Current Events > CDC finds more cases of heart inflammation than expected after Covid vaccine

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BlueTigerLion posted...

This is coming from the CDC. This is the science which is current events.

It was made in blatant bad faith and just attracted trolls.

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Ignoring me doesn't make you any less wrong

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spikethedevil posted...

This topic needs to be locked now.

I mean the article itself is fine, but it was shared in a disingenuous way

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@2Pacavelli But youre ok with taking a chance at getting something like erectile dysfunction or permanent lung damage as a possible side effect from covid?

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spikethedevil posted...

@2Pacavelli But youre ok with taking a chance at getting something like erectile dysfunction or permanent lung damage as a possible side effect from covid?

At this point let them suffer the consequences of their inactions.

I just feel sorry for the immunocompromised who continue to be at risk

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Will_VIIII posted...

At this point let them suffer the consequences of their inactions.

I just feel sorry for the immunocompromised who continue to be at risk

This

Anti-Vaxxers in 2021 are beyond help at this point.

You have a greater risk of getting the adverse reactions from the actual disease itself than you do from the vaccine anyway, so the but the side effects argument is just dumb


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2Pacavelli posted...

This is one of the reasons why I'll never take the Covid-19 vaccine

Becuase you follow emotions and conspiracy rather than science? I'd have so much more respect for anti-vaxxers if they just abandoned modern medicine. Be the naturalist your arguments paint you as.

Newsflash: every single medical treatment can and will hurt someone. We have to accept that for the good of society. Better to treat the diseases than let them harm society while we wait for fictional perfect medicine.

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Samurontai posted...

This

Anti-Vaxxers in 2021 are beyond help at this point.

You have a greater risk of getting the adverse reactions from the actual disease itself than you do from the vaccine anyway, so the but the side effects argument is just dumb

Right.

"But we don't know the long term effects of the vaccine reeeee!"

We don't even know the long term effects of covid-19 itself.

We know the short term effects of covid-19, some of which can be severe. In contrast the vaccines generally speaking do not have any short of a couole days where you may not feel 100% and statistical outliers like the article in the OP.

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We don't know the long-term effects of the MMR vaccine yet. It might take 80 years or only trigger autism in future generations. I'm just being safe. Vaccines aren't foolproof. There's a 3% chance you can still contract measles.

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617,000 covid deaths in the US alone
Lots of people living with long term side effects from covid

But sure, ~1200 cases of heart inflammation possibly being linked to the vaccines out of hundreds of millions of doses is the bigger concern

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Fuck off with the "lock this topic now" BS. Yeah, dude posted a trolling comment but it's still a good article to read and we should be aware of any side effects of the vaccine.

I got my second shot in May, I encourage everyone to get the shot, but putting your fingers in your ears and pretending it's perfect is some shit, as well.

PesticideDream posted...

Fuck off with the "lock this topic now" BS. Yeah, dude posted a trolling comment but it's still a good article to read and we should be aware of any side effects of the vaccine.

I got my second shot in May, I encourage everyone to get the shot, but putting your fingers in your ears and pretending it's perfect is some shit, as well.

The problem is that people want it to be perfect. Facts are extremely dangerous in the hands of idiots. It's a crying shame that there are human beings that read these statistics and get scared. Side effects are an acceptable casualty. If everyone was actually consistent, they'd lock themselves in their rooms their entire lives, but instead they pick and choose when to fear statistical outliers.

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PesticideDream posted...

Fuck off with the "lock this topic now" BS. Yeah, dude posted a trolling comment but it's still a good article to read and we should be aware of any side effects of the vaccine.

I got my second shot in May, I encourage everyone to get the shot, but putting your fingers in your ears and pretending it's perfect is some shit, as well.

Who is "putting their fingers in their ears and pretending the vaccine is perfect" ITT?

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Imagine what would happen if they ran extensive randomized controlled trials to understand if there were any causal relationship!

Oh wait...

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hockeybub89 posted...

We don't know the long-term effects of the MMR vaccine yet. It might take 80 years or only trigger autism in future generations. I'm just being safe. Vaccines aren't foolproof. There's a 3% chance you can still contract measles.

