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Evillink2000
06/04/21 1:18:07 AM
#302:


atmasabr posted...
Lightning? Hmmph.

lightning ran the board with an iron fist.

But something happened over the past two weeks or so. He got estranged from a lot of people. Including me (as far as I'm concerned). He's always challenging to get along with, but he used to be a complete professional on LAAG.

Then, he waded into it. He talks a little too much about "degenerate" this and "degenerate" that and it got to the point where it became obvious he did not like discussions about sex.

Which is fine, but there are times when lightning says mean and abrupt things when he disagrees with someone.
He was super fast to remove anything he disagreed with whether it was worthy of removal or not. That extends to the people as well.

And yes, his stance on degeneracy was archaic at best.
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Will_VIIII
06/04/21 1:19:16 AM
#303:


Lightning wanted a MAGA safe space and he banned me for calling out his hypocrisy.

Guess I could update my signature now lol

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Kakapo
06/04/21 1:19:49 AM
#304:




Holy shit is he for real?

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Machete
06/04/21 1:19:53 AM
#305:


Life Sympathy posted...
Tails being a leader makes it far worse on his suspension. All community boards are mandated to ensure no offensive content is being published on the boards they lead. For the most part, the official site staff is hands-off with how they enforce it and there is trust that they will do it without our supervision.

When a leader is posting the offensive content themselves let alone refusing to remove content from other posters, that tells me that it's clear they don't respect that stipulation in any fashion. On top of that, Tails has an established history of pulling shady crap like this. It's no secret that tails was incredibly phobic to a lot of communities and I guess this month being pride month was too much for him to not run his mouth.

For a community leader to blatantly screw around with a community board in that manner after being punished in the past for it, I will suspend as such and would gladly do it again.

I'm wondering why it took so fucking long between TaiIs and lightning but I can appreciate that things were resolved eventually. My feedback form was like a month ago. I guess you all were busy with other shit in the meantime and that's perfectly understandable because I'm a patient person in that regard... but I do understand how others are not so patient. It is what it is I guess... but the ends tend to justify the means and I am perfectly content with these ends, so

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Evillink2000
06/04/21 1:20:42 AM
#306:


According to Lightning himself he protected Tails in one way or another based on some promise he made. No idea what that actually meant though.
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BlackJackCat
06/04/21 1:21:18 AM
#307:


Evillink2000 posted...
He was super fast to remove anything he disagreed with whether it was worthy of removal or not. That extends to the people as well.

I got blacklisted for suggesting the only flattering thing about him was he was probably a gimmick poster lol

Not that I begrudge him that, but the way he always acted on other boards was so uptight it always seemed like he was just acting like an uptight prude to generate antagonistic posting. But I did get what I deserved probably lol

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CarrieChan
06/04/21 1:21:56 AM
#308:


Evillink2000 posted...
According to Lightning himself he protected Tails in one way or another based on some promise he made. No idea what that actually meant though.
Probably by no actioning anything that was marked against Tails.
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Will_VIIII
06/04/21 1:22:27 AM
#309:


Kakapo posted...


Holy shit is he for real?
Ok so I got modded for saying this about Gal so I'll preface that this isn't meant as an insult. It wasn't meant for one as Gal either but I didn't bother disputing it.

The guy is clearly unwell and I hope he gets the help he needs. I mean he's threatening to take action over his banning.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/04/21 1:22:47 AM
#310:


Machete posted...
Someone tell Conflict that his grievances in post 259 are being looked into. He is right in the case of 259 and steps are being taken in that regard...
@Conflict

I removed content that I don't believe is relevant to what he wants you to know.

Nevermind I'm late to this party.

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Umbreon
06/04/21 1:25:31 AM
#311:


Kakapo posted...


Holy shit is he for real?

He wasn't murdered for his beliefs so nah.

He probably is ass deep in that persecution complex for real though.

