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ChiangKaishek 07/09/21 11:39:03 PM #1:	https://www.reuters.com/world/us/sticker-campaign-targets-slavery-roots-new-york-city-2021-07-07/ July 7 (Reuters) - A New York-based campaign is drawing attention to prominent New Yorkers whose names are emblazoned on streets, schools, and storefronts and who it says had ties to slavery. The campaign - called 'Slavers of New York' - says there are at least 500 sites that feature the names of figures who owned slaves. Many of the slaveowners date from the 17th century when New York was New Amsterdam, including colonial governor Peter Stuyvesant and the Cortelyou family. The group comprises artists, educators, activists and researchers, said Ada Reso, campaign co-founder. It places stickers through Brooklyn to draw attention to the mostly unknown connections, and campaigns on social media. The sticker campaign uses historical data "to educate New Yorkers about the city, streets and neighborhoods they live in and around," Reso said. "If more people knew what their street was named for, or who it was named for, we can then foster another conversation about what it looks like to name and claim your neighborhood," she said. At a debate last month ahead of primary elections for New York City mayor, the leading Democratic candidates agreed the city should consider renaming sites named after slaveholders. The mayor's office did not return a request for comment. Campaign co-founder, comedian Elsa Eli Waithe, said that during the pandemic she had come across census documents online that showed New Yorkers and the numbers of slaves they owned. New York had slaves spanning from its days as a Dutch colony until as late as 1827, when the last were freed. "I just wondered who else knew this, who else had this information? Because it was kind of new information to me," Waithe said. The campaign then turned to the Black-owned and Brooklyn-based sticker shop, Comik Ink, for production. The result is a sticker modeled on New York's green street signs, which refers to how many slaves the named people owned... ...they have put up more than a thousand so far and are planning to spread out to New York's other four boroughs. "A lot of these streets run through Black and brown neighborhoods and the people walking these neighborhoods are still saying a slave owner's name. And it's unbeknownst to them," said Waithe. <cite>ChiangKaishek posted [p:955929808] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reuters.com/world/us/sticker-campaign-targets-slavery-roots-new-york-city-2021-07-07/ July 7 (Reuters) - A New York-based campaign is drawing attention to prominent New Yorkers whose names are emblazoned on streets, schools, and storefronts and who it says had ties to slavery. The campaign - called 'Slavers of New York' - says there are at least 500 sites that feature the names of figures who owned slaves. Many of the slaveowners date from the 17th century when New York was New Amsterdam, including colonial governor Peter Stuyvesant and the Cortelyou family. The group comprises artists, educators, activists and researchers, said Ada Reso, campaign co-founder. It places stickers through Brooklyn to draw attention to the mostly unknown connections, and campaigns on social media. The sticker campaign uses historical data "to educate New Yorkers about the city, streets and neighborhoods they live in and around," Reso said. "If more people knew what their street was named for, or who it was named for, we can then foster another conversation about what it looks like to name and claim your neighborhood," she said. At a debate last month ahead of primary elections for New York City mayor, the leading Democratic candidates agreed the city should consider renaming sites named after slaveholders. The mayor's office did not return a request for comment. Campaign co-founder, comedian Elsa Eli Waithe, said that during the pandemic she had come across census documents online that showed New Yorkers and the numbers of slaves they owned. New York had slaves spanning from its days as a Dutch colony until as late as 1827, when the last were freed. "I just wondered who else knew this, who else had this information? Because it was kind of new information to me," Waithe said. The campaign then turned to the Black-owned and Brooklyn-based sticker shop, Comik Ink, for production. The result is a sticker modeled on New York's green street signs, which refers to how many slaves the named people owned... ...they have put up more than a thousand so far and are planning to spread out to New York's other four boroughs. "A lot of these streets run through Black and brown neighborhoods and the people walking these neighborhoods are still saying a slave owner's name. And it's unbeknownst to them," said Waithe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeoRavus 07/09/21 11:41:12 PM #3:	The Duke of York was a slave trader. They need to rename the whole state. --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:955929864] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>The Duke of York was a slave trader. They need to rename the whole state. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChiangKaishek 07/09/21 11:41:27 PM #4:	mobilebloechel posted... ...everything named in the early 1800's is gonna fall under that category. