Current Events > Asking conservatives in good faith, why is the right seemingly so authoritarian?

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Doom_Art 07/07/21 1:08:00 PM #1:	Like for a group that seems to preach individual liberty and responsibility they sure seem to be pretty all about controlling certain things. Can a conservative please explain? Looking to have a civil discussion. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:955837993] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Like for a group that seems to preach individual liberty and responsibility they sure seem to be pretty all about controlling certain things. Can a conservative please explain? Looking to have a civil discussion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 07/07/21 1:25:37 PM #2:	conservatives stand for nothing but self gain. period. --- Playing: Yakuza 4 Remaster; Luigi's Mansion 3; Dead Cells; You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:955838501] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>conservatives stand for nothing but self gain. period. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/07/21 1:27:35 PM #3:	https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/07/07/leaked-video-gop-congressman-admits-his-party-wants-chaos-and-inability-get-stuff In Leaked Video, GOP Congressman Admits His Party Wants 'Chaos and Inability to Get Stuff Done' we need to get manchin and sinema to vote for all the things we need now gop literally just outright said what they arte doing <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:955838576] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/07/07/leaked-video-gop-congressman-admits-his-party-wants-chaos-and-inability-get-stuff In Leaked Video, GOP Congressman Admits His Party Wants 'Chaos and Inability to Get Stuff Done' we need to get manchin and sinema to vote for all the things we need now gop literally just outright said what they arte doing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 07/07/21 1:28:07 PM #4:	They say that same thing about the left. Bout all I can give you --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:955838592] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>They say that same thing about the left. Bout all I can give you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/07/21 1:30:07 PM #5:	Smackems posted... They say that same thing about the left. Bout all I can give you Yeah the left wants extreme authoritarian measures like expanded voting rights, restoration of voting rights to ex cons, legalized drugs, more police oversight, and taxing the 1% --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:955838672] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>They say that same thing about the left. Bout all I can give you</quote>Yeah the left wants extreme authoritarian measures like expanded voting rights, restoration of voting rights to ex cons, legalized drugs, more police oversight, and taxing the 1% </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 07/07/21 1:31:42 PM #6:	this topic has a fatal flaw: american conservatives dont do anything in good faith --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:955838720] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>this topic has a fatal flaw: american conservatives dont do anything in good faith </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/07/21 1:32:24 PM #7:	Smackems posted... They say that same thing about the left. Bout all I can give you b0tH sIdEs --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:955838740] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>They say that same thing about the left. Bout all I can give you</quote>b0tH sIdEs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
krazychao5 07/07/21 1:33:37 PM #8:	Tyranthraxus posted... Yeah the left wants extreme authoritarian measures like expanded voting rights, restoration of voting rights to ex cons, legalized drugs, more police oversight, and taxing the 1% do they, though? been hearing this rhetoric for decades yet nothing to show --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/bigllama?type=posted <cite>krazychao5 posted [p:955838784] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah the left wants extreme authoritarian measures like expanded voting rights, restoration of voting rights to ex cons, legalized drugs, more police oversight, and taxing the 1%</quote>do they, though? been hearing this rhetoric for decades yet nothing to show </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 07/07/21 1:33:55 PM #9:	CADE FOSTER posted... https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/07/07/leaked-video-gop-congressman-admits-his-party-wants-chaos-and-inability-get-stuff In Leaked Video, GOP Congressman Admits His Party Wants 'Chaos and Inability to Get Stuff Done' we need to get manchin and sinema to vote for all the things we need now gop literally just outright said what they arte doing Does that even matter? Bitch Mitch publicly said that he is going to stonewall everything the demorcrats do and he said that months ago. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:955838795] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>CADE FOSTER posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/07/07/leaked-video-gop-congressman-admits-his-party-wants-chaos-and-inability-get-stuff In Leaked Video, GOP Congressman Admits His Party Wants 'Chaos and Inability to Get Stuff Done' we need to get manchin and sinema to vote for all the things we need now gop literally just outright said what they arte doing</quote> Does that even matter? Bitch Mitch publicly said that he is going to stonewall everything the demorcrats do and he said that months ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/07/21 1:33:59 PM #10:	krazychao5 posted... do they, though? yes? --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:955838799] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>krazychao5 posted... </cite> <quote>do they, though?