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Webmaster4531
06/04/21 1:26:20 AM
#312:


Stop harassing Tails82
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atmasabr
06/04/21 1:27:08 AM
#313:


BlackJackCat posted...
If you don't like your bubble being invaded, make it an actual bubble. And if you can't, go find your bubble. It's that simple. You guys on the MAGA board were egregiously dead set on using fake news to justify stupid takes, and you got called out for it. Regularly. If yall didn't like that you could have gone around that instead of doing it in a place that was open for virtually anyone to post. Kind of hard to feel sympathy there.

I was never on the MAGA board. I otherwise stand by what I said.

Life Sympathy posted...
Tails being a leader makes it far worse on his suspension. All community boards are mandated to ensure no offensive content is being published on the boards they lead. For the most part, the official site staff is hands-off with how they enforce it and there is trust that they will do it without our supervision.

When a leader is posting the offensive content themselves let alone refusing to remove content from other posters, that tells me that it's clear they don't respect that stipulation in any fashion. On top of that, Tails has an established history of pulling shady crap like this. It's no secret that tails was incredibly phobic to a lot of communities and I guess this month being pride month was too much for him to not run his mouth.

For a community leader to blatantly screw around with a community board in that manner after being punished in the past for it, I will suspend as such and would gladly do it again.

*Sigh.*

Sorry, but I really think you are only half right here. And I think you may be letting your personal views get in the way of best judgment. That is why I do not think the moderators should be commenting publicly on Tails's ban or past suspensions.

On this I will quote Rick Santorum on his interview on Chris Cuomo, where he says, and I'm paraphrasing

that there is a big difference between having disagreements on public policy on which there are complex ramifications and treating other people as "other" or lesser. And I think it's wrong to mix the two and say that that person is a bigot, that that person is hostile to other people, personally.

Which is the mistake that I think is made on Gamefaqs again and again, including with Tails, and especially on LGBT issues. And I think there has to be a point where people can say such dissents in good faith, somehow, some way. That will never happen when leaders on this website express glee at the banning and suspension of people. That will never happen when the leaders on this website egg on others who cheer the removal of other posters who maybe are a little socially out of place or who do not fit in.

Stop calling Tails phobic. He is conservative, extremely conservative, on just about every single social or social justice issue. That does not make him any more, or less, of a bigot than the people who are equally liberal on every social justice issue. That does not make him phobic. Okay? I'm gay myself, and while I definitely feel a great deal of tension toward Tails, who I obviously have interacted with for years, including because of the post in question, there are gradations, there are differences. And I think when we are eager to punish rather than understand, that's where we fall astray.

Tails's post in question reads differently when you read it forwards than when you read it backwards. When you read it backwards, it's sinister. When you read it forwards, it looks like it stops short of crossing the line but most people will say it's dog whistle.

So, I'm sorry I didn't take my own advice and leave the topic. But I hope you and the other moderators on this website take seriously what I have just said.

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Starks
06/04/21 1:27:08 AM
#314:


I'll always remember Tails for when I kicked his ass in the 261 mock board leader election
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atmasabr
06/04/21 1:27:30 AM
#315:


Starks posted...
I'll always remember Tails for when I kicked his ass in the 261 board leader election

Oh, please. He won that one.

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darkprince45
06/04/21 1:28:00 AM
#316:


Im sure he has 100 other accounts

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Will_VIIII
06/04/21 1:29:08 AM
#318:


atmasabr posted...
Oh, please. He won that one.
lol no he didn't

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Will_VIIII
06/04/21 1:29:24 AM
#319:


Conflict posted...
With how much this dude is riding Tails' nutsack you'd think he was a Tails alt himself
He's not much better

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Bio1590
06/04/21 1:30:06 AM
#320:


Conflict posted...
With how much this dude is riding Tails' nutsack you'd think he was a Tails alt himself

Is he actually not?

Like I think it's actually worse if he isn't at this point.
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Lokison
06/04/21 1:30:07 AM
#321:


atmasabr posted...
Oh, please. He won that one.
I see you're in line for the next wave. Good luck to you.

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Sir Will
06/04/21 1:30:32 AM
#322:


Conflict posted...
Good riddance.


