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viewmaster_pi
07/04/21 8:26:52 AM
#201:


one thing i don't think i've mentioned is that his side-b isn't in any way representative of 'bowser'

like... he jumps 60 feet in the air, does a backflip, then spins at like 2,000rpm down to the ground... in what universe does bowser move like this? koopa klaw was sick, flying slam is just ridiculous to witness

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LostForest
07/04/21 12:42:29 PM
#202:


viewmaster_pi posted...
one thing i don't think i've mentioned is that his side-b isn't in any way representative of 'bowser'

like... he jumps 60 feet in the air, does a backflip, then spins at like 2,000rpm down to the ground... in what universe does bowser move like this? koopa klaw was sick, flying slam is just ridiculous to witness

It's true. It's really true. They made Bowser way too agile in Smash, in general, starting with Wii U. In mainline Mario games, he's always big and hulking and menacing, using magic and fire breath and stuff. And in Mario sports games, he's always slow but a powerhouse.

I guess they did it for balancing but it really doesn't represent him as a character accurately.

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MrFaceDude
07/04/21 1:44:14 PM
#203:


LostForest posted...
It's true. It's really true. They made Bowser way too agile in Smash, in general, starting with Wii U. In mainline Mario games, he's always big and hulking and menacing, using magic and fire breath and stuff. And in Mario sports games, he's always slow but a powerhouse.

I guess they did it for balancing but it really doesn't represent him as a character accurately.
Bowser is pretty agile in the later 3D mario games. In galaxy hes doing back flips in his final boss encounter, and in odyssey he jumps all around the arena like a frog in both fights. He also runs faster than mario in that game. Theres also a couple of moves in the Mario & Luigi series that are really sinilar to flying slam. Moveset-wise hes more accurate than hes ever been in a Smash game imo.

Where I do agree that they dropped the ball is in his personality. Bowser is a lot more of a goofball in the mainline games. Smash makes him a more generic evil villain type and he loses a lot of that loveable charm he has in the main series. Especially when compared to someone like DK who, aside from the voice change, has his personality almost 1:1 between franchises.

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pojr
07/04/21 2:09:20 PM
#204:


Bowser did some pretty incredible flips when Mario threw him into the spikes in Super Mario 64 >_>

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anttttt
07/04/21 2:25:25 PM
#205:


LostForest posted...
They made Bowser way too agile in Smash, in general, starting with Wii U.
to be fair, bowser was the worst character in melee and bottom tier in brawl, and was a total gimmick in 4 like dk was and i think that design of fishing for grabs was really unhealthy
bowser has pretty dumb attributes in ultimate but he still has awful landing and his recovery is a lot less good than it looks if you actively challenge it. side-b is a di check and can take a while to kill because of it. he has two good oos moves but they all have awful endlag

bowser being agile is the only thing that makes him good (i wouldn't even rank him top 20) because he lacks some of the major weaknesses that ganon and dedede (the worst superheavies) have
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EyeWontBeFooled
07/04/21 2:30:03 PM
#206:


anttttt posted...
to be fair, bowser was the worst character in melee and bottom tier in brawl, and was a total gimmick in 4 like dk was and i think that design of fishing for grabs was really unhealthy
bowser has pretty dumb attributes in ultimate but he still has awful landing and his recovery is a lot less good than it looks if you actively challenge it. side-b is a di check and can take a while to kill because of it. he has two good oos moves but they all have awful endlag

bowser being agile is the only thing that makes him good (i wouldn't even rank him top 20) because he lacks some of the major weaknesses that ganon and dedede (the worst superheavies) have
This man speaks truth about challenging Bowser recoveries...

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LostForest
07/04/21 2:30:53 PM
#207:


MrFaceDude posted...
Bowser is pretty agile in the later 3D mario games. In galaxy hes doing back flips in his final boss encounter, and in odyssey he jumps all around the arena like a frog in both fights

That's fair. I withdraw my statement lol.

MrFaceDude posted...
Where I do agree that they dropped the ball is in his personality. Bowser is a lot more of a goofball in the mainline games. Smash makes him a more generic evil villain type and he loses a lot of that loveable charm he has in the main series.

This here, you're right. This is the bigger deal. For whatever reason, Sakurai's vision of him is this menacing monster, but like you said. He's a ham, in most Mario games. I remember a lot of people were rallying for them to give him his iconic "SHOWTIME" voice clip from Bowser's Inside Story, for his Final Smash in Smash 4.

