Current Events > Those motherfuckers are really charging full price for Pokemon remasters.

(+) Yeah! (+)

At least Pokemon on the Gamecube actually looked like a console game. These look like some cheap mobile cashgrab.

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Meh, I just preordered the double pack, because I hate myself.

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Conflict posted...

Also I don't think there's ever been a Pokemon game in history that was 40 hours long

First time I played Platinum, it took me about 300 hours to get all gold symbols, excluding the research that went into it
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Good thing I dont pay for my switch games lol

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Error1355 posted...

Meh, I just preordered the double pack, because I hate myself.

Again proving you have too much disposable income. I told you to fix that by buying me a 3080.

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DespondentDeity posted...

Ill just be over here counting all the money Ive saved not buying Pokmon games as a grown fucking adult tbh

Less than $500?

There are eight generations, if you (didn't) pay $60 for a game each generation that's $480.

If you also brought the 3rd versions and sequels....

Red/Blue
Yellow
Gold/Silver
Crystal
Ruby/Sapphire
Emerald
FireRed/LeafGreen
Diamond/Pearl
Platinum
Black/White
Black2/White2
HeartGold/SoulSilver
X/Y
OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire
Sun/Moon
UltraSun/UltraMoon
Sword/Shield

$1020 if you (didn't) pay $60 each. Of course until Sword and Shield the price was really just $40 so... x16 that's $640 + $60 for Sw/Sh for $700.

Which hey, you could pay a bill with that, but that's about it.

(This ignores the fact that your parents would have paid for most of these instead of your own money)

Granted if you're the type to always buy both versions this price gets a lot higher.

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Did Nintendo not ever charge full price for their remakes?

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Also Conflict's 40 hour long comment...

Some of the older Pokemon games (G/S/C to about... Black2/White 2?) have a nice postgame that can easily get you above 40 hours.

It's just a shame Gamefreak started being slack about it after X/Y.


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Umbreon posted...

Less than $500?

yeh it didnt take that long to count for sure, but it was just a shitpost to begin with

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I dont see how any other video game company would not be charging similar prices.

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masticatingman posted...

I dont see how any other video game company would not be charging similar prices.

I mean, literal EA is only charging $80 Canadian for a remaster of three full-fledged games. Atlus is only charging $65 for a remaster of a PS2 game. MSRP is literally just that - a suggestion. I've seen anywhere from $55 to $90 for brand new video games. They don't have to charge $80.

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jsb0714 posted...

Yet you come to this board because...? I know if I have no interest in a system I'm always on their message boards posting shit.

And @jsb0714 was never heard from again.

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Alucard188 posted...

I mean, literal EA is only charging $80 Canadian for a remaster of three full-fledged games. Atlus is only charging $65 for a remaster of a PS2 game. MSRP is literally just that - a suggestion. I've seen anywhere from $55 to $90 for brand new video games. They don't have to charge $80.

Atlus did an upres, Bioware did some lighting changes and some model changes. Those games are ports. This is an actual built from the ground up remake of a 2d video game. I don't think it's really honest or fair to compare this to those. These remakes will assuredly have new content as well. The remakes always do.


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ME Legendary edition is a remaster not a port.

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Blue_Inigo posted...

Atlus did an upres, Bioware did some lighting changes and some model changes. Those games are ports. This is an actual built from the ground up remake of a 2d video game. I don't think it's really honest or fair to compare this to those. These remakes will assuredly have new content as well. The remakes always do.

Hey guess what Activision did that multiple times now and only charged $40 for 2-3 games in each package

this shit only gets excused because its Pokmon and Nintendo and drones will slurp it up regardless

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People not knowing the difference between remake and remaster again.

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spikethedevil posted...

People not knowing the difference between remake and remaster again.

After looking back youre right. For some reason I was under the impression they didnt use the direct source code for THPS and Crash

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Honestly, my main problem is that they're still releasing 2 versions of every pokemon game instead of just putting all pokemon in one game. You could maybe argue that it was fine for the original games because there was a limit on how much data could fit on one cartridge. But now? No reason for it besides greed.

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The remake/remaster thing is irrelevant.

Yes, these are technically remakes, however there's literally no reason these should cost double or close-to-double the original price, especially when you factor in that significantly less work will have gone in to these than the originals.