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BlackJackCat
06/04/21 1:32:14 AM
#323:


atmasabr posted...
I was never on the MAGA board. I otherwise stand by what I said

Fair. I just want you to understand that when you're in a place where anyone can show up, you kind of don't get a right to bitch about the crowd gawking and laughing at you when you put on what was essentially a political comedy routine. Especially when the rules of what specifically was considered on or off topic was vague as all hell. Same applied to Life as a Gamer honestly, because any reasonable person could see nothing there was done in good faith. Only difference is that the ownership of that board actually took steps to make it a safe space.

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Valjackal
06/04/21 1:33:04 AM
#324:


atmasabr posted...
Stop calling Tails phobic. He is conservative, extremely conservative, on just about every single social or social justice issue. That does not make him any more, or less, of a bigot than the people who are equally liberal on every social justice issue. That does not make him phobic. Okay? I'm gay myself, and while I definitely feel a great deal of tension toward Tails, who I obviously have interacted with for years, including because of the post in question, there are gradations, there are differences. And I think when we are eager to punish rather than understand, that's where we fall astray.

He compared you and other LGBT people to pedophiles in terms of morality. In what world is that not phobic?

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Lokison
06/04/21 1:34:38 AM
#325:


Legendary 500 post topic. Wonder if we'll get a second one.

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lorddrakath1522
06/04/21 1:37:52 AM
#326:


Valjackal posted...
He compared you and other LGBT people to pedophiles in terms of morality. In what world is that not phobic?

His, i guess?

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atmasabr
06/04/21 1:40:05 AM
#327:


Valjackal posted...
He compared you and

You can leave me out of it--I believe it is alleged Tails once got banned for gaslighting, and I think you're doing the same here.

But I have already conceded that the post reads as sinister. Accept that.

[Edit:]

[He's going to object that you introduced yourself into it first, atmasabr]
--You can leave me out of what Tails says about me. (Happy now, conscience?)

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Life Sympathy
06/04/21 1:47:38 AM
#328:


atmasabr posted...
*Sigh.*

There is no room for confusion on this matter. The site policy is very clearly stated on this matter:

  1. No offensive content may be posted on community boards: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/help?id=84
  2. The Offensive rule clearly and explicitly states that hate speech is forbidden: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/features/board_rules


Not only did he explicitly post hate speech in regards to LGBTQ+, he did so in an underhanded way attempting to bypass site staff and knowingly that what he was doing was against rules out of experience. It does not matter what my beliefs are, he broke the rules of the site and he was given the appropriate action. That's all there is to it.

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DeadBankerDream
06/04/21 1:59:04 AM
#329:


Dang, took a quick sniff at the reddit and the first thing I see there is Tails shitting his bed about being banned simply because the mods defend gay people from his explicit homophobia that I won't repost here. So unfair to him.

Also, who runs that reddit? I don't check it often, but I've never seen blatant hate speech on there before.

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Bio1590
06/04/21 2:01:53 AM
#330:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Dang, took a quick sniff at the reddit and the first thing I see there is Tails shitting his bed about being banned simply because the mods defend gay people from his explicit homophobia that I won't repost here. So unfair to him.

Also, who runs that reddit? I don't check it often, but I've never seen blatant hate speech on there before.

Muffin.

Who was usermap axed on here last year after he developed a really weird obsession with Error's dick.

And now he has like 50 different alts.
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Evillink2000
06/04/21 2:03:42 AM
#331:


I expected more on the reddit post. Maybe he's still typing it up.
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Machete
06/04/21 2:04:36 AM
#332:


Just an FYI to all all regular users and mods alike... If you can view the posting history of that atma user, please do so... Thanks in advance. we aren't done yet.

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Lokison
06/04/21 2:08:10 AM
#333:


Machete posted...
Just an FYI to all all regular users and mods alike... If you can view the posting history of that atma user, please do so... Thanks in advance. we aren't done yet.
100% agree.

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Trumble
06/04/21 2:10:24 AM
#334:


The game.

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Lokison
06/04/21 2:14:02 AM
#335:


Trumble posted...
The game.
Mofo saw an opportunity and took it.

Still, why?

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atmasabr
06/04/21 2:17:15 AM
#336:


Life Sympathy posted...
It does not matter what my beliefs are, he broke the rules of the site and he was given the appropriate action. That's all there is to it.

