Current Events > 18 y/o Kid was BANNED from wearing his $600 SNEAKERS to GRADUATION!!

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This is probably a dress code thats enforced on everybody. Why is he supposed to be special?

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I mean, I would have let it go but some people are a stickler for the rules to a fault
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Imagine being stupid enough to buy $600 sneakers.

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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

If you think dress codes are never racist or sexist, enjoy the river of Denial.

Well damn, theres about 15 restaurants/bars/clubs in the northern Virginia area that are racist or sexist as fuck then.

Ive had it all, hats pants shoes shirts and so forth. I should have gotten my 15 minutes of fame then after all of the times Ive been said no because of a dress code

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pogo_rabid posted...

Brad Hall is my fucking dude

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radical rhino posted...

Imagine being stupid enough to buy $600 sneakers.

Imagine caring so much about how others spend their money

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SF_Okami posted...

Brad Hall is my fucking dude

Brad Hall is a straight up pimp

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LightHawKnight posted...

Nah. Its a formal event. Dress code required.

This is the problem is people are simply too lazy to do whats right. Dont want to be bothered. There are poor people that cant even afford nice clothes.

They shouldnt be able to walk because of a code? Theres no benefit. Its all just authoritarian bullshit.

Glob posted...

That's kind of how life works though. We all get told what to do, whether we like it or not.

Maybe I'm just coming at it from a different perspective, as all schools have uniforms in this country. Also, we don't make a big deal out of graduation until you get a degree. Even then, it's for the parents more than the students.

I dont know about you but I dont get told what to do. I have a boss but he doesnt tell me what to do. He trusts Im smart enough to do the job and I just do it.

Life doesnt have to be like that. Whether its work or graduation. People should have choices. Were not robots or mindless drones.

Exactly what you just said though. Its for the parents right? So were all aware that this isnt in the best interest of the student at all? That is the issue. Were too busy catering to people that are honestly irrelevant to the process.

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MrDrMan posted...

This is the problem is people are simply too lazy to do whats right. Dont want to be bothered. There are poor people that cant even afford nice clothes.

They shouldnt be able to walk because of a code? Theres no benefit. Its all just authoritarian bullshit.

I dont know about you but I dont get told what to do. I have a boss but he doesnt tell me what to do. He trusts Im smart enough to do the job and I just do it.

Life doesnt have to be like that. Whether its work or graduation. People should have choices. Were not robots or mindless drones.

Dress clothing does not need to be super expensive. My family is poor. I had the free lunch, which then was changed to reduced price lunch as I got to high school. My parents were still able to get me cheap ass formal clothing, cause it was necessary. Not just for graduation, but for funerals, weddings, etc. Sure they were old and my mother had to buy a little larger and then stitch them a bit to make them smaller so she could undo it to make them larger as needed. Dress code for formal occasions isn't something horrible. Sure forcing a school uniform is stupid and a waste of money, but dress clothing for a formal event? No.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Well damn, theres about 15 restaurants/bars/clubs in the northern Virginia area that are racist or sexist as fuck then.

Ive had it all, hats pants shoes shirts and so forth. I should have gotten my 15 minutes of fame then after all of the times Ive been said no because of a dress code

There is no benefit to a dress code outside of work.


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LightHawKnight posted...

Dress clothing does not need to be super expensive. My family is poor. I had the free lunch, which then was changed to reduced price lunch as I got to high school. My parents were still able to get me cheap ass formal clothing, cause it was necessary. Not just for graduation, but for funerals, weddings, etc. Sure they were old and my mother had to buy a little larger and then stitch them a bit to make them smaller so she could undo it to make them larger as needed. Dress code for formal occasions isn't something horrible. Sure forcing a school uniform is stupid and a waste of money, but dress clothing for a formal event? No.

Its not necessary at all. We could burn every suit, tie, and tuxedo on the planet and the world would keep moving. Only necessary if you care about appeasing to everyone else which shouldnt be mandatory.

Let me put this into a gamers perspective. Imagine if you could not access endgame content without buying a battle pass. Youve done the work and everything required but you simply cant access the reward because of a paywall. That is what a dress code is. It accomplishes nothing. Actually puts stress on lower income families that may not have the money.

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MrDrMan posted...

Its not necessary at all. We could burn every suit, tie, and tuxedo on the planet and the world would keep moving.

Only necessary if you care about appeasing to everyone else which shouldnt be mandatory.

Nothing is necessary, so destroy everything then.

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LightHawKnight posted...

Nothing is necessary, so destroy everything then.

Youre being dense at this point so Im done. Still have yet to provide me with any type of benefit provided.

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MrDrMan posted...

Youre being dense at this point so Im done. Still have yet to provide me with any type of benefit provided.

You are the one bitching about formal wear for formal events when most if not all cultures has some sort of formal wear for formal events.

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I go to the damn discount section to look for shoes, 60 bucks is too pricy for me!!!!

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Cheater87 posted...