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-myth-liberal-north-erases-long-history-white-violence-180975661/ How the Myth of a Liberal North Erases a Long History of White Violence Anti-black racism has terrorized African Americans throughout the nations history, regardless of where in the country they lived John Langston was running through a neighborhood in ruins. Burned homes and businesses were still smoking, their windows shattered. Langston was only 12 years old, but he was determined to save his brothers lives. He had spent the night in a safe house, sheltering from the white mobs that had attacked the citys African American neighborhood. Sleep must have been difficult that night, especially after a cannon was repeatedly fired. The cannon had been stolen from the federal armory by the white mob, alongside guns and bullets, so they could go to war against Black people. Langston awoke to worse news. The mayor had ordered all white men in the city to round up any surviving Black men they found and throw them in jail. As John Langston would later write, swarms of improvised police-officers appeared in every quarter, armed with power and commission to arrest every colored man who could be found. As soon as Langston had heard this, he ran out the back door of the safe house to find his brothers to try to warn them. When a group of armed white men saw Langston, they shouted at him to stop, but he refused, willing to risk everything to save his brothers. There is a toxic myth that encourages white people in the North to see themselves as free from racism and erases African Americans from the pre-Civil War North, where they are still being told that they dont belong. What Langston experienced was not the massacre in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in 1921 or Rosewood, Florida, in 1923this was Cincinnati, Ohio, in 1841, 20 years before the Civil War broke out. This was the third such racist attack against African Americans in Cincinnati in 12 years. Cincinnati was not alone. Between 1829 and 1841 white northerners had been rising up against their most successful African American neighbors, burning and destroying churches, businesses, schools, orphanages, meetings halls, farms, and entire communities. These were highly organized actions instigated by some of the most wealthy and most educated white citizens in the North. As a white gentleman in the pretty rural village of Canterbury, Connecticut, wrote in 1833, the colored people can never rise from their menial condition in our country; they ought not to be permitted to rise here. He wrote this after white members of his community tried to burn down an elite private academy for African American girls, while the students slept inside. One of the girls who survived that fire then made the long journey to Canaan, New Hampshire, where a few abolitionists were trying to establish an integrated school called the Noyes Academy. Canaan was a remote and lovely village but within months, white locals attacked that school. The white attackers brought in numerous teams of oxen attached to a chain they put around the school, and pulled it off its foundation, dragging it down the main street of Canaan. In 1834 there were even more riots against African Americans, most notably in New Haven, Connecticut, Philadelphia, and New York City. The mayor of New York allowed the destruction of African American homes and businesses to continue for days before finally calling out the state militia. This violence was not against buildings alone, but was accompanied by atrocities against African Americans, including rape and castration. African Americans in the North bravely continued to call for equality and the ending of slavery, while the highest officials in the land tried to encourage more massacres. As Lacy Ford revealed in his book Deliver Us from Evil, President Andrew Jacksons secretary of state, John Forsyth, wrote a letter asking Vice President Martin Van Burenborn and raised a New Yorkerto organize a little more mob discipline, adding, the sooner you set the imps to work the better. The violence continued; historian Leonard Richards makes a conservative estimate of at least 46 mobbings in Northern cities between 1834 and 1837. White leaders in Cincinnati gathered in speaking halls to encourage another attack against African Americans in that city in 1836. Ohio Congressman Robert Lytle helped to lead one of these rallies. As Leonard Richards noted in his book Gentlemen of Property and Standing, the words he thundered to his audience were so vile that even the local newspapers tried to clean them up, changing words and blanking them out, printing a quote that read that the Colonel urged the crowd to castrate the men and ____ the women! But the white people in the crowd did not hear this sanitized version; they heard a demand for atrocities, and soon there was another attack against African Americans in that city. Two years later Lytle was made Major General of the Ohio Militia. In 1838 Philadelphia again saw white people organize to destroy Black schools, churches, meeting halls, and printing presses, and then finally Pennsylvania Hall. Over 10,000 white people gathered to destroy the hall, one of the grandest in the city. Pennsylvania Hall was newly built in 1838 with public funds and was meant to be a national center for abolitionism and equal rights. Its upper floor had a beautiful auditorium that could seat 3,000 people. It had taken years of fund-raising by African