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MrFaceDude
07/04/21 3:41:17 PM
#208:


LostForest posted...
That's fair. I withdraw my statement lol.

This here, you're right. This is the bigger deal. For whatever reason, Sakurai's vision of him is this menacing monster, but like you said. He's a ham, in most Mario games. I remember a lot of people were rallying for them to give him his iconic "SHOWTIME" voice clip from Bowser's Inside Story, for his Final Smash in Smash 4.
YES. Bring back the hammy Bowser lol. Hes more than just some monster!


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MrFaceDude
07/04/21 3:42:27 PM
#209:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
This man speaks truth about challenging Bowser recoveries...
*Laughs in Monke down air*

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AceAttorneyist
07/04/21 11:12:50 PM
#210:


I played Melee today with my friend for the first time in over a year and got absolutely destroyed. I've played Ultimate so much that I kept trying to buffer moves, kept trying to RAR, kept getting stuck in shield and in my movement because input timing is strict and mistiming generally causes nothing to happen, used the wrong DI in many situations, etc etc

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davyheinz
07/04/21 11:25:14 PM
#211:


I played it on Dolphin a few days ago to test out my PC fixes and it seemed slightly better but my gameplay was absolutely horrid. It would take time to get back into form.

Anyways, does anybody want to chill and game?

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EyeWontBeFooled
07/04/21 11:42:59 PM
#212:


davyheinz posted...
I played it on Dolphin a few days ago to test out my PC fixes and it seemed slightly better but my gameplay was absolutely horrid. It would take time to get back into form.

Anyways, does anybody want to chill and game?
I can if someone else will lol

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davyheinz
07/05/21 12:37:36 AM
#213:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
I can if someone else will lol
>.> Hello

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NightMarishPie
07/05/21 5:03:55 PM
#214:


in the event anyone cares, here's a vod from a tournament i did last week. no commentary/webcam, just gameplay. i ended up getting 9th at this local. webcam one should be up soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6xKzIhv62o

overall, wasn't too unhappy with my play and a w is a w. need to get better on different ledge trapping options and not holding forward so much in neutral. otherwise, feeling pretty good offline recently.

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EyeWontBeFooled
07/05/21 5:10:24 PM
#215:


NightMarishPie posted...
in the event anyone cares, here's a vod from a tournament i did last week. no commentary/webcam, just gameplay. i ended up getting 9th at this local. webcam one should be up soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6xKzIhv62o

overall, wasn't too unhappy with my play and a w is a w. need to get better on different ledge trapping options and not holding forward so much in neutral. otherwise, feeling pretty good offline recently.
Very nice!

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Goatsensation
07/05/21 5:36:47 PM
#216:


Is piranha plant any good?

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MrFaceDude
07/05/21 6:20:45 PM
#217:


Yo anyone wanna get some games going?

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EyeWontBeFooled
07/05/21 6:31:15 PM
#218:


MrFaceDude posted...
Yo anyone wanna get some games going?
I can do some. Need a few minutes

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NightMarishPie
07/05/21 6:32:37 PM
#219:


Goatsensation posted...
Is piranha plant any good?
Plant is a weird character that arguably has the best ledge trapping in the game, but pretty mediocre at everything else. IMO, mid tier.

Also I'll get on soon for some games.

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anttttt
07/05/21 6:33:50 PM
#220:


plant is a ledge trap god but he's a bit of a one-trick

if he had two or three good better moves (also fix upsmash fallouts already) he'd probably be pretty nice
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EyeWontBeFooled
07/05/21 6:35:27 PM
#221:


OK, I'm on, but the guy from Canada probably shouldn't be the one making the room lol

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MrFaceDude
07/05/21 6:38:02 PM
#222:


Ill make it lol. One sec

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MrFaceDude
07/05/21 6:42:15 PM
#223:


Bleh had to fix my HDMI cable. Alrighty:

9QLJJ/ pw:69

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EyeWontBeFooled
07/05/21 6:52:14 PM
#224:


Nooooooo lol
Almost had the best two of three

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MrFaceDude
07/05/21 6:55:09 PM
#225:


Monke too stronk

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MrFaceDude
07/05/21 6:57:36 PM
#226:


Yo I gotta compliment myself right there. That felt fucking sick lol

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EyeWontBeFooled
07/05/21 6:59:50 PM
#227:


MrFaceDude posted...
Monke too stronk
Just a bit, right?
Close games most times

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MrFaceDude
07/05/21 7:03:13 PM
#228:


Good shit! Monke got rocked

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EyeWontBeFooled
07/05/21 7:05:33 PM
#229:


MrFaceDude posted...
Good shit! Monke got rocked
Yeah!
I think I can win 2 or 3 out of 10 with you. I will get better!
Yeah, my post was about right. Won 2 of 10 games.

