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SwayM 06/09/21 12:51:33 AM #52: |
Gurifisu posted...
At boot camp they're actively trying to make you quit, fail, give up etc. If this kid were to act like the dog you think he's trained to be, he'd follow orders and see the Navy corpsman. When they see that you're fucked, that do everything they can to get you to see the proper medical, be it physical or mental, attention that you need. ManaYuka posted... Yeah also went to ft Leonard wood. The program is 100 percent designed to make soldier push through pain/sickness/signs of medical injury. two very different stories --- Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gurifisu 06/09/21 12:52:40 AM #53: |
SwayM posted...
two very different storiesYeah, two very different times and two very different branches of the military. --- Enter the baller zone: http://error1355.com/ce/Gurifisu.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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buddhamonster 06/09/21 12:59:30 AM #54: |
I feel as though Marines have a tough enough job should war actually break out, that you should have this level of training to prepare them.
When youre dropped in hostile territory, with very little supplies, and expected to hold a beach head or push in while you await the big army guys to relieve you, you just might find yourself going several days with very little sleep and shit rations, and be expected to not only keep your shit together, but to engage in combat like that. Our theoretical enemies certainly wont be going easy on them just because theyre tired and hungry. While the occasional death or accident is obviously not the preferred outcome, having that unit break in combat because they arent prepared could be even more devastating for everyone involved. --- Hey Trashcan Man! What did old lady Semple say when you burned her pension check? Boston Bruins - 2011 Stanley Cup Champs! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 06/09/21 6:20:28 PM #56: |
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alphagamble 06/09/21 6:23:03 PM #57: |
He looks way older than 19
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mrduckbear 06/10/21 6:44:08 PM #58: |
most say yes
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Arcanine2009 06/12/21 1:35:41 AM #60: |
STEROLIZER posted...
Sucks that it happened, but like, it happens.i dunno.. 54 hours without sleeping and eating sounds like some navy seals training shit. Especially when you are gonna be burning all those calories doing intensive exercises.. insane. --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Snake07 06/12/21 1:37:21 AM #61: |
Marines do extreme sleep deprivation during basic? Always thought that was pretty much exclusively a special forces thing
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Old_Monkey 06/12/21 1:38:14 AM #62: |
Thats what the Crucible is
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Solid Snake07 06/12/21 1:55:17 AM #63: |
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Thats what the Crucible is All marines do this? --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Old_Monkey 06/12/21 2:00:44 AM #64: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
All marines do this?No. As far as I am aware, only Marines moving to SEAL have to pass the crucible. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OffTempo 06/12/21 2:04:31 AM #65: |
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All marines do this? Old_Monkey posted... No. As far as I am aware, only Marines moving to SEAL have to pass the crucible.No. If you want to become a SEAL you join the Navy pass their initial fitness test and go through BUDS. The Crucible is the final test all trainees go through at Marine bootcamp. --- Interviewer: "You're not even a superhero you're more of a vampire slayer." Blade: "Don't do that" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Old_Monkey 06/12/21 2:06:28 AM #66: |
Then yes
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Solid Snake07 06/12/21 2:35:03 AM #67: |
Oh, well it sounds like this was either a failing of the physical screening process or a freak accident. I would guess it's probably the latter.
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buddhamonster 06/12/21 3:46:17 AM #68: |
Arcanine2009 posted...
i dunno.. 54 hours without sleeping and eating sounds like some navy seals training shit. Especially when you are gonna be burning all those calories doing intensive exercises.. insane. These are people whos job in war is to land on a beach with very little supplies and to operate in hostile territory as a lightweight division that can move and strike fast so that other elements of the army can safely land behind them. It is not unheard of for Marines to be low on food and supplies and to go a few days without sleep in the pursuit of their objectives. There is a good reason they put them through this type of training. Its to replicate, to their best of their ability, conditions troops might actually find themselves them in should they be asked to go into an area with hostiles. --- Hey Trashcan Man! What did old lady Semple say when you burned her pension check? Boston Bruins - 2011 Stanley Cup Champs! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReignFury 06/12/21 4:00:23 AM #69: |
I always assumed that military training comes with some risk of death.