60 bucks is too pricy for me!!!!

durability > price.

i prefer the costco tennis shoes. paid 25$ the shoes last at least 6 month's possibly more (sticking with the fila brand extends the life).

if anyone asks why. they just last that long i don't control my shoes lifespan.
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MrDrMan posted...

There are poor people that cant even afford nice clothes.

People always throw this out there but you have things in place for kids like that. It's a disingenuous argument anyway, when this kid's trainers were probably some of the most expensive footwear there.

MrDrMan posted...

I dont know about you but I dont get told what to do. I have a boss but he doesnt tell me what to do. He trusts Im smart enough to do the job and I just do it.

Life doesnt have to be like that. Whether its work or graduation. People should have choices. Were not robots or mindless drones

Unless you live completely cut off from society, you get told what to do. Laws, societal pressure and all manner of other things tell you how to behave, and odds are that for the most part you do as you're told, just like most other people do.

MrDrMan posted...

Exactly what you just said though. Its for the parents right? So were all aware that this isnt in the best interest of the student at all? That is the issue. Were too busy catering to people that are honestly irrelevant to the process.

I wouldn't say parents are irrelevant to the process. They're arguably the most influential people in the process. But yeah, graduation ceremonies in general aren't all that IMO. I did the one for my first degree but didn't bother for my second or third.

LightHawKnight posted...

You are the one bitching about formal wear for formal events when most if not all cultures has some sort of formal wear for formal events.

Who cares? My point is just because everyone does it doesnt make it right. If thats the only justification then you have no justification. Everyone used to think the world was flat and they were wrong.

Glob posted...

People always throw this out there but you have things in place for kids like that. It's a disingenuous argument anyway, when this kid's trainers were probably some of the most expensive footwear there.

Unless you live completely cut off from society, you get told what to do. Laws, societal pressure and all manner of other things tell you how to behave, and odds are that for the most part you do as you're told, just like most other people do.

I wouldn't say parents are irrelevant to the process. They're arguably the most influential people in the process. But yeah, graduation ceremonies in general aren't all that IMO. I did the one for my first degree but didn't bother for my second or third.

Its not disingenuous at all. You are right. It affects a very small portion of kids. Enforcing a dress code helps NO ONE though. It is a net negative.

I dont give a shit about societal pressure. I do what I want because nobody has to live with the consequences but me. Why would I care about everyone else?

As far as the law thats not the same at all. Its not perfect but most laws do provide some sort of benefit whether its protection of life or property or whatever. Dress code does not do this.

You guys still cant come up with one reason we need a dress code besides your parents and school telling you so. Newsflash you can make your own choices! If you dont hurt or risk anybody else in the process you can do almost anything you want.

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MrDrMan posted...

Enforcing a dress code helps NO ONE though.

This is not true.

Dress codes and uniforms do have advantages such as promoting a sense of community and belonging within a school (particularly important to a number of demographics who can be most at risk of not succeeding in education) and helping to reduce bullying of poorer children by their more affluent peers (though it doesn't eliminate it).

Whether or not those things are worth sacrificing the freedoms you have without a uniform or dress code is a judgement call, but it works in exactly the same way as laws. You sacrifice freedoms in order to gain advantages. That's how society works.

Yeah, I couldn't have been less surprised when I scrolled down and saw it was a black kid.

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*looks up Alexander McQueen sneakers*

Mofos dont even look worth $60, let alone $600
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mustachedmystic posted...

Yeah, I couldn't have been less surprised when I scrolled down and saw it was a black kid.

I mean its duckbear, his whole shtick is sensationalizing shit and going for clicks

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YugiNoob posted...

I mean its duckbear, his whole shtick is sensationalizing shit and going for clicks

It has nothing to do with Duckbear, and everything to do with people who need to enforce every law, regulation, and code against every black person they see.

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SF_Okami posted...

What a fucking stupid rule. As long as they are not outrageous, let the dude wear what he wants. Fuck that school. I wore Yeezy Powerphases for my walk.

and the most I paid for one of my sneakers was $730. A pair of Golden Gooses that were totally worth the money.

Good point, at least this guy wasnt wearing that level of trash

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mustachedmystic posted...

It has nothing to do with Duckbear, and everything to do with people who need to enforce every law, regulation, and code against every black person they see.

You must be new to duckbear topics

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So the fact that they were $600 sneakers had nothing to do with the fact that he wasn't allowed to be wearing them. It was that they were sneakers, and they were supposed to be dress shoes.

Glob posted...

This is not true.

Dress codes and uniforms do have advantages such as promoting a sense of community and belonging within a school (particularly important to a number of demographics who can be most at risk of not succeeding in education) and helping to reduce bullying of poorer children by their more affluent peers (though it doesn't eliminate it).

Whether or not those things are worth sacrificing the freedoms you have without a uniform or dress code is a judgement call, but it works in exactly the same way as laws. You sacrifice freedoms in order to gain advantages. That's how society works.