Americans and sympathetic white people for the hall to be built, but it took just one night for it to be destroyed. This destruction was quickly followed by violence by white Pennsylvania politicians who rewrote the states constitution, excluding free African Americans from the right to vote. An overwhelming majority of white men in Pennsylvania enthusiastically voted for the new Constitution. This physical destruction of African American neighborhoods followed by the stealing of African Americans rights was a double-edged violence, and it was not unique to Pennsylvania. Back in 1833 in Canterbury, Connecticut, the girls managed to escape their school when it was set on fire, but soon all African Americans in Connecticut were made to suffer. White lawyers and politicians in Connecticut saw to that. A lawsuit brought against Prudence Crandall, director of the school, resulted in the highest court in Connecticut deciding that people of color, enslaved or free, were not citizens of the United States. White people could now pass any racist laws they pleased, including one making it illegal for any person of African descent to enter the state of Connecticut to be educated there. While the 1830s saw an intense period of this violence, white northerners had a long history of attempting to control the actions of Black people; they had been doing so since the colonial period when race-based slavery laws made all non-whites subjects of suspicion. In 1703 the Rhode Island General Assembly not only recognized race-based slavery, but criminalized all Black people and American Indians when they wrote... <cite>ChiangKaishek posted [p:955929872] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>mobilebloechel posted...</cite> <quote>...everything named in the early 1800's is gonna fall under that category. </quote> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-myth-liberal-north-erases-long-history-white-violence-180975661/ How the Myth of a Liberal North Erases a Long History of White Violence Anti-black racism has terrorized African Americans throughout the nations history, regardless of where in the country they lived John Langston was running through a neighborhood in ruins. Burned homes and businesses were still smoking, their windows shattered. Langston was only 12 years old, but he was determined to save his brothers lives. He had spent the night in a safe house, sheltering from the white mobs that had attacked the citys African American neighborhood. Sleep must have been difficult that night, especially after a cannon was repeatedly fired. The cannon had been stolen from the federal armory by the white mob, alongside guns and bullets, so they could go to war against Black people. Langston awoke to worse news. The mayor had ordered all white men in the city to round up any surviving Black men they found and throw them in jail. As John Langston would later write, swarms of improvised police-officers appeared in every quarter, armed with power and commission to arrest every colored man who could be found. As soon as Langston had heard this, he ran out the back door of the safe house to find his brothers to try to warn them. When a group of armed white men saw Langston, they shouted at him to stop, but he refused, willing to risk everything to save his brothers. There is a toxic myth that encourages white people in the North to see themselves as free from racism and erases African Americans from the pre-Civil War North, where they are still being told that they dont belong. What Langston experienced was not the massacre in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in 1921 or Rosewood, Florida, in 1923this was Cincinnati, Ohio, in 1841, 20 years before the Civil War broke out. This was the third such racist attack against African Americans in Cincinnati in 12 years. Cincinnati was not alone. Between 1829 and 1841 white northerners had been rising up against their most successful African American neighbors, burning and destroying churches, businesses, schools, orphanages, meetings halls, farms, and entire communities. These were highly organized actions instigated by some of the most wealthy and most educated white citizens in the North. As a white gentleman in the pretty rural village of Canterbury, Connecticut, wrote in 1833, the colored people can never rise from their menial condition in our country; they ought not to be permitted to rise here. He wrote this after white members of his community tried to burn down an elite private academy for African American girls, while the students slept inside. One of the girls who survived that fire then made the long journey to Canaan, New Hampshire, where a few abolitionists were trying to establish an integrated school called the Noyes Academy. Canaan was a remote and lovely village but within months, white locals attacked that school. The white attackers brought in numerous teams of oxen attached to a chain they put around the school, and pulled it off its foundation, dragging it down the main street of Canaan. In 1834 there were even more riots against African Americans, most notably in New Haven, Connecticut, Philadelphia, and New York City. The mayor of New York allowed the destruction of African American homes and businesses to continue for days before finally calling out the state militia. This violence was not against buildings alone, but was accompanied by atrocities against African Americans, including