and maybe dragons and other cosmic horrors I think practical armor is the least of your concerns.

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Jagr_68
05/16/21 10:41:02 AM
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Purple_Cheetah posted...
The bikini armor is strictly to protect what's important. So long as the boobs and rest are unscathed it's perfectly fine to be attached to a gibbed corpse.

Boob lives matter.

You're not exactly wrong


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UnfairRepresent
05/16/21 10:43:46 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Yeah I love how people make the silly "practicality" argument when it comes to Female Armor. It's like you're in a world with magic, zombies and maybe dragons and other cosmic horrors I think practical armor is the least of your concerns.
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

That's a wishy washy defense tho.

"OMG other things might not make sense so why are you upset by THIS!" is just an evasion.

I got nothing against hot characters but a lot of these outfits are just awful and look silly. Quiet from MGS 5 and Jessica from RE: Revelations just make me embarrased to play the games.

Especially in plot heavy games.

The leaders of the world are having important meetings about war when what looks like a 19 year old girl in a bikini with cleaveage you can ski down bursts in and starts talking dramatically about something... And it all immersion is lost.

Tidus in FFX can leap 60 feet into the air somehow and no one mentions it. That doesn't mean the game wouldn't be worse and stupid if he was wearing a rabbit costume. And going "WEll he can leap 60 feet!" wouldn't be a defense of it.

I'm kinda on the feminsts side on this one. OR best of both worlds, give us the option. Then everyone wins. Like in Dead Rising.

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masterpug53
05/16/21 10:47:59 AM
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DarkRoast posted...


Best girls wear armor

Still not wearing a helmet though, so she might as well be in bikini armor for all the good it'll do her.

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sevihaimerej
05/16/21 11:05:59 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

That's a wishy washy defense tho.

"OMG other things might not make sense so why are you upset by THIS!" is just an evasion.

I got nothing against hot characters but a lot of these outfits are just awful and look silly. Quiet from MGS 5 and Jessica from RE: Revelations just make me embarrased to play the games.

Especially in plot heavy games.

The leaders of the world are having important meetings about war when what looks like a 19 year old girl in a bikini with cleaveage you can ski down bursts in and starts talking dramatically about something... And it all immersion is lost.

Tidus in FFX can leap 60 feet into the air somehow and no one mentions it. That doesn't mean the game wouldn't be worse and stupid if he was wearing a rabbit costume. And going "WEll he can leap 60 feet!" wouldn't be a defense of it.

I'm kinda on the feminsts side on this one. OR best of both worlds, give us the option. Then everyone wins.
-sound kinda insecure if cg cleavage embarrasses you that much

-your immersion is very flimsy if its dependant on how much titty you see.

-Replacing Tidus with a sentient toaster would be a dramatic upgrade lol, not helping your point

-all of what you describe comes down to subjective taste and all you are doing is demonizing the subjective taste of others, practicality/realism is the only other defense given for the subjective view that bikini armor is bad and that's what's being questioned here

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UnfairRepresent
05/16/21 11:09:46 AM
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sevihaimerej posted...


-all of what you describe comes down to subjective taste and all you are doing is demonizing the subjective taste of others
Not really? Since I advocated for options.

But putting that aside, yeah that's what every does. There's a reason why The Last of Us 2 didn't have everyone dressed up as Pringles Cans and Arnold Rimmer outfits.

Because they would be "demonized" for being silly. You're just saying what everyone else wants doesn't matter which is kinda bs.

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sevihaimerej
05/16/21 2:06:28 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Not really? Since I advocated for options.

But putting that aside, yeah that's what every does. There's a reason why The Last of Us 2 didn't have everyone dressed up as Pringles Cans and Arnold Rimmer outfits.

Because they would be "demonized" for being silly. You're just saying what everyone else wants doesn't matter which is kinda bs.
I must have missed that last sentence, my apologies, options is what I advocate for so we agree there. As such, I'm not demonizing subjective taste I'm questioning those that think that just because they percieve something as silly doesn't make it objectively silly, I'm saying all tastes are valid

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FortuneCookie
05/16/21 2:08:04 PM
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Is bikini armor still a thing in video games?
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UnfairRepresent
05/17/21 6:44:53 AM
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sevihaimerej posted...
I must have missed that last sentence, my apologies, options is what I advocate for so we agree there. As such, I'm not demonizing subjective taste I'm questioning those that think that just because they percieve something as silly doesn't make it objectively silly, I'm saying all tastes are valid
I kinda disagree

There are things that are objectively silly

Look at the alternate outfits in God of War and Dead Rising.