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EyeWontBeFooled
07/05/21 7:10:36 PM
#230:


Need bathroom bbl

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MrFaceDude
07/05/21 7:11:04 PM
#231:


Sounds good lol

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pojr
07/05/21 7:15:18 PM
#232:


NightMarishPie posted...
in the event anyone cares, here's a vod from a tournament i did last week. no commentary/webcam, just gameplay. i ended up getting 9th at this local. webcam one should be up soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6xKzIhv62o

overall, wasn't too unhappy with my play and a w is a w. need to get better on different ledge trapping options and not holding forward so much in neutral. otherwise, feeling pretty good offline recently.
nice game. if i played that guy, i probably would have had a stock lead and then choked it away. too bad we don't get to see ruckus in person lol.

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KobeSystem
07/05/21 7:15:40 PM
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EyeWontBeFooled
07/05/21 7:16:52 PM
#234:


KobeSystem posted...
r u guys stil going
God I needed the bathroom lmao

I could've brought the Switch in, but that would take my 20 percent chance of winning right down to zero rofl

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MrFaceDude
07/05/21 7:17:18 PM
#235:


KobeSystem posted...
r u guys stil going
Im just chillin in here lol

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pojr
07/05/21 7:18:06 PM
#236:


apparently i played EyeWillBeFooled at Ruckus' tournament.



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EyeWontBeFooled
07/05/21 7:18:50 PM
#237:


MrFaceDude posted...
Bleh had to fix my HDMI cable. Alrighty:

9QLJJ/ pw:69


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EyeWontBeFooled
07/05/21 7:20:00 PM
#238:


pojr posted...
apparently i played EyeWillBeFooled at Ruckus' tournament.

Nope. Never go Red Bowser. He just dummy thick and can go to 200 plus percent without too much problem lol

Also did you beat him?

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pojr
07/05/21 7:20:13 PM
#239:


Goatsensation posted...
Is piranha plant any good?
it's a viewmaster pi character so it could probably be nerfed. but not as much as fucking busted ass Dr Mario lolz >_>

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pojr
07/05/21 7:21:07 PM
#240:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Nope. Never go Red Bowser. He just dummy thick and can go to 200 plus percent without too much problem lol

Also did you beat him?
Doubt it. Since "I" didn't win game 1 and the video is only 7 minutes long, that poor yoshi player probably got hammered.

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NightMarishPie
07/05/21 7:22:40 PM
#241:


pojr posted...
apparently i played EyeWillBeFooled at Ruckus' tournament.

thanks for the kind words! you'll see me soon in the next vod for better or for worse lol

also Immortal (the Bowser) is #4 on our PR. I actually went 1-2 with him at that local. He's really good.

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KobeSystem
07/05/21 7:27:17 PM
#242:


ill be playing soon. just smoking and chugging some beers to get in the right frame of mind >_>

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pojr
07/05/21 7:32:39 PM
#243:


i'll most likely play after P90X

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KobeSystem
07/05/21 7:33:09 PM
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MrFaceDude
07/05/21 7:33:29 PM
#245:


That was scary lol

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EyeWontBeFooled
07/05/21 7:33:49 PM
#246:


Dagnabbit sassafras Rabbits fuck!

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MrFaceDude
07/05/21 7:45:23 PM
#247:


What happened there?

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NightMarishPie
07/05/21 7:46:12 PM
#248:


apparently that back air stole my double jump somehow and by the time my pea brain realized it, i was too low to up b as seph lol

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MrFaceDude
07/05/21 7:47:42 PM
#249:


NightMarishPie posted...
apparently that back air stole my double jump somehow and by the time my pea brain realized it, i was too low to up b as seph lol
Oh I didnt even realize you lost your jump lol

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anttttt
07/05/21 7:47:48 PM
#250:


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