rape and castration. African Americans in the North bravely continued to call for equality and the ending of slavery, while the highest officials in the land tried to encourage more massacres. As Lacy Ford revealed in his book Deliver Us from Evil, President Andrew Jacksons secretary of state, John Forsyth, wrote a letter asking Vice President Martin Van Burenborn and raised a New Yorkerto organize a little more mob discipline, adding, the sooner you set the imps to work the better. The violence continued; historian Leonard Richards makes a conservative estimate of at least 46 mobbings in Northern cities between 1834 and 1837. White leaders in Cincinnati gathered in speaking halls to encourage another attack against African Americans in that city in 1836. Ohio Congressman Robert Lytle helped to lead one of these rallies. As Leonard Richards noted in his book Gentlemen of Property and Standing, the words he thundered to his audience were so vile that even the local newspapers tried to clean them up, changing words and blanking them out, printing a quote that read that the Colonel urged the crowd to castrate the men and ____ the women! But the white people in the crowd did not hear this sanitized version; they heard a demand for atrocities, and soon there was another attack against African Americans in that city. Two years later Lytle was made Major General of the Ohio Militia. In 1838 Philadelphia again saw white people organize to destroy Black schools, churches, meeting halls, and printing presses, and then finally Pennsylvania Hall. Over 10,000 white people gathered to destroy the hall, one of the grandest in the city. Pennsylvania Hall was newly built in 1838 with public funds and was meant to be a national center for abolitionism and equal rights. Its upper floor had a beautiful auditorium that could seat 3,000 people. It had taken years of fund-raising by African Americans and sympathetic white people for the hall to be built, but it took just one night for it to be destroyed. This destruction was quickly followed by violence by white Pennsylvania politicians who rewrote the states constitution, excluding free African Americans from the right to vote. An overwhelming majority of white men in Pennsylvania enthusiastically voted for the new Constitution. This physical destruction of African American neighborhoods followed by the stealing of African Americans rights was a double-edged violence, and it was not unique to Pennsylvania. Back in 1833 in Canterbury, Connecticut, the girls managed to escape their school when it was set on fire, but soon all African Americans in Connecticut were made to suffer. White lawyers and politicians in Connecticut saw to that. A lawsuit brought against Prudence Crandall, director of the school, resulted in the highest court in Connecticut deciding that people of color, enslaved or free, were not citizens of the United States. White people could now pass any racist laws they pleased, including one making it illegal for any person of African descent to enter the state of Connecticut to be educated there. While the 1830s saw an intense period of this violence, white northerners had a long history of attempting to control the actions of Black people; they had been doing so since the colonial period when race-based slavery laws made all non-whites subjects of suspicion. In 1703 the Rhode Island General Assembly not only recognized race-based slavery, but criminalized all Black people and American Indians when they wrote...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
What_ 07/09/21 11:45:10 PM #6:	Republicans will get mad about this though <cite>What_ posted [p:955929952] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Republicans will get mad about this though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanthaBreed 07/09/21 11:45:50 PM #7:	Colonel Sanders getting nervous <cite>BanthaBreed posted [p:955929973] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Colonel Sanders getting nervous </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/09/21 11:48:00 PM #8:	Meh. Why name things after dead people anyway? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:955930018] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Meh. Why name things after dead people anyway? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChiangKaishek 07/09/21 11:49:43 PM #9:	Also: https://africanamericangolfersdigest.com/15-major-corporations-you-never-knew-profited-from-slavery/ <cite>ChiangKaishek posted [p:955930067] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Also: https://africanamericangolfersdigest.com/15-major-corporations-you-never-knew-profited-from-slavery/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/09/21 11:51:24 PM #10:	ChiangKaishek posted... https://africanamericangolfersdigest.com/15-major-corporations-you-never-knew-profited-from-slavery/ I'd assume "literally all of them" <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:955930104] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>ChiangKaishek posted... </cite> <quote>https://africanamericangolfersdigest.com/15-major-corporations-you-never-knew-profited-from-slavery/</quote>I'd assume "literally all of them" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 07/09/21 11:52:00 PM #11:	Maybe they can target SMAL alts next --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:955930119] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Maybe