No. There's a 3% chance to can contract measles if you're exposed to measles. If everyone is vaccinated with MMR the chances of measles getting to you in the first place is lower than a shark attack.

And the autism thing is proven to be pure bullshit. It was literally made up by a lawyer so he could sue pharmaceutical companies.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

No. There's a 3% chance to can contract measles if you're exposed to measles. If everyone is vaccinated with MMR the chances of measles getting to you in the first place is lower than a shark attack.

And the autism thing is proven to be pure bullshit. It was literally made up by a lawyer so he could sue pharmaceutical companies.

Oh shit. Poe's Law backfired on me again.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Oh shit. Poe's Law backfired on me again.

You really can't tell these days

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CableZL posted...

617,000 covid deaths in the US alone
Lots of people living with long term side effects from covid

But sure, ~1200 cases of heart inflammation possibly being linked to the vaccines out of hundreds of millions of doses is the bigger concern

"But did you know there are over 300 million Americans?!!! Most of them never died and death is the only symptom a disease can cause."

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CableZL posted...

617,000 covid deaths in the US alone
Lots of people living with long term side effects from covid

But sure, ~1200 cases of heart inflammation possibly being linked to the vaccines out of hundreds of millions of doses is the bigger concern

Anti-Vaxers tend to either not understand numbers or they deliberately pretend long Covid doesnt exist while fully believing every thing they see about vaccine side effects.

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The chance of catching and then having long term side effects from Covid are higher than the chance of having serious or long term side effects from the vaccine.

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lemondrop7 posted...

look man we are well past arguing. Ive been suspended twice for anti vax trolling so I dont bother arguing anymore. IMO theres no one whos on the fence anymore, you either think anti vaxxers are lunatic monsters or youre like me and think this is the biggest joke of my lifetime fueled by media deception and gaslighting

Don't forget to tip your fedora on your way out.

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Finished up CV2 again.
It's got a weird "collapsing difficulty" thing going on, especially if you keep up with whip upgrades. Levelling up reduces damage taken, and every other level gives more life. Doesn't seem like the various baddies scale up damage given, so your playstyle can get looser and less deliberate as you go on.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Finished up CV2 again.
It's got a weird "collapsing difficulty" thing going on, especially if you keep up with whip upgrades. Levelling up reduces damage taken, and every other level gives more life. Doesn't seem like the various baddies scale up damage given, so your playstyle can get looser and less deliberate as you go on.

Wot

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Finished up CV2 again.
It's got a weird "collapsing difficulty" thing going on, especially if you keep up with whip upgrades. Levelling up reduces damage taken, and every other level gives more life. Doesn't seem like the various baddies scale up damage given, so your playstyle can get looser and less deliberate as you go on.

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get every vaccine for ultimate corona protection. that means import sputnik v as well.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Wot

Difficultly scaling in Castlevania 2 is essentially nonexistent, or rather, in reverse.

Also I'm in the wrong thread again.

lemondrop7 posted...

no one that is anti vax wants a discussion at this point (at least among my friends). Now its just leave us alone we get it you think we are evil people thats fine. The one thing Im glad about this whole thing is now names dont bother me. Anti vaxx, alt right, etc just names used to demonize people

I dont get your antivax position but Im willing to discuss. You seem cool, you voted for La Riva, right?

I currently take medication daily that is keeping me alive. I was in a really bad, near-death spot before they got me on it. It has rare but serious side effects (like organ failure), but Im glad to be on it because Id be dead otherwise.


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anti vax decisions are essentially bad decisions, but people take bad decisions for their health daily and are going to find wats to rationalize it so are we really surprised

Questionmarktarius posted...

Difficultly scaling in Castlevania 2 is essentially nonexistent, or rather, in reverse.

Also I'm in the wrong thread again.

What the hell does that have to do with vaccines lmao?

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Shablagoo posted...

I dont get your antivax position but Im willing to discuss. You seem cool, you voted for La Riva, right?

I currently take medication daily that is keeping me alive. I was in a really bad, near-death spot before they got me on it. It has rare but serious side effects (like organ failure), but Im glad to be on it because Id be dead otherwise.