Then.

My suggestion to you and other leaders on this website is that in the future your posts about others on this website stick to the facts, rather than your personal interpretation and opinions of those facts.

Stop calling other posters "phobic". This and other disparaging statements (and there are others in this topic, I know) not are statements about the poster's actions, but their character. And that reflects poorly upon you as a leader on this website who is charged with "it does not matter what my beliefs are." When you express a belief about a poster's motivation or character, that runs right in the face of saying "there is no room for confusion, these are the site rules, that is all there is to it."

Your post just now is perfect, Life Sympathy. Don't compromise it with disparaging, opinionated, judgmental statements on matters that could go either way.

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Slayer_22
06/04/21 2:19:38 AM
#337:


Machete posted...


from where? the subreddit? you believe shit from that sewage plant and you're already buried and irredeemable. Tell me you get your info elsewhere...

No, I don't touch any subreddits related to GameFAQs.

But I do got sources. And I'm pretty disgusted from what I've seen.
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DarthAragorn
06/04/21 2:21:28 AM
#338:


atmasabr posted...
Then.

My suggestion to you and other leaders on this website is that in the future your posts about others on this website stick to the facts, rather than your personal interpretation and opinions of those facts.

Stop calling other posters "phobic". This and other disparaging statements (and there are others in this topic, I know) not are statements about the poster's actions, but their character. And that reflects poorly upon you as a leader on this website who is charged with "it does not matter what my beliefs are." When you express a belief about a poster's motivation or character, that runs right in the face of saying "there is no room for confusion, these are the site rules, that is all there is to it."

Your post just now is perfect, Life Sympathy. Don't compromise it with disparaging, opinionated, judgmental statements on matters that could go either way.
Facts? Facts are your buddy Tails was transphobic and homophobic as fuck with the posts he was making, and that's why his accounts got nuked.

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Machete
06/04/21 2:23:34 AM
#339:


Slayer_22 posted...
No, I don't touch any subreddits related to GameFAQs.

But I do got sources. And I'm pretty disgusted from what I've seen.

you're pretty fucking cheeky aren't you? ;)

No... you visit a lot of subreddits. No, you aren't disgusted by anything. You're a typical problematic-posting user and you have issues with me for reasons that will reflect far worse on you than they will me or anyone else. Go away and disappear or it will happen to you without your consent like it did for so many other similar shitposting enthusiasts today. Goodbye. The next time I see you, you won't know about it...


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Lokison
06/04/21 2:24:12 AM
#340:


atmasabr posted...
Then.

My suggestion to you and other leaders on this website is that in the future your posts about others on this website stick to the facts, rather than your personal interpretation and opinions of those facts.

Stop calling other posters "phobic". This and other disparaging statements (and there are others in this topic, I know) not are statements about the poster's actions, but their character. And that reflects poorly upon you as a leader on this website who is charged with "it does not matter what my beliefs are." When you express a belief about a poster's motivation or character, that runs right in the face of saying "there is no room for confusion, these are the site rules, that is all there is to it."

Your post just now is perfect, Life Sympathy. Don't compromise it with disparaging, opinionated, judgmental statements on matters that could go either way.
So just because they're a moderator, they arent allowed to voice their own opinion; or speak on their message boards? Because they've been given some responsibility, they arent allowed to have fun and be honest?

You sounds so damn ignorant.

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Evillink2000
06/04/21 2:27:14 AM
#341:


atmasabr posted...
Then.

My suggestion to you and other leaders on this website is that in the future your posts about others on this website stick to the facts, rather than your personal interpretation and opinions of those facts.

Stop calling other posters "phobic". This and other disparaging statements (and there are others in this topic, I know) not are statements about the poster's actions, but their character. And that reflects poorly upon you as a leader on this website who is charged with "it does not matter what my beliefs are." When you express a belief about a poster's motivation or character, that runs right in the face of saying "there is no room for confusion, these are the site rules, that is all there is to it."

