Poll of the Day > Square Enix needs to stop the artificial segmentation.

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Judgmenl
06/14/21 7:19:07 AM
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It's like playing a game of darts, Wherever the dart lands, is the platform your game releases on. This is some 2000s era shit.

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helIy
06/14/21 7:21:01 AM
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yeah, people have been asking for a remaster collection of 1-6 for years

and square finally does it!

for phones.

i haven't seen one person who is happy about this

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MondoMan180
06/14/21 7:27:44 AM
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helIy posted...
yeah, people have been asking for a remaster collection of 1-6 for years

and square finally does it!

for phones.

i haven't seen one person who is happy about this

I was confused by that news, because I thought there was only 4 pre-FFVII games.

I thought 4 was localized 2, and 6 was localized 3. Like I thought 2 of the games in the series were basically duplicate due to naming convention.

Idk

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MondoMan180
06/14/21 7:29:19 AM
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And it also looks like they're goinjg to take 10 years to release their much ballyhooed FFVII remake, in 3 installments

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ParanoidObsessive
06/14/21 7:41:42 AM
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MondoMan180 posted...
I was confused by that news, because I thought there was only 4 pre-FFVII games.

I thought 4 was localized 2, and 6 was localized 3.

They were.

In the US, the original FF was on the NES as FF.

Then FFIV and FFVI were localized as FF2 and FF3, because Square was afraid that FFII and FFIII (both Famicom games) were too primitive for an audience that was already moving to the SNES (ie, the Super Famicom).

Then they skipped FFV because they felt like it was kind of meh and wanted to push the most cutting-edge FF they had at the time as the follow-up to FF2 (aka FFIV).

What makes it more complicated is that the English version of FF2 was significantly stripped down from FFIV in terms of game mechanics (because the Japanese had a strong belief at the time that American audiences didn't like/want difficult games - which is also why we got a different Super Mario Bros 2 than Japan did), and was later re-released in Japan as "FFIV Easy Type".

But once the PS1 came out and Square jumped from Nintendo to Sony, a conscious decision was made to just go with the original Japanese numbering, so we got FFVII as FFVII, rather than continuing the NES/SNES numbering and making it FF4 or something.

Over time, various remakes, rereleases, and anthology collections means we got the other three games (FFII, FFIII, and FFV) in the US eventually anyway. But the FF2 and FF3 numbering can still confuse people who didn't live through it.
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ParanoidObsessive
06/14/21 7:42:38 AM
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MondoMan180 posted...
And it also looks like they're goinjg to take 10 years to release their much ballyhooed FFVII remake, in 3 installments

Well, they've already killed the nostalgia for it by changing the story, so there's a good chance most people aren't going to give a shit when the later games come out anyway.
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Lokarin
06/14/21 7:46:42 AM
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If FF7 is delayed it will be FF7 Remake Tardigrade

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adjl
06/14/21 7:59:30 AM
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helIy posted...
yeah, people have been asking for a remaster collection of 1-6 for years

and square finally does it!

for phones.

i haven't seen one person who is happy about this

This is that TWEWY announcement from a few years ago all over again. Run a countdown to a big reveal... and it's a mobile port.

Squenix has a rather tenuous grasp on what people actually want.

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Judgmenl
06/14/21 8:13:00 AM
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helIy posted...
yeah, people have been asking for a remaster collection of 1-6 for years

and square finally does it!

for phones.

i haven't seen one person who is happy about this
You don't want to play a crappy mobile port.
They will end up making a "switch verison" (like the did for Dragon Quest XI) and then releasing that on PC 6-12 months later too.

So PC will have a half dozen versions of the same game. See what they did with FF8.

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helIy
06/14/21 8:59:13 AM
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adjl posted...
This is that TWEWY announcement from a few years ago all over again. Run a countdown to a big reveal... and it's a mobile port.

Squenix has a rather tenuous grasp on what people actually want.
isn't it also on switch though

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adjl
06/14/21 9:04:20 AM
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helIy posted...
isn't it also on switch though

That came later, and with substantially less fanfare. The big countdown thing that they were hyping up (which most people were expecting to be a sequel or remake, given that they counted down to it for like a week) was a simple mobile port.

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papercup
06/14/21 9:28:56 AM
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Seriously, FF7, 9, 10, 10-2, and 12 (maybe also 8? idk idc about 8) are already on Switch. Putting the rest on just seems obvious. Hell, the series 35th anniversary is next year. Perfect time to make a big box collection with all of the mainline games.

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Lil_Bit83
06/14/21 10:14:45 AM
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I'm not a SE fan, but that decision is so confusing.

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Zeus
06/14/21 2:36:36 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
(because the Japanese had a strong belief at the time that American audiences didn't like/want difficult games - which is also why we got a different Super Mario Bros 2 than Japan did)

...that and the fact Western audiences would have been less tolerant about SMB2 having so few differences from the original SMB, given that it re-used the same maps, enemy models, etc, and just changed which enemies were where. Most Americans would have rightly felt ripped off if they bought that.

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Revelation34
06/14/21 2:47:02 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...


Well, they've already killed the nostalgia for it by changing the story, so there's a good chance most people aren't going to give a shit when the later games come out anyway.


Are they changing the story for any of the games in the collection? Also did they remaster the originals or did they use the shitty graphics that the Steam version of FF6 uses?
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Soup_or_Science
06/14/21 3:19:33 PM
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Were you trying to make my brain think your topic title read as "insemination"?

Judgmenl posted...
It's like playing a game of darts, Wherever the dart lands, is the platform your game releases on. This is some 2000s era shit.

And that's how you play darts!?

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Krazy_Kirby
06/14/21 8:02:03 PM
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you guys have phones, right?
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papercup
06/14/21 8:04:01 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
you guys have phones, right?

Yes but that doesn't mean I want to play games on it.

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Judgmenl
06/14/21 8:16:21 PM
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My phone is like 6 years old.
I use it to text my mother\ and if I have an internet outage.

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Revelation34
06/14/21 8:21:41 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
you guys have phones, right?


So?
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Mead
06/14/21 8:28:48 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
So?

I think hes referencing the blizzard announcement for their mobile game a couple years ago

the audience hated everything about it and booed when they were told it wasnt coming to PC and one of the presenters gave the tone deaf response of Do you guys not have phones? Or something similar to that

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Revelation34
06/14/21 8:29:57 PM
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Mead posted...


I think hes referencing the blizzard announcement for their mobile game a couple years ago

the audience hated everything about it and booed when they were told it wasnt coming to PC and one of the presenters gave the tone deaf response of Do you guys not have phones? Or something similar to that


Oh. I never paid much attention to it since I never played Diablo 3. I knew the controversy over it and only read the comments on the original trailer.
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eating4fun
06/14/21 8:34:16 PM
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The technology just isnt there yet.

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trodi_911
06/14/21 8:58:07 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Oh. I never paid much attention to it since I never played Diablo 3. I knew the controversy over it and only read the comments on the original trailer.
Here's the clip if you wanted to get the reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5QRgpjfarY

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joemodda
06/14/21 9:03:27 PM
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Am I the only one who read artificial insemination?

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