The girls outfits in a lot of these games are ridiculous, they look like strippers or half undressed and there's no logic or reasoning behind it

Samara from Mass Effect springs to mind. Hyper religious stoic super old lady ultimate warrior has her giant tits out, exposing all her vital organs for literally no reason

Then the camera zooms in on them while she's talking about murdering her daughter

It's just dumb.

Got no problem with people jacking it to games just don't do it In my face

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apolloooo
05/17/21 6:56:31 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
You're not exactly wrong
How does that evem work

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masterpug53
05/18/21 1:57:05 PM
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SubtletyRefuge posted...

The only reason I'd ever not be in favor of Solution B is if the game world was really, really cold (stupid Skyrim).

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Guerrilla Soldier
05/18/21 2:02:19 PM
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why am i reminded of the movie 300

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Frizzurd
05/18/21 4:55:35 PM
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The Popo posted...
This is real life, dammit


Thanks for giving me a boner.
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sktgamer_13dude
05/18/21 5:00:56 PM
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Slayer_22 posted...


Their legs as well.

The longer the stronger, as the saying goes.

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sktgamer_13dude
05/18/21 5:05:36 PM
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ProfessorKukui posted...
Welp, fun is over ur is here

lmao
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Laserion
05/18/21 5:11:13 PM
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SubtletyRefuge posted...
Solution B male looks like Desert Voe armor.

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Dakimakura
05/20/21 3:57:35 AM
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Womens are weaker they can't carry all that weight. They just have strategic protection of what they can carry.

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sevihaimerej
05/20/21 11:28:14 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Got no problem with people jacking it to games just don't do it In my face
Is that something that happens to you often?

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Veggeta X
05/20/21 11:32:21 AM
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There are somethings that shouldn't be answered and this is one of them.

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MorbidFaithless
05/20/21 12:07:42 PM
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SubtletyRefuge posted...
he realistic heavy armour is back when people were slowly lugging and hiding behind shields and using battering rams and catapults, not sprinting and doing dodge rolls.
Full plate armor doesn't inhibit movement or dexterity all that much!

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Sackgurl
05/20/21 12:13:40 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Yeah I love how people make the silly "practicality" argument when it comes to Female Armor. It's like you're in a world with magic, zombies and maybe dragons and other cosmic horrors I think practical armor is the least of your concerns.

i feel like there's a difference between 'suspension of disbelief for supernatural narrative elements' and 'suspension of disbelief that physics doesn't apply here without any indication of supernatural elements being involved'

i think even the most insecure boy can suspend his sexist bullshit belief system enough to believe women are capable of wearing full plate

and i think when something is explicitly magic, people can overlook more easily. "this would be useless but a spell made it useful" doesn't feel like nonsense

but nobody can suspend their belief in 'how really basic physics works' enough to think that not covering bare skin is a more effective defense than covering it

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Tenlaar
05/20/21 12:14:39 PM
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I think it's only a problem when it's inconsistent. If there are also dudes who's "armor" consist of midriff shirts with one shoulder pad and stuff like that, whatever, have fun with your silly nonsensical armors. That's actually a stylistic choice for the world. But when all of the men are wearing practical, well designed armor and the women are running around in floppy titty armor it's blatantly obvious what's going on.
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ZevLoveDOOM
05/20/21 12:15:30 PM
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Prestoff
05/20/21 12:22:05 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
I think it's only a problem when it's inconsistent. If there are also dudes who's "armor" consist of midriff shirts with one shoulder pad and stuff like that, whatever, have fun with your silly nonsensical armors. That's actually a stylistic choice for the world. But when all of the men are wearing practical, well designed armor and the women are running around in floppy titty armor it's blatantly obvious what's going on.

Im kind of in this camp. A lot of korean shooting games go this route where the guys are wearing practical military uniform while the woman are wearing short shorts and bikini tops. Either sexualize both genders or dont do it at all imo.

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PiOverlord
05/21/21 8:22:27 AM
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SubtletyRefuge posted...
Lol, it's been a while since I read a Sandra and Woo panel. I think I stopped a little after the 1000's.

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Machete
05/21/21 8:23:54 AM
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SubtletyRefuge posted...

I'd genuinely love to see a vid of someone in full plate armour doing backflips and dodge rolls XD


My Skyrim character suplexes in full plate armor. Probably has something to do with the cat tail though.
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DuneMan
05/21/21 9:08:19 AM
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SubtletyRefuge posted...
I'd genuinely love to see a vid of someone in full plate armour doing backflips and dodge rolls XD
Ask and ye shall receive; just excuse the Dark Souls style fat rolling, because armor plates are plates at the end of the day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc

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