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Zikten
07/08/21 1:24:12 AM
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People go to door to door and inform non vaccinated people they need to get it right away (they even have the option of taking then and there from the person who is visiting them)

If they refuse they pay a fine of 1,000 dollars

You will get visited again in a week if you paid the fine. If you still haven't gotten vaccinated now you have to pay 2,000 dollars. And so on forever until you are bankrupt

If you refuse to pay any of these fines you go to prison. There a prison doctor will forcibly vaccinate you and then toss you in a cell for 1 year
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DespondentDeity
07/08/21 1:25:02 AM
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So fascism?

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Zikten
07/08/21 1:26:06 AM
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DespondentDeity posted...
So fascism?

If you want to call it that, it's better than millions of people dying
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Questionmarktarius
07/08/21 1:28:32 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts
Already figured out, well over a hundred years ago.
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Fossil
07/08/21 1:33:54 AM
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Zikten
07/08/21 1:47:44 AM
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Fossil posted...
https://i.imgur.com/gf0a8Yr.gif

Actually they say history has it wrong. When the emperor gave a thumbs down he was saying "don't kill him"

Thumbs up meant "kill him"

So you just agreed with my plan
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YugiNoob
07/08/21 1:51:24 AM
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Zikten posted...
Actually they say history has it wrong. When the emperor gave a thumbs down he was saying "don't kill him"

Thumbs up meant "kill him"

So you just agreed with my plan
Yup. Thumbs down meant to lower your weapon. Thumbs up meant to pierce the loser :3

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/21 1:53:14 AM
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Zikten posted...
Actually they say history has it wrong. When the emperor gave a thumbs down he was saying "don't kill him"

Thumbs up meant "kill him"
This is why the state should never have authority over who lives and who dies.
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bigtiggie23
07/08/21 1:54:29 AM
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Go door to door, asking if you can give people in the house an injection, see how that goes.
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Zikten
07/08/21 1:55:25 AM
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bigtiggie23 posted...
Go door to door, asking if you can give people in the house an injection, see how that goes.

The people knocking on doors would have at least 2 armed cops or fbi agents or something with them
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Questionmarktarius
07/08/21 1:56:46 AM
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bigtiggie23 posted...
Go door to door, asking if you can give people in the house an injection, see how that goes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp-pU8TFsg0
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Middle hope
07/08/21 1:56:50 AM
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This line of thinking is what fuels anti vaxxers to go even harder on the paint.

This is the exact thing they are afraid of happening.

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Kolibri X
07/08/21 1:59:36 AM
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Enjoy your medical tyranny power fantasy but I will never get the jab. You hear me? NEV-UUUUR. Bwhahaha!

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Payzmaykr
07/08/21 1:59:36 AM
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Tell them they cant go back to work until they have a vaccination card. Simple as that. No government checks until you prove that youre vaccinated, too. Vaccinated people should also get tax breaks.
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ZMythos
07/08/21 2:02:09 AM
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I don't think you can go about it by punishing the crazi- uhh I mean "vaccine skeptics" (since we gotta be PC here).

But offering a tax credit or a stimulus check to those who are vaccinated would be a good idea.

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/21 2:03:47 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Tell them they cant go back to work until they have a vaccination card.
All this does, is create fucktons of some sort of MAGAmish communities.
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PoundGarden
07/08/21 2:07:47 AM
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If they do not want to be a responsible member of society, effectively remove them from society (people with medical exemptions such as the immuno suppressed excluded, of course).

  • Deny them acces to state/gov buildings
  • deny them acces to state/gov services
  • deny them acces to state/gov land
  • deny them vehicle registration
  • deny them access to state/gov jobs
  • deny them access to gov health care
  • deny them insurance or quadruple their premiums
  • deny them entry to state colleges
There are ways to force someone to do something without the use of force :)

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/21 2:09:04 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
Deny them acces to state/gov buildings
deny them acces to state/gov services
deny them acces to state/gov land
deny them vehicle registration
deny them access to state/gov jobs
deny them access to gov health care
deny them insurance or quadruple their premiums
deny them entry to state colleges
Again, you're just making MAGAmish communities.
You are reinforcing beliefs of people who never wanted those anyway.
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R1masher
07/08/21 2:12:21 AM
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Do you say this shit out loud to humans

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/21 2:13:31 AM
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R1masher posted...
Do you say this shit out loud to humans
cynicism is a hell of a drug
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PoundGarden
07/08/21 2:14:16 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Again, you're just making MAGAmish communities.
You are reinforcing beliefs of people who never wanted those anyway.

  1. Are we really going to be upset if MAGAts self segregate? Seems like a win-win to me.
  2. FUCK what they want. This pandemic is never going to end and they are basically the sole reason it's dragged on this long and we've lost as many as we have.

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/21 2:15:39 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
1. Are we really going to be upset if MAGAts self segregate? Seems like a win-win to me.
2. FUCK what they want. This pandemic is never going to end and they are basically the sole reason it's dragged on this long and we've lost as many as we have.
I'm not arguing against either of those points.
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R1masher
07/08/21 2:15:44 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
cynicism is a hell of a drug

Was that confirming what I meant for the tc or you confirm it as if it was meant for you?

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AldousIsDead
07/08/21 2:15:53 AM
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If there are any holdouts left on CE, please get vaccinated for your own sake. I had a relatively mild case of covid and it has destroyed my heart and left me with ED. If it doesn't kill you it can still cripple you permanently.

I know I keep posting this but it bears repeating.

