Current Events > Communism and socialism go against selfish human nature

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Prismsblade posted...

Yea, people cooperate regularly either to do things selfish things all the time. Dunno why this this is such a foreign concept to some of you.

Kind of like how charisma, two generally positive traits arent always synonymous with good but evil as well. This applies to negative traits as well.

Two generally positive traits?

Flauros posted...

I thought under communism the real goal is to get into power so that you own everything and decided who gets what under you?

You thought wrong. Communism advocates for the abolishment of both hierarchy and private ownership.

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Shablagoo posted...

Two generally positive traits?

My bad, forgot to add leadership.

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Prismsblade posted...

My bad, forgot to add leadership.

leadership isn't a trait. and I wouldn't say that charisma is generally a "positive" trait; only that having charisma is beneficial to the individual

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averagejoel posted...

leadership isn't a trait. and I wouldn't say that charisma is generally a "positive" trait; only that having charisma is beneficial to the individual

I mean, thats debatable, but ultimately irrelevant towards my main point.

And charisma is certainly a positive trait considering its RARELY viewed otherwise, nor any less desired if when so.


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Prismsblade posted...

I mean, thats debatable, but ultimately irrelevant towards my main point.

And charisma is certainly a positive trait considering its RARELY viewed otherwise, nor any less desired if when so.

like I said, it's beneficial to the individual to be charismatic. but I think that's distinct from it being a "positive" trait

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"We're sick of bootlickers and the system, so we're gonna give the government more control!" - Commies, probably

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Yeah I wouldnt call charisma an objectively positive trait. In fact charisma is often used to beguile.

Lathissamus posted...

"We're sick of bootlickers and the system, so we're gonna give the government more control!" - Commies, probably

Yup, us commies dont want to lick fascist boots but we do want to form a mutually beneficial community.

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Shablagoo posted...

Yeah I wouldnt call charisma an objectively positive trait. In fact charisma is often used to beguile.

Yup, us commies dont want to lick fascist boots but we do want to form a mutually beneficial community.

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wiiking96 posted...

It has more to do with the deluge of right-wing propaganda people are exposed to and how it rots their brains. People are not born racist or bigoted, they are taught these things.

I think we can attribute the high level of moral depravity throughout so much of human history to the awful living conditions that humans have had to endure throughout most of human history. People are shaped by their socioeconomic conditions.

I think it can be both, but I do think both are recoverable. One just takes longer.
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