</quote>yes? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 07/07/21 1:35:10 PM #11:	krazychao5 posted... do they, though? been hearing this rhetoric for decades yet nothing to show https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:955838838] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>krazychao5 posted... </cite> <quote>do they, though? been hearing this rhetoric for decades yet nothing to show</quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 07/07/21 1:35:15 PM #12:	Tyranthraxus posted... Yeah the left wants extreme authoritarian measures like expanded voting rights, restoration of voting rights to ex cons, legalized drugs, more police oversight, and taxing the 1% That's not the left, that's the Democratic party that wants all of that. The left wants chaos, violence, more crime, and socialism. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:955838840] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> Yeah the left wants extreme authoritarian measures like expanded voting rights, restoration of voting rights to ex cons, legalized drugs, more police oversight, and taxing the 1% </quote> That's not the left, that's the Democratic party that wants all of that. The left wants chaos, violence, more crime, and socialism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 07/07/21 1:36:23 PM #13:	We can agree certain things are bad. For example, animal abuse. But conservatives just seem to think more things are bad on average than a liberal. Thus they're 'more controlling' <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:955838874] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>We can agree certain things are bad. For example, animal abuse. But conservatives just seem to think more things are bad on average than a liberal. Thus they're 'more controlling'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/07/21 1:36:24 PM #14:	Conservatives want to force everyone to live how they (conservatives) think everyone should live. They say they believe in freedom to do anything you want. But they really mean freedom to do anything you want, as long as it's what the conservatives want you to want <cite>Zikten posted [p:955838875] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Conservatives want to force everyone to live how they (conservatives) think everyone should live. They say they believe in freedom to do anything you want. But they really mean freedom to do anything you want, as long as it's what the conservatives want you to want</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/07/21 1:38:22 PM #15:	Hop103 posted... The left wants chaos, violence, more crime, and socialism. I haven't heard of this? Can you explain it a bit? --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:955838933] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>The left wants chaos, violence, more crime, and socialism.</quote>I haven't heard of this? Can you explain it a bit? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 07/07/21 1:38:55 PM #16:	Doom_Art posted... b0tH sIdEs Doom_Art posted... b0tH sIdEs I'm not even taking any side here at all, I don't care enough. I just happen to be surrounded by conservatives and I'm telling you what they think --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:955838950] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>b0tH sIdEs</quote> Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>b0tH sIdEs</quote>I'm not even taking any side here at all, I don't care enough. I just happen to be surrounded by conservatives and I'm telling you what they think </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 07/07/21 1:43:28 PM #17:	Doom_Art posted... I haven't heard of this? Can you explain it a bit? Just look at San Fransisco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XarBbMIxk5o This is due to a leftist law that makes petty theft almost nonpunishable. They also have a poop problem and homeless problem as well, almost all of it caused by the left. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:955839078] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote> I haven't heard of this? Can you explain it a bit? </quote> Just look at San Fransisco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XarBbMIxk5o This is due to a leftist law that makes petty theft almost nonpunishable. They also have a poop problem and homeless problem as well, almost all of it caused by the left.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/07/21 1:45:08 PM #18:	but the left always deflecting <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:955839128] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>but the left always deflecting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/07/21 1:45:20 PM #19:	Hop103 posted... This is due to a leftist law that makes petty theft almost nonpunishable. Can you explain this a little? Hop103 posted... They also have a poop problem and homeless problem as well, almost all of it caused by the left. See now I'm not seeing what you're getting at here. Everyone poops, and even in places governed by conservatives there's usually homelessness, sometimes to a problematic degree. Can you explain a bit about how the left causes that? I'm just trying to wrap my head around it. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:955839133] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>This is due to a leftist law that makes petty theft almost nonpunishable.</quote>Can you explain this a little? Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>They also have a poop problem and homeless problem as well, almost all of it caused by the left.</quote>See now I'm not seeing what you're getting at here. Everyone poops, and even in places governed by conservatives there's usually homelessness, sometimes to a problematic degree. Can you explain a bit about how the left causes that? I'm just trying to wrap my head around it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/07/21 1:45:43 PM #20:	Yeah but the left bans people on Twitter, so do they really have a leg to stand on?? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:955839147] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Yeah but the left bans people on Twitter, so do they really have a leg to stand on?? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CE_gonna_CE 07/07/21 1:45:54 PM #21:	Im not conservative, but can say that for all of the Hispanic GOP supporters in my family, its all due to the linkage between religion and conservatism. Pretty well outlined by the results in this article: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/11/15/republicans-and-democrats-agree-religions-influence-is-waning-but-differ-in-their-reactions/ Something to be said about blindly respecting authority and being God-fearing. --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1531-food-delivery-services-general <cite>CE_gonna_CE posted [p:955839152] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Im not conservative, but can say that for all of the Hispanic GOP supporters in my family, its all due to the linkage between religion and conservatism. Pretty well outlined by the results in this article: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/11/15/republicans-and-democrats-agree-religions-influence-is-waning-but-differ-in-their-reactions/ Something to be said about blindly respecting authority and being God-fearing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 07/07/21 1:47:01 PM #22:	I don't poop --- Common sense baked a funk cookie - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:955839187] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>I don't poop </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 07/07/21 1:47:06 PM #23:	Doom_Art posted... Asking conservatives in good faith Looking to have a civil discussion I don't believe this for a god damn second and neither do you. --- https://imgur.com/AUXKMK4 <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:955839188] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>Asking conservatives in good faith Looking to have a civil discussion</quote> I don't believe this for a god damn second and neither do you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 07/07/21 1:47:47 PM #24:	Doom_Art posted... Looking to have a civil discussion. Doom_Art posted... b0tH sIdEs <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:955839212] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>Looking to have a civil discussion.</quote> Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>b0tH sIdEs</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 07/07/21 1:48:01 PM #25:	can someone answer the topic without bringing up "the left" or can conservatives only exist as an opposition but never actually for something? --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:955839219] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>can someone answer the topic without bringing up "the left" or can conservatives only exist as an opposition but never actually for something? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 07/07/21 1:48:54 PM #26:	Hop103 posted... The left wants chaos, violence, more crime, and socialism. The people who went to kill the vice president and name Trump king were not antifa. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:955839249] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted...</cite><quote>The left wants chaos, violence, more crime, and socialism.</quote>The people who went to kill the vice president and name Trump king were not antifa.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/07/21 1:49:23 PM #27:	ThyCorndog posted... can someone answer the topic without bringing up "the left" or can conservatives only exist as an opposition but never actually for something? thats all they do but the left they have no talking points what so ever <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:955839269] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted... </cite> <quote>can someone answer the topic without bringing up "the left" or can conservatives only exist as an opposition but never actually for something?</quote>thats all they do but the left they have no talking points what so ever </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dj1200 07/07/21 1:50:58 PM #28:	Hop103 posted... Just look at San Fransisco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XarBbMIxk5o This is due to a leftist law that makes petty theft almost nonpunishable. They also have a poop problem and homeless problem as well, almost all of it caused by the left. I don't know why SF doesn't just put more accessible bathrooms around. Surely that's cheaper than hiring people to clean human poop, right? --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies <cite>dj1200 posted [p:955839317] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>Just look at San Fransisco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XarBbMIxk5o This is due to a leftist law that makes petty theft almost nonpunishable. They also have a poop problem and homeless problem as well, almost all of it caused by the left.</quote> I don't know why SF doesn't just put more accessible bathrooms around. Surely that's cheaper than hiring people to clean human poop, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dat_Cracka_Jax 07/07/21 1:55:45 PM #29:	Doom_Art posted... Like for a group that seems to preach individual liberty and responsibility they sure seem to be pretty all about controlling certain things. Since I don't expect much response on CE, I'll try to play devil's advocate. What are the certain things you are specifically referring to in regard to conservatives controlling them --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:955839472] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>Like for a group that seems to preach individual liberty and responsibility they sure seem to be pretty all about controlling certain things.