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/21 2:16:03 AM
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R1masher posted...
Was that confirming what I meant for the tc or you confirm it as if it was meant for you?
yes
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Paragon21XX
07/08/21 2:16:39 AM
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All fascist ideas are hereby forbidden.

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Zikten
07/08/21 2:17:19 AM
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I've never had a roommate. That was someone else. But I do try to avoid talking to real life humans as much as possible with the exception of immediate family
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R1masher
07/08/21 2:18:45 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
yes

i thought as much, havent talked to a human in a minute so I was acting a fool and doubting myself

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archedsoul
07/08/21 2:20:24 AM
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Are many of you so out of touch that you think it's only MAGAs not vaccinating in large numbers?

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PoundGarden
07/08/21 2:20:58 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I'm not arguing against either of those points.

High Five

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/21 2:21:35 AM
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R1masher posted...
i thought as much, havent talked to a human in a minute so I was acting a fool and doubting myself
If you've been here for very long, you'd know that I immediately posit the worst-case for any ideas.
That's just what I do.

Sorry about that.
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David1988
07/08/21 2:21:48 AM
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Probably the most reasonable plan Ive heard of thus far

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/21 2:23:19 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
High Five
See #34.
You should know that by now.
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PoundGarden
07/08/21 2:25:20 AM
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David1988 posted...
Probably the most reasonable plan Ive heard of thus far

Eh. I can see them fighting it on the grounds of "Congress shall pass no tax..." and probably winning. Best case they tie up the courts with their bullshit and lose, worst case they win and get a bunch of money so now we have rich hillbilly MAGAts.

I think simply denying them any level of state/gov services and denying access to any state/gov properties is the safer way to go. And insurance companies can basically do wtfever they want, so I like the idea of hitting them in the pockets but it has to be as legal and within the guidelines of the constitution as possible.

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R1masher
07/08/21 2:26:27 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If you've been here for very long, you'd know that I immediately posit the worst-case for any ideas.
That's just what I do.

Sorry about that.

If youve been here for a minute youd know I read between the lies

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/21 2:28:11 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
Eh. I can see them fighting it on the grounds of "Congress shall pass no tax..."
Jacobsen v. Mass. ended this argument.

United States can absolutely compel vaccination. It just hasn't yet this time, for some unknown reason.
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PoundGarden
07/08/21 2:30:08 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Jacobsen v. Mass. ended this argument.

United States can absolutely compel vaccination. It just hasn't yet this time, for some unknown reason.

I'm too drunk to look into it, but you seeeem like you know what you're talking about so LOL fuck them then. Tax the redhats too until they vaccinate

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/21 2:32:02 AM
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R1masher posted...
If youve been here for a minute youd know I read between the lies
I'm always honest. It's just that my shitposting is covered in layers of cynicism and hyperbole.

Again, sorry about that.
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Arcanine2009
07/08/21 10:17:38 AM
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no that's not right. At the very least require them to wear them masks and bar then from certain places without one.

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Choco
07/08/21 10:31:14 AM
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R1masher
07/08/21 10:34:20 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I'm always honest. It's just that my shitposting is covered in layers of cynicism and hyperbole.

Again, sorry about that.

you arent sorry and your posts are abrasive, but subconsciously true is what Im reading

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pure_temper
07/08/21 10:34:29 AM
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shut up Zikten

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Bleuets
07/08/21 10:37:45 AM
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How about this, go door to door and give people $1,000 for getting the vaccine . Everyone wins.
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Giant_Aspirin
07/08/21 10:38:06 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
If they do not want to be a responsible member of society, effectively remove them from society (people with medical exemptions such as the immuno suppressed excluded, of course).

* Deny them acces to state/gov buildings
* deny them acces to state/gov services
* deny them acces to state/gov land
* deny them vehicle registration
* deny them access to state/gov jobs
* deny them access to gov health care
* deny them insurance or quadruple their premiums
* deny them entry to state colleges
There are ways to force someone to do something without the use of force :)

this is the way. also require vaccines for public schools (which we already do).

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Bleuets
07/08/21 10:40:39 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
this is the way. also require vaccines for public schools (which we already do).

Well thats not ever gonna happen, so how about we try being realistic?
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Giant_Aspirin
07/08/21 10:41:35 AM
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Bleuets posted...
Well thats not ever gonna happen, so how about we try being realistic?

mandating covid vaccines to attend public schools is never gonna happen, you say? how come? we already require multiple vaccines already, why is the covid one any different?

sorry, but if you dont care about the health and safety of everyone else around you, stay in home school. actually, just stay home, period, because nobody wants to be around you.

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Bleuets
07/08/21 10:45:22 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
mandating covid vaccines to attend public schools is never gonna happen, you say? how come? we already require multiple vaccines already, why is the covid one any different?

sorry, but if you dont care about the health and safety of everyone else around you, stay in home school. actually, just stay home, period, because nobody wants to be around you.

Why? Because it hasnt happened and people have already moved on. Tell me Im wrong. I just went to a concert last night with over 6k people in attendance, there were no vaccine passports, there was nothing of the sort. The truth is if this sort of thing were to happen it would have already happened. You know Im right.

So, you can either stop lying to yourself and say yup probably not gonna happen. Or live in a dream world where you think one day this vaccine will become mandatory and people will be forced to get it. Your choice.
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Giant_Aspirin
07/08/21 10:49:00 AM
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Bleuets posted...
Or live in a dream world where you think one day this vaccine will become mandatory and people will be forced to get it. Your choice.

never said forced. just require it for public schools, which we do already. are you intentionally being disingenuous with that argument?

you really think "people have moved on"? i almost think there's no point in trying to have a rational conversation with you about this if you're gonna live in such denial.

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