ORAS were $39.99 USD, and that was what, $10 more than they originally cost on the GBA?
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Bio1590 posted...

The remake/remaster thing is irrelevant.

Yes, these are technically remakes, however there's literally no reason these should cost double or close-to-double the original price, especially when you factor in that significantly less work will have gone in to these than the originals.

ORAS were $39.99 USD, and that was what, $10 more than they originally cost on the GBA?

TC is from Canada. Please read all the posts @Bio1590


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NoxObscuras posted...

Honestly, my main problem is that they're still releasing 2 versions of every pokemon game instead of just putting all pokemon in one game. You could maybe argue that it was fine for the original games because there was a limit on how much data could fit on one cartridge. But now? No reason for it besides greed.

It's obviously greed, and since people didn't protest this anti consumer nonsense in earlier games it's here to stay.

However since were going into that territory

Skyward Sword HD, which is the bare minimum of a remaster of that game, is going to retail $10 higher than the original title did

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WingsOfGood posted...

Since when did games cost $80?

Switch games are $60.

These prices must be in CAD.

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DezDroppedFreak posted...

However since were going into that territory

Skyward Sword HD, which is the bare minimum of a remaster of that game, is going to retail $10 higher than the original title did

Yeah, but it seems Zelda Skyward Sword HD remaster has turned out a bit worse than these Diamond and Pearl remakes so far though. Locking a good quality of life teleport feature behind a overpriced Zelda amiibo($25) that was so limited in supply that scalpers brought up almost all of the stock immediately is only the beginning of that game's shortcomings.

spikethedevil posted...

TC is from Canada. Please read all the posts

The "remakes" are being sold for $60 in the US, while DS games sold for $30-$40 (though typically only SE games hit that $40 point).

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spikethedevil posted...

TC is from Canada. Please read all the posts @Bio1590

I know, I am as well.

Diamond/Pearl were, I believe, $29.99 or $34.99 USD when they were originally released. At $60 USD each for the remakes they are double or near-double the price.

Meanwhile ORAS were only $39.99 USD on release while I'm pretty sure RSE were $29.99 USD.

In Canada they are absolutely at least double the price that DP were on release here.
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The problem isn't just this. It's a series of shitty moves that other companies, who are known to be shit too, don't even fuck around with.

They literally gave us 3 games in an emulator for $50, without going the extra mile and just including Galaxy 2 as well. They also limited it for some dumb ass reason. If not Galaxy 2, then it could have used so much improvement instead. We got neither.

They're charging $60 for Skyward Sword, with fast teleport locked behind a fucking $25 figure you can't even buy it. Who the fuck locks that shit behind a $25 figure? Seriously? You can't throw a fucking bone with QoL?

TP and WW were $50, and for an extra $10, you got a nice ass Ganonforf figure or Wolf Link Amiibo included.

Pokemon D/P was $40 and this shit that barely looks to have much beyond SW/SH battles, is $60. Which I'll admit, isn't that bad. But it's not looking good for the future when we're getting shit like this and Nintendo itself has always been shitty about this.

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archedsoul posted...

They literally gave us 3 games in an emulator for $50, without going the extra mile and just including Galaxy 2 as well. They also limited it for some dumb ass reason. If not Galaxy 2, then it could have used so much improvement instead. We got neither.

Wrong.

They charged $60

Conflict posted...

Also I don't think there's ever been a Pokemon game in history that was 40 hours long

is this a joke

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Games have no business getting more expensive tbh. DLC, microtransactions and a larger amount of people gaming should have been enough to lower prices.

This is why I always buy them second hand, on a discount or not pay for them.
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Lmao fucking greedy Nintendo. Good thing pokemon is shit otherwise this might affect me

BLAKUboy posted...

The "remakes" are being sold for $60 in the US, while DS games sold for $30-$40 (though typically only SE games hit that $40 point).

Not sure if you realize that the prices for those are for the handhelds and were the standard price at the time. The current standard price for switch games is 60.

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LightHawKnight posted...

Not sure if you realize that the prices for those are for the handhelds and were the standard price at the time. The current standard price for switch games is 60.

That's not a defense, that's an excuse lol
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Bio1590 posted...

That's not a defense, that's an excuse lol

What excuse? Literally standard game price for the system. Do people expect a remake of a NES game to cost the same price as a NES game?