</quote>Since I don't expect much response on CE, I'll try to play devil's advocate. What are the certain things you are specifically referring to in regard to conservatives controlling them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tiornys 07/07/21 2:10:46 PM #30:	Not a conservative, but here's why: Fear tends to increase authoritarian tendencies The rapid pace of change in the modern world is a source of fear for most conservatives On top of that, conservative news sources like Fox News have been pushing fear-inducing narratives for decades Also, since the late '70's the Republicans have been deliberately courting the largest existing organized mass of people inclined towards authoritarianism in America (evangelical Christians) c.f The Authoritarians by Bob Altemeyer for sourcing and more detail on the first two points: https://theauthoritarians.org/ <cite>tiornys posted [p:955839952] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Not a conservative, but here's why: Fear tends to increase authoritarian tendenciesThe rapid pace of change in the modern world is a source of fear for most conservativesOn top of that, conservative news sources like Fox News have been pushing fear-inducing narratives for decadesAlso, since the late '70's the Republicans have been deliberately courting the largest existing organized mass of people inclined towards authoritarianism in America (evangelical Christians) c.f The Authoritarians by Bob Altemeyer for sourcing and more detail on the first two points: https://theauthoritarians.org/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 07/07/21 2:13:12 PM #31:	It's about being right. People don't like to admit that they're wrong, so they'll double down. Conservatives have stuck with team red, and they'll go down with the ship if they have to. It's not really about ideals. --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:955840014] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>It's about being right. People don't like to admit that they're wrong, so they'll double down. Conservatives have stuck with team red, and they'll go down with the ship if they have to. It's not really about ideals. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 07/07/21 2:14:37 PM #32:	Attempting to engage in good faith with conservatives is an utter waste of time and effort --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:955840072] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Attempting to engage in good faith with conservatives is an utter waste of time and effort</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 07/07/21 2:15:34 PM #33:	Go ask r/conservatives. You're not going to get a real answer here if you want a conservative opinion. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:955840107] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Go ask r/conservatives. You're not going to get a real answer here if you want a conservative opinion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 07/07/21 2:16:35 PM #34:	Squall28 posted... Go ask r/conservatives. You're not going to get a real answer here if you want a conservative opinion. The only thing to do in that situation is to get out a stopwatch and time how long it takes for you to get banned for asking a question of them. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:955840142] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote> Go ask r/conservatives. You're not going to get a real answer here if you want a conservative opinion.</quote> The only thing to do in that situation is to get out a stopwatch and time how long it takes for you to get banned for asking a question of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 07/07/21 2:16:58 PM #35:	"Don't Tread On Me!" treads on democrats --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:955840153] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>"Don't Tread On Me!" treads on democrats </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 07/07/21 2:18:40 PM #36:	EndOfDiscOne posted... and they'll go down with the ship if they have to promise? --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! My only skills are brick throwing and frog being! <cite>Medussa posted [p:955840206] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>EndOfDiscOne posted... </cite> <quote>and they'll go down with the ship if they have to</quote> promise? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 07/07/21 2:19:20 PM #37:	Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Since I don't expect much response on CE, I'll try to play devil's advocate. What are the certain things you are specifically referring to in regard to conservatives controlling them Drugs Religion Abortion Gate keeping patriotism The troops that they dont care about --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's RIP SMV 2/25/21 <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:955840228] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote> Since I don't expect much response on CE, I'll try to play devil's advocate. What are the certain things you are specifically referring to in regard to conservatives controlling them </quote> Drugs Religion Abortion Gate keeping patriotism The troops that they dont care about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 07/07/21 6:31:40 PM #38:	a leftist CEman made a certain comment the other day, and I'd like to know where you stand on it TC. it was something to the effect of: "suspend all rights, send the National Guard to go door to door to vaccinate everyone" do you agree with this thinking? --- It's obvious all religions are fundamentally true. <cite>pure_temper posted [p:955848756] in Asking con... [t:79552909]...</cite> <quote>a leftist CEman made a certain comment the other day, and I'd like to know where you stand on it TC. it was something to the effect of: "suspend all rights, send the National Guard to go door to door to vaccinate everyone" do you agree with this thinking? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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