I dont know how you knew that but yes I did in 2016. I didnt vote in 2020I wouldve voted Biden because I felt trumps cult was teetering on the edge of too far goneof course Biden has been even worse than trump so I feel kind of foolish in retrospect. Turns out both sides are disasters, the Democrats policy wise, the republicans just have gone full religious nutjob.

anyway I have no issues with medication or vaccines. Im only anti vaxx which Ive embraced as a moniker because the idea of mandating medical treatment of any kind goes against my principles of freedom. I dont like that children require them for schools and I dont like the horrifying measures taken during the last year essentially by stepping the entire constitution.

I am not anti science or anti hospital. I am not against anyone getting whatever treatment they think will help. Now I wish I could actually give my reasons for not wanting the vaccine but I would get modded again. Apparently opinions on the severity of covid in this country cannot be subjective so I will just let it rest that my stance is based on freedom first

Because fuck immuno compromised people? And you would rather take a gamble getting covid and getting permanent lung damage or erectile dysfunction? Or any of the other side effects of covid?

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spikethedevil posted...

Because fuck immuno compromised people? And you would rather take a gamble getting covid and getting permanent lung damage or erectile dysfunction? Or any of the other side effects of covid?

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Dark_SilverX posted...

So no actual response outside of a shit post meme?

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spikethedevil posted...

So no actual response outside of a shit post meme?

the kitten telling you to calm down

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TBF kitten is probably right lol.

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That cat is smarter than anti-vaxxers.

lemondrop7 posted...

I dont know how you knew that but yes I did in 2016. I didnt vote in 2020I wouldve voted Biden because I felt trumps cult was teetering on the edge of too far goneof course Biden has been even worse than trump so I feel kind of foolish in retrospect. Turns out both sides are disasters, the Democrats policy wise, the republicans just have gone full religious nutjob.

anyway I have no issues with medication or vaccines. Im only anti vaxx which Ive embraced as a moniker because the idea of mandating medical treatment of any kind goes against my principles of freedom. I dont like that children require them for schools and I dont like the horrifying measures taken during the last year essentially by stepping the entire constitution.

I am not anti science or anti hospital. I am not against anyone getting whatever treatment they think will help. Now I wish I could actually give my reasons for not wanting the vaccine but I would get modded again. Apparently opinions on the severity of covid in this country cannot be subjective so I will just let it rest that my stance is based on freedom first

I had literally just as much freedom before getting vaccinated as I did after. >_> Nobody forced me to get it, it just had a higher expected value than not getting it had.

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lemondrop7 posted...

I dont know how you knew that but yes I did in 2016. I didnt vote in 2020I wouldve voted Biden because I felt trumps cult was teetering on the edge of too far goneof course Biden has been even worse than trump so I feel kind of foolish in retrospect. Turns out both sides are disasters, the Democrats policy wise, the republicans just have gone full religious nutjob.

anyway I have no issues with medication or vaccines. Im only anti vaxx which Ive embraced as a moniker because the idea of mandating medical treatment of any kind goes against my principles of freedom. I dont like that children require them for schools and I dont like the horrifying measures taken during the last year essentially by stepping the entire constitution.

I am not anti science or anti hospital. I am not against anyone getting whatever treatment they think will help. Now I wish I could actually give my reasons for not wanting the vaccine but I would get modded again. Apparently opinions on the severity of covid in this country cannot be subjective so I will just let it rest that my stance is based on freedom first

You can just say you hate your fellow man and don't believe in modern medicine. Why the hell do you think your opinions matter? There is truth and lies.

There are always some limits to freedom. You don't have the fucking freedom to choose to hurt others.

Vaccines are one of the most important inventions in human history, and they require consensus to work because they are for all of society. They don't work when half the country thinks their feelings are a substitiuon for medical degrees and peer-reviewed research. If we can't get everyone vaccinated by their own good will, then incentives need to be pushed.

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It seems men under 30 are a particular target with regards to these symptoms, but even then, it seems like 70% of symptom havers recover from their symptoms, so if they can find a way to deal with the 30% of symptom havers that are having a hard time, they can get this vaccine in near perfect shape even though it's already in near perfect shape.

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