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DezDroppedFreak posted...

Hope Nintendo sees this bro

For what it's worth, I don't like corporate nut-hugging either. I just find these complaints to be stupid.

Games have always cost a lot of money in Australia, Platinum was the first Pokemon game I got on release and it was $60. Every flagship Nintendo title on the DS cost around $60, though games like Nintendogs and New Super Mario Bros dropped in price over time.

Same with every remake. You had to pay out the ass for a copy of HeartGold/SoulSilver when it came out. Idk how much OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire cost, but I'm gonna guess it cost as much as a full AAA title on the 3DS, which was probably expensive.

I'll admit that I'm concerned about how the game looks in comparison to other remakes, but the fact remains that they are remakes, the games they're remaking are some of the beefiest Pokemon games up to this point - even Emerald didn't have a whole lot of fat to it, except postgame content like the Regis, whereas Platinum took fucking FOREVER to finish - and they're on a home console now by virtue of the Switch blurring the line between handheld and console, meaning Nintendo are going to lean into console prices. It also makes sense that the price point would follow SwSh, the generation in which the DS remakes are coming out.

I'm gonna wait for the reviews, considering these games are being developed by a mobile game publisher. But I don't think complaining about the price is that productive.

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It's 2021 and people are still surprised that Nintendo charges full price for everything they release?

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Gamefreak really has the audacity

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MrMallard posted...

For what it's worth, I don't like corporate nut-hugging either. I just find these complaints to be stupid.

Games have always cost a lot of money in Australia, Platinum was the first Pokemon game I got on release and it was $60. Every flagship Nintendo title on the DS cost around $60, though games like Nintendogs and New Super Mario Bros dropped in price over time.

Same with every remake. You had to pay out the ass for a copy of HeartGold/SoulSilver when it came out. Idk how much OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire cost, but I'm gonna guess it cost as much as a full AAA title on the 3DS, which was probably expensive.

I'll admit that I'm concerned about how the game looks in comparison to other remakes, but the fact remains that they are remakes, the games they're remaking are some of the beefiest Pokemon games up to this point - even Emerald didn't have a whole lot of fat to it, except postgame content like the Regis, whereas Platinum took fucking FOREVER to finish - and they're on a home console now by virtue of the Switch blurring the line between handheld and console, meaning Nintendo are going to lean into console prices. It also makes sense that the price point would follow SwSh, the generation in which the DS remakes are coming out.

I'm gonna wait for the reviews, considering these games are being developed by a mobile game publisher. But I don't think complaining about the price is that productive.

I don't think we're gonna see the same post game content we got in Pt on SDBP
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awesome999 posted...

I don't think we're gonna see the same post game content we got in Pt on SDBP

If ORAS is anything to go by with its omission of the Battle Frontier, I'd agree with you on that point. But I'm referring more to the main content. It took me a lot longer to finish Platinum than it took me to finish Emerald, and while I understand things were added to Platinum's story, it wasn't 20+ hours of content on top of D/P's content. I can hammer out an Emerald playthrough in 30 hours, Platinum took me roughly double the amount of time. Maybe more.

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LightHawKnight posted...

What excuse? Literally standard game price for the system. Do people expect a remake of a NES game to cost the same price as a NES game?

Except Nintendo is basically the only company taking "advantage" of this "standard game price" when it comes to remakes/remasters on its own console system.

The Crash/Spyro trilogy remakes will always stand out as the prime examples. Neither of those were full-price on the Switch either.

Actually hell Crash 4 is literally only $40 USD on the Switch. Activision easily could have justified a $60 price tag (matching the PS4/Xbone versions) to make up for lost margin because of the cost of the cartridge (and they're using a 16 GB one) but they just straight up didn't.
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So are they going to make Spyro 4 and crash 5m

Blue_Inigo posted...

https://howlongtobeat.com/game?id=7148

At the end of the day, these games are rpgs. They'll always take anywhere from 25-40 hours to get through.

The Gen 4 games were especially stuffed

Mostly because you walked like a constipated turtle in mud

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DarkRoast posted...

Mostly because you walked like a constipated turtle in mud

this comes off as if you never actually played gen 4 and misinterpreted other people's "too slow" criticism lmao

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4th gen was great. I just hope the remakes are good.
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Lazy ass remakes

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