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wackyteen
07/07/21 3:39:07 PM
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Flippy twirly fast







I watched Attack of the Clones this morning.

I remember the Yoda/Dooku fight being a popular, if controversial, scene. What does CE think?

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DeadBankerDream
07/07/21 3:41:24 PM
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It's nonsensical gibberish made by a man who gets an erection from CGI.

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Gobstoppers12
07/07/21 3:43:16 PM
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I think he does too many silly flips. I'd like it better if he was more of an undisputed master of tranquility, just effortlessly parrying, blocking, countering, etc., whilst standing almost completely still.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
07/07/21 3:44:16 PM
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I still think it's pretty intimidating to see so many flips and spins. How you supposed to know where to block
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DeadBankerDream
07/07/21 3:45:04 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
I still think it's pretty intimidating to see so many flips and spins. How you supposed to know where to block
By using your superior reach to not have to.

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Medussa
07/07/21 3:45:30 PM
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i liked it. but i still wish he would have controlled his saber with the force, instead of his hand.

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monkmith
07/07/21 3:45:52 PM
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the fact he screams while doing it is great.

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ThePrinceFish
07/07/21 3:47:06 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
I still think it's pretty intimidating to see so many flips and spins. How you supposed to know where to block
that's how Sheev wrecked the Jedi Masters who came to arrest him only Windu was prepared for the old man to come screeching and corkscrewing through the air like an insane Force powered bat

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Xavier_On_High
07/07/21 3:47:53 PM
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Kinda defeated the point of Yoda for me. I always imagined his style would be entirely Force-based.

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Gobstoppers12
07/07/21 3:48:55 PM
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I think the main reason it annoys me is because it contradicts Yoda's own teachings in ESB.

"A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."

Smash cut to Yoda vs. Dooku where he's just yelling and twirling and shit

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
07/07/21 3:53:08 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I think the main reason it annoys me is because it contradicts Yoda's own teachings in ESB.

"A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."

Smash cut to Yoda vs. Dooku where he's just yelling and twirling and shit
Palpatine's Clone War really fucked shit up and turned the galaxy upside down
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wackyteen
07/07/21 3:54:29 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I think the main reason it annoys me is because it contradicts Yoda's own teachings in ESB.

"A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."

Smash cut to Yoda vs. Dooku where he's just yelling and twirling and shit
I always took that to mean, don't start shit. Not "never fight"

Or "don't use the force as a means to gain power (that's the path to the dark side)"

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
07/07/21 3:56:23 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I think the main reason it annoys me is because it contradicts Yoda's own teachings in ESB.

"A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."

Smash cut to Yoda vs. Dooku where he's just yelling and twirling and shit
He was defending two people both who were unable to fight at that moment, Obi-Wan and Anakin. Dooku would have killed them had Yoda not shown up.


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Gobstoppers12
07/07/21 3:58:47 PM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
He was defending two people both who were unable to fight at that moment, Obi-Wan and Anakin. Dooku would have killed them had Yoda not shown up.
That's the technicality of it, sure. You can make that argument if you really want to.

He defended them with the force first. He was clearly winning that standoff. Having him pull a lightsaber and go crazy with it was a step too far and ruined the mystique of the character.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
07/07/21 4:00:41 PM
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I also believe Yoda should have been controlling his saber via the force or telepathic ability to show how advance he was.

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Lokison
07/07/21 4:02:41 PM
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I loved it. I always wanted to see what Yoda wielding a Lightsaber would look like considering his stature.

Turns out he force jumps a lot and makes for a very unpredictable opponent.

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wackyteen
07/07/21 4:04:53 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
That's the technicality of it, sure. You can make that argument if you really want to.

He defended them with the force first. He was clearly winning that standoff. Having him pull a lightsaber and go crazy with it was a step too far and ruined the mystique of the character.
Dooku drew his saber first. "Clearly this contest cannot be decided by our knowledge of the force, but by our skill with a lightsaber."

Dooku forced Yoda's hand into a Saber fight.

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
I also believe Yoda should have been controlling his saber via the force or telepathic ability to show how advance he was.

Think it should've been both tbh. Would've further the sense made by Dooku resorting to causing the pillar to fall and his quickness to leave since it would've clearly demonstrated that Dooku was outmatched by his former master.

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Schwarz
07/07/21 4:05:50 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
effortlessly parrying, blocking, countering, etc., whilst standing almost completely still.
Yoda Seagal

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Shablagoo
07/07/21 4:08:01 PM
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OT saber fights > all, it was like watching samurai face off.

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Zikten
07/07/21 4:09:22 PM
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Yoda fighting is easily the worst thing in the prequels.
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wackyteen
07/07/21 4:11:10 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
OT saber fights > all, it was like watching samurai face off.
That was the idea when they were making the OT.

Though in the context of a galaxy spanning society of Jedi, I don't think it'd have made sense for them to adhere strictly to such a (more or less) stiff fighting style.

Also you can still explain off the change from PT to OT in-universe by saying that Obi-Wan was older and not nearly as mobile, that Vader was restricted by his mechanical parts, and that Luke was simply untrained.

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Guide
07/07/21 4:12:05 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I think the main reason it annoys me is because it contradicts Yoda's own teachings in ESB.

"A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."

Smash cut to Yoda vs. Dooku where he's just yelling and twirling and shit

I feel that's more a general concept, but that could be bias. It's often a fallacy of approach for a lot of people, in combat sports and even fighting games, that you can just rely on "defense and counters". The thing is that there are several situations, macro and micro, where you can be put into a position where there is no defense or counter. You attack both to win and to prevent those situations from happening.

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Lairen
07/07/21 4:17:17 PM
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I wanted him to control 4 sabers with his mind tbh

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