No disrespect but everything you just said is bullshit. Sense of community and company culture and terms like that is all baseless bullshit that people in authority push onto us just to retain power.

Think about this. What tangible benefit do you get from a sense of community? Nothing. I can sit here and point and see in real time though how there is tangible evidence of this affecting this kid.

You cant force someone to join a community they do not wish to. Thats why making rules for a sense of community is bullshit. You cant force interaction. Name one thriving community that people are in without choice.

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MrDrMan posted...

No disrespect but everything you just said is bulls***.

I work in schools and it very clearly isn't. However, if you don't actually want to have a conversation about it, you should have just said so.

It's one thing to claim that the benefits are less significant than the drawbacks, but to claim that there are no benefits shows that you just don't know what you're talking about.

Glob posted...

I work in schools and it very clearly isn't. However, if you don't actually want to have a conversation about it, you should have just said so.

It's one thing to claim that the benefits are less significant than the drawbacks, but to claim that there are no benefits shows that you just don't know what you're talking about.

Couldnt care less if you work in schools. I went to schools with and without uniforms. I was one of those kids youre talking about.

Dude. Youre pulling regurgitated cookie cutter HR responses along and trying to act as if its original thought. A sense of community? Come on. Ill give you that poor kids cant be bullied for what they wear. Thats negated by the fact that they can be pulled from graduation for not having access to nice clothes though. Also, you were just talking about how the whole poor kid argument is disingenuous so lets not use that now.

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MrDrMan posted...

Couldnt care less if you work in schools.

Then your opinion is worthless.

MrDrMan posted...

I went to schools with and without uniforms.

You disregard my experiences then pull out something even more anecdotal.

MrDrMan posted...

Youre pulling regurgitated cookie cutter HR responses along and trying to act as if its original thought

Original thought? I didn't say or imply anything of the sort. You seem to be claiming that just because somebody in a position of authority has said it before, it must be wrong.

MrDrMan posted...

A sense of community? Come on.

That's a really important aspect of a number of the schools I have worked in.

MrDrMan posted...

Ill give you that poor kids cant be bullied for what they wear.

That's about the only sensible thing you've said so far.

MrDrMan posted...

Thats negated by the fact that they can be pulled from graduation for not having access to nice clothes though.

Only if that can actually happen. It didn't happen in this case and it shouldn't happen at all. Firstly, high school graduation seems ridiculous, but I'll accept that it's probably more important to you if you've grown up in a culture that has it. Secondly, as I stated several posts back, any uniform or dress code should be backed up by financial support for those that need it. The school where I work now has a uniform and some of the parents can't afford it, so we give it to them. Simple as fuck.

MrDrMan posted...

Also, you were just talking about how the whole poor kid argument is disingenuous so lets not use that now.

I said that it was disingenuous for you to use it when referring to a kid wearing (probably) the most expensive footwear there, as you can't claim he had the wrong shoes because of finances. That has no impact on the points that I've made.

That's a really important aspect of a number of the schools I have worked in.

How? I keep saying give me a tangible benefit. Give me a real example and you keep giving me these vague responses.

Youre using a lot of words to effectively say nothing.

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Always find it weird how angry people get about dress codes. The loafers looked way worse than the sneakers though lol

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"Screw the rules. I have money."

"No. Life doesn't work that way."

"Terrible school! Shallow values! Racially motivated!"

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MrDrMan posted...

That's a really important aspect of a number of the schools I have worked in.

How? I keep saying give me a tangible benefit. Give me a real example and you keep giving me these vague responses.

Youre using a lot of words to effectively say nothing.

No, I'm just not saying what you want me to.

The reason I haven't been specific is because it's already pretty well documented what the positive effects of a uniform are, but seeing as you're being deliberately ignorant about it, one if the schools I worked in introduced a uniform when I was there. Effects included:

Less behavioural incidents requiring SLT during class time.
Less reports of bullying.
Vast improvement in sporting success when competing against other schools.
Increased intake.
Children's responses in the annual student survey indicated that they were significantly happier at school.
The same thing happened in the annual parent survey.

These are all things which are measured and tracked, but I'm sure you'll just claim it's all my opinion because you think I'm old fashioned, while you paint yourself as some kind of dashing rogue for not liking rules.

As I've already said, you can argue that uniforms aren't worth it because despite the benefits, there are drawbacks. However, arguing that there are no benefits just makes you misinformed.

most say no
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Damn those are expensive

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I mean I agree that they are sneakers and I agree that they should ban sneakers. But I dont think its a rule that they should enforce. If someone shows up in sneakers, I wouldn't say, no you can't graduate. I just would ignore it and let them walk. Its a goddamn highschool graduation, no one gaf what people wear.

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MrDrMan posted...

There is so much shit in the world that exists only so old people can feel like they have authority. This last year taught us that. A large chunk of the work force realized they really never needed to go into a physical office for work at all.

Cant wait for that generation to retire so that we can actually just focus on what matters.

For real though

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