Your post just now is perfect, Life Sympathy. Don't compromise it with disparaging, opinionated, judgmental statements on matters that could go either way.
His posts were his actions, and therefore calling him phobic applies. I don't understand why you are having problems with this.
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Machete
06/04/21 2:29:00 AM
#342:


Evillink2000 posted...
His posts were his actions, and therefore calling him phobic applies. I don't understand why you are having problems with this.

That user has problems with LITERALLY EVERYTHING


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BlackJackCat
06/04/21 2:29:18 AM
#343:


atmasabr posted...
Stop calling other posters "phobic".

What kills me about this is that this isn't a one off event. There is a pattern here. At what point does it stop being a misunderstanding and a part of someones character? I get you want to see the better side because you know him better and all, but we're not seeing the context in the light you're seeing it, and as far as I have gathered this is shit he's done repeatedly and been punished for. He knew what he was doing and could foresee the consequences. It's really hard to give the benefit of the doubt when it was already given plenty of times before.

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MrToothHasYou
06/04/21 2:30:02 AM
#344:


atmasabr posted...
On this I will quote Rick Santorum
LMFAO

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Slayer_22
06/04/21 2:30:06 AM
#345:


Machete posted...


you're pretty fucking cheeky aren't you? ;)

No... you visit a lot of subreddits. No, you aren't disgusted by anything. You're a typical problematic-posting user and you have issues with me for reasons that will reflect far worse on you than they will me or anyone else. Go away and disappear or it will happen to you without your consent like it did for so many other similar shitposting enthusiasts today. Goodbye. The next time I see you, you won't know about it...


...what the fuck? I visit a lot of subreddits, yes. Mostly for mobile games as I play a ton of gacha, but no, never GameFAQs subs. My reddit name is the same as my name on here, and everywhere else for that matter.

You didn't even RECOGNIZE me a few topics ago. You are talking out your ass and being incredibly toxic.

My issues are stuff I really don't want to list(I certainly don't wish to be modded), but the fact that you are so defensive about stuff I haven't even mentioned and have went from 'I don't recognize you' to you suddenly knowing who I am...lol, what a joke. Get help.
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nothanks1
06/04/21 2:30:28 AM
#346:


Like I said alts
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Evillink2000
06/04/21 2:30:33 AM
#347:


Machete posted...
That user has problems with LITERALLY EVERYTHING
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Lokison
06/04/21 2:32:40 AM
#348:


@Machete remember that time you got warned for threatening someone? It sounds a lot like that's where your going now. Dont be the next fallen soldier.

Edit: I know you're not threatening anyone, but other may no realize that.

Edit 2: warned, not banned. My bad, the word banned is stuck in my brain.

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Life Sympathy
06/04/21 2:32:53 AM
#349:


Would you prefer if I created an alternative account and post it then? Have other users corroborate it for me as I'm sure they would be more than happy to do so without me being present at all. He's demonstrated exactly the kind of person he is time and time again and from the looks of it, doing so after the fact this very minute elsewhere.

I call it like I see it. The day he genuinely stops spewing hate speech towards LGBTQ+ in acceptance of them in good faith is the day I stop calling him out on his phobic behavior and mindset (assuming that I give any attention to the matter afterwards beyond this). How that impacts your impression in particular of me really isn't a concern of mine. The bottom line at the end of the day was that I removed hate speech from this site.

Oh many people posted while I was typing. Oh well, it should be obvious to whom I was replying to.

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Machete
06/04/21 2:34:14 AM
#351:


Lokison posted...
you got banned

no I didn't, try again.

Seriously, tread carefully. I don't like false accusations.

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Slayer_22
06/04/21 2:35:05 AM
#352:


Lokison posted...
@Machete remember that time you got banned for threatening someone? It sounds a lot like that's where your going now. Dont be the next fallen soldier.

Edit: I know you're not threatening anyone, but other may no realize that.

Dude, he is 100% threatening me. And it's so fucking creepy.

Machete posted...


"waaaaahhhh dude you were done ages ago. I've dealt with C-rank trolls constantly and no one better than that and you aren't even close. Fuck off and close your account... you have nothing worth even acknowledging. Go buy a popsickle from a local ice cream vendor or some shit.

Lol, what a joke. I obviously hit a nerve.
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