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darkprince45 06/12/21 4:02:40 AM #70: |
FreedomEtrtment posted...
They said that about waterboarding and solitary confinement too.How did you compare an actual torture process and a prison punishment. To a field training exercise lol --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OffTempo 06/12/21 5:37:00 PM #71: |
Arcanine2009 posted...
i dunno.. 54 hours without sleeping and eating sounds like some navy seals training shit. Especially when you are gonna be burning all those calories doing intensive exercises.. insane.You're allowed a total of 8 hours of sleep during the Crucible and you are given food, not sure why the article doesn't mention this. Hundreds of Marines pass the Crucible without fail. Hell my friend just got through it and is in Camp Lejune right now. And this is nothing like BUDS that SEAL trainees have to go through. If you want an overview of what its like this video does a decent job of explaining what its like. The only thing he gets wrong is that he says women aren't allowed to apply. Its not that they aren't allowed but no woman has made it through the training before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IOyQlZRKhQ --- Interviewer: "You're not even a superhero you're more of a vampire slayer." Blade: "Don't do that" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 06/12/21 6:21:47 PM #72: |
OffTempo posted...
You're allowed a total of 8 hours of sleep during the Crucible and you are given food, not sure why the article doesn't mention this. Hundreds of Marines pass the Crucible without fail. Hell my friend just got through it and is in Camp Lejune right now. It doesn't make as titillating a story to mention that the recruits are provided an opportunity to sleep and eat. Arcanine2009 posted... i dunno.. 54 hours without sleeping and eating sounds like some navy seals training shit. Especially when you are gonna be burning all those calories doing intensive exercises.. insane. I dunno the details about the training process in every branch, but some sleep deprivation is standard in Navy RTC. Your first couple days there, you'll probably be awake for about 36 hours, unless you managed to get a couple hours of sleep on your flight there. That's because you'll probably arrive late at night, be up through the rushed checking and through the entire next day until about 10PM. And then the last major training event is Battlestations, to simulate emergency situations onboard a ship that is under attack and to test you on the training you've received over the prior weeks. You're expected to stay up the entire previous day's training, do Battlestations during the whole night, and then remain awake during the whole next day. If, at any point, you are found to be sleeping during that period you fail the evaluation and get kicked back a few weeks to try again. Assuming you got 8 hours of sleep the previous night, about 42 hours, if I recall. But even then you have dinner before the event and the three meals the following days. Recruits getting sleep, shower time, and food was actually taken pretty seriously. Three meals a day provided, about 15 minutes to shower at the end of the day, and 8 hours alloted for sleeping (aside from watch-standing duty). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mrduckbear 06/13/21 4:45:55 PM #73: |
most still say yes
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Unsugarized_Foo 06/13/21 4:53:26 PM #74: |
How many lives does this training save?
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wackyteen 06/13/21 4:56:16 PM #75: |
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
How many lives does this training save?In war, that kind of exposure to shitty elements prior? Potentially a lot. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3PiesAndAFork 06/13/21 5:01:18 PM #76: |
FreedomEtrtment posted...
America, where you're old enough to basically get tortured to death in the military but not old enough to drink, smoke, and according to some people, choose who you want to have sex with.This. You're sending kids to go die for Jeff Bezos and other rich people. The age should be increased to 24; get some real life experience before the military brainwashes you. --- @('_')@ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMikh 06/13/21 5:15:53 PM #77: |
Graycap posted...
The marines are known for harsher training than other military branches and it really stands to question why they're so necessary to this one branch. It's entirely possible there are outdated traditions. to my understanding the marines do the heavy lifting, so to speak - the first to be deployed when the us goes to war, and likely subject to more intense conditions as such, with the army being deployed after a foothold has been established. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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