they can target SMAL alts next</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChiangKaishek 07/09/21 11:56:29 PM #12:	https://youtu.be/C4CJs9-2KFA <cite>ChiangKaishek posted [p:955930234] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/C4CJs9-2KFA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 07/09/21 11:57:08 PM #13:	UnholyMudcrab posted... Maybe they can target SMAL alts next --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:955930254] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe they can target SMAL alts next</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/10/21 12:01:50 AM #14:	SMAL you need better hobbies lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:955930371] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>SMAL you need better hobbies lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Goatsensation 07/10/21 12:04:17 AM #15:	Doom_Art posted... SMAL you need better hobbies lol He has an interest in cryptids and shit, that'd be tons cooler than random racism every 3 days. --- Honour is dead, but I'll see what I can do. he/him <cite>Goatsensation posted [p:955930430] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>SMAL you need better hobbies lol</quote> He has an interest in cryptids and shit, that'd be tons cooler than random racism every 3 days. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KainWind 07/10/21 12:05:33 AM #16:	Just rename everything after the people they enslaved and move on. --- Momentai <cite>KainWind posted [p:955930456] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Just rename everything after the people they enslaved and move on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/10/21 12:05:54 AM #17:	Good? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:955930463] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Good? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/10/21 12:07:45 AM #18:	KainWind posted... Just rename everything after the people they enslaved and move on. Penny Lane would suddenly have an absurdly long name. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:955930498] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>KainWind posted... </cite> <quote>Just rename everything after the people they enslaved and move on.</quote>Penny Lane would suddenly have an absurdly long name. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 07/10/21 12:25:07 AM #19:	mobilebloechel posted... ...everything named in the early 1800's is gonna fall under that category. Okay, why do we need everything named after someone from the 1800s? --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:955930900] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>mobilebloechel posted... </cite> <quote>...everything named in the early 1800's is gonna fall under that category.</quote>Okay, why do we need everything named after someone from the 1800s? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 07/10/21 12:28:20 AM #20:	KainWind posted... Just rename everything after the people they enslaved and move on. Many people still carry the names of slave owners to this day. --- When Kaidou fails to keep up with Luffy in their next fight remember this conversation - MrDrMan <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:955930974] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>KainWind posted... </cite> <quote>Just rename everything after the people they enslaved and move on.</quote>Many people still carry the names of slave owners to this day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 07/10/21 12:30:01 AM #21:	"If more people knew what their street was named for, or who it was named for, we can then foster another conversation about what it looks like to name and claim your neighborhood," she said. Why should I be concerned with who or what the street is named after when half the cars which drive on it are named after a Nazi? <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:955931019] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote><quote>"If more people knew what their street was named for, or who it was named for, we can then foster another conversation about what it looks like to name and claim your neighborhood," she said.</quote> Why should I be concerned with who or what the street is named after when half the cars which drive on it are named after a Nazi? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChiangKaishek 07/10/21 12:31:13 AM #22:	FortuneCookie posted... half the cars which drive on it are named after a Nazi? It is funny how hippies love Hitler's car and celebrate smoking weed on his birthday. <cite>ChiangKaishek posted [p:955931055] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted...</cite> <quote>half the cars which drive on it are named after a Nazi?</quote> It is funny how hippies love Hitler's car and celebrate smoking weed on his birthday.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 07/10/21 12:32:09 AM #23:	This is dumb --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:955931076] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>This is dumb </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/10/21 12:35:07 AM #24:	joe40001 posted... This is dumb I cannot wait until the day the street I live off of is renamed to stop honoring Confederates. They already renamed all the schools near me. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:955931162] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>This is dumb</quote>I cannot wait until the day the street I live off of is renamed to stop honoring Confederates. They already renamed all the schools near me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 07/10/21 12:36:58 AM #25:	hockeybub89 posted... I cannot wait until the day the street I live off of is renamed to stop honoring Confederates. They already renamed all the schools near me. When did you even know it was named after confederates? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:955931204] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>I cannot wait until the day the street I live off of is renamed to stop honoring Confederates. They already renamed all the schools near me.</quote> When did you even know it was named after confederates? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 07/10/21 12:40:35 AM #26:	ChiangKaishek posted... https://youtu.be/C4CJs9-2KFA We need to rename Ben Affleck --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:955931279] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>ChiangKaishek posted... </cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/C4CJs9-2KFA</quote> We need to rename Ben Affleck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/10/21 12:41:40 AM #27:	UnholyMudcrab posted... Maybe they can target SMAL alts next Doom_Art posted... SMAL you need better hobbies lol More likely a pure_temper alt with a username like that. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:955931303] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe they can target SMAL alts next</quote> Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>SMAL you need better hobbies lol</quote> More likely a pure_temper alt with a username like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/10/21 12:43:38 AM #28:	YourDrunkFather posted... We need to rename Ben Affleck You think that's bad, look into former The Roots bass player Owen Biddle. A white dude, playing the bass in a "black" band, whose family was the slave trade a couple or three hundred years ago. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:955931356] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>YourDrunkFather posted... </cite> <quote>We need to rename Ben Affleck</quote>You think that's bad, look into former The Roots bass player Owen Biddle. A white dude, playing the bass in a "black" band, whose family was the slave trade a couple or three hundred years ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/10/21 12:44:19 AM #29:	joe40001 posted... When did you even know it was named after confederates? Roughly 20 years ago, long before I lived by it --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:955931372] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>When did you even know it was named after confederates?</quote>Roughly 20 years ago, long before I lived by it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 07/10/21 12:46:39 AM #30:	We need to rename everything to Ibram Kendi Blvd. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:955931416] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>We need to rename everything to Ibram Kendi Blvd. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/10/21 12:50:05 AM #31:	joe40001 posted... We need to rename everything to Ibram Kendi Blvd. You seem to really be upset for dead assholes --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:955931489] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>We need to rename everything to Ibram Kendi Blvd.</quote>You seem to really be upset for dead assholes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 07/10/21 12:53:41 AM #32:	hockeybub89 posted... You seem to really be upset for dead assholes No I just don't like erasing all of history that doesn't live up to today's standards. Also 99.99% of people aren't going to know of the streets/locations as anything but their names, and the names have historical context for things that happened in those places. If the street name is "yay slavery boulevard" sure I understand renaming it. But if it's something like Adams Street I definitely think there's a decent argument to say we should keep it for historical context to what happened there. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:955931551] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>You seem to really be upset for dead assholes</quote>No I just don't like erasing all of history that doesn't live up to today's standards. Also 99.99% of people aren't going to know of the streets/locations as anything but their names, and the names have historical context for things that happened in those places. If the street name is "yay slavery boulevard" sure I understand renaming it. But if it's something like Adams Street I definitely think there's a decent argument to say we should keep it for historical context to what happened there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/10/21 12:54:31 AM #33:	joe40001 posted... If the street name is "yay slavery boulevard" sure I understand renaming it. How many people even know, tho? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:955931573] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>If the street name is "yay slavery boulevard" sure I understand renaming it.</quote>How many people even know, tho? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 07/10/21 12:56:01 AM #34:	Or I'll put it this way, if it was a person who was exclusively known for racism then I can understand, but if it was someone who had historical significance but was a product of the time, that is different. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:955931605] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Or I'll put it this way, if it was a person who was exclusively known for racism then I can understand, but if it was someone who had historical significance but was a product of the time, that is different. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 07/10/21 12:56:21 AM #35:	Shut the fuck up joe, god damn. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:955931615] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Shut the fuck up joe, god damn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/10/21 12:57:06 AM #36:	Shezarr posted... Shut the fuck up joe, god damn. I dunno. It's nice not being the biggest ass anymore. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:955931632] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>Shut the fuck up joe, god damn.</quote>I dunno. It's nice not being the biggest ass anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/10/21 12:57:52 AM #37:	I am inclined to disagree with singling out the confederacy, as racial tensions (and laws) remained unequal for numerous generations after the emancipation. That being said, I am perfectly fine with renaming these landmarks after prominent figures of the North. The South succeeded. As well, there are things to be said about why they did so & the argument of states rights. Its a large & complex subject. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:955931650] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>I am inclined to disagree with singling out the confederacy, as racial tensions (and laws) remained unequal for numerous generations after the emancipation. That being said, I am perfectly fine with renaming these landmarks after prominent figures of the North. The South succeeded. As well, there are things to be said about why they did so & the argument of states rights. Its a large & complex subject. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChiangKaishek 07/10/21 2:58:23 AM #38:	Time to tear down statues around New York? <cite>ChiangKaishek posted [p:955933759] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Time to tear down statues around New York?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 07/10/21 3:00:15 AM #39:	Wait till they hear about the people we have on the munny --- https://imgur.com/EX6Md7k https://imgur.com/X4cT0Sp https://imgur.com/A3kur0P https://imgur.com/Hj9RrC6 <cite>Flauros posted [p:955933785] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Wait till they hear about the people we have on the munny </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 07/10/21 3:01:20 AM #40:	Well-meaning, but entirely stupid. It's an outright denial of the capacity for reclamation. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:955933798] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Well-meaning, but entirely stupid. It's an outright denial of the capacity for reclamation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 07/10/21 3:06:20 AM #41:	Guide posted... Well-meaning, but entirely stupid. It's an outright denial of the capacity for reclamation. Yep. I dislike the sentiment that everything is defined by its worst associate element and nothing else. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:955933890] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>Well-meaning, but entirely stupid. It's an outright denial of the capacity for reclamation.</quote>Yep. I dislike the sentiment that everything is defined by its worst associate element and nothing else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/10/21 3:07:34 AM #42:	joe40001 posted... I dislike the sentiment that everything is defined by its worst associate element and nothing else. cynicism is a hell of a drug <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:955933910] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>I dislike the sentiment that everything is defined by its worst associate element and nothing else.</quote>cynicism is a hell of a drug </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 07/10/21 3:09:40 AM #43:	Questionmarktarius posted... cynicism is a hell of a drug I am not convinced it is purely cynical, I think a big part of it is that people enjoy the feeling of power you have eliminating something that has been around for a while. It's probably kind of fun to tear down statues whether they are of overt racists or of progressives of the time who still aren't as woke as they should be today. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:955933945] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>cynicism is a hell of a drug</quote> I am not convinced it is purely cynical, I think a big part of it is that people enjoy the feeling of power you have eliminating something that has been around for a while. It's probably kind of fun to tear down statues whether they are of overt racists or of progressives of the time who still aren't as woke as they should be today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/10/21 3:10:28 AM #44:	I always thought immortalizing prominent figures of the Confederacy was undesirable. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:955933961] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>I always thought immortalizing prominent figures of the Confederacy was undesirable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/10/21 8:31:11 AM #45:	joe40001 posted... No I just don't like erasing all of history that doesn't live up to today's standards. Also 99.99% of people aren't going to know of the streets/locations as anything but their names, and the names have historical context for things that happened in those places. If the street name is "yay slavery boulevard" sure I understand renaming it. But if it's something like Adams Street I definitely think there's a decent argument to say we should keep it for historical context to what happened there. lol changing a name is not erasing history. Are you going to throw a fit if a sponsored stadium changes names and "erases history". Names and shit change all the time. History is literally why people want to change names. Fuck off with "but Lee-Davis is an aesthetically pleasing name and you can't prove who Lee and Davis are". --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:955937516] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>No I just don't like erasing all of history that doesn't live up to today's standards. Also 99.99% of people aren't going to know of the streets/locations as anything but their names, and the names have historical context for things that happened in those places. If the street name is "yay slavery boulevard" sure I understand renaming it. But if it's something like Adams Street I definitely think there's a decent argument to say we should keep it for historical context to what happened there.</quote>lol changing a name is not erasing history. Are you going to throw a fit if a sponsored stadium changes names and "erases history". Names and shit change all the time. History is literally why people want to change names. Fuck off with "but Lee-Davis is an aesthetically pleasing name and you can't prove who Lee and Davis are". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 07/10/21 8:36:14 AM #46:	hockeybub89 posted... lol changing a name is not erasing history. Are you going to throw a fit if a sponsored stadium changes names and "erases history". Names and shit change literally all the time. History is literally why people want to change names. Fuck off with "but Lee-Davis is an aesthetically name and you can't prove who Lee and Davis are". If something has been named something for 50-100+ years changing it arbitrarily is kinda silly. Like that's the name of the thing, Human history didn't start in 2015. If something changes (like if they had a street named after bill cosby) or if the person it was named after was like a pure racist and nothing else, yeah sure. But things like "idk about about this place, it's named after Thomas Jefferson" it's like bro, seriously? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:955937589] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>lol changing a name is not erasing history. Are you going to throw a fit if a sponsored stadium changes names and "erases history". Names and shit change literally all the time. History is literally why people want to change names. Fuck off with "but Lee-Davis is an aesthetically name and you can't prove who Lee and Davis are".</quote> If something has been named something for 50-100+ years changing it arbitrarily is kinda silly. Like that's the name of the thing, Human history didn't start in 2015. If something changes (like if they had a street named after bill cosby) or if the person it was named after was like a pure racist and nothing else, yeah sure. But things like "idk about about this place, it's named after Thomas Jefferson" it's like bro, seriously? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOnionKnight 07/10/21 8:46:21 AM #47:	Hey, I think I've seen some of these stickers! Seems like a good idea to me tbh. Tons of places in NYC are intentionally named to bolster the reputation of (often scummy) family dynasties. To the average person, the name goes unquestioned, but it's like subliminal messaging that gets in your head anyway. It happened in the past and it's still happening today. Next they need to throw some stickers on the David Koch Theater. --- The owls are not what they seem. <cite>TheOnionKnight posted [p:955937735] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Hey, I think I've seen some of these stickers! Seems like a good idea to me tbh. Tons of places in NYC are intentionally named to bolster the reputation of (often scummy) family dynasties. To the average person, the name goes unquestioned, but it's like subliminal messaging that gets in your head anyway. It happened in the past and it's still happening today. Next they need to throw some stickers on the David Koch Theater.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 07/10/21 8:55:24 AM #48:	joe40001 posted... If something has been named something for 50-100+ years changing it arbitrarily is kinda silly. Like that's the name of the thing, Human history didn't start in 2015. If something changes (like if they had a street named after bill cosby) or if the person it was named after was like a pure racist and nothing else, yeah sure. But things like "idk about about this place, it's named after Thomas Jefferson" it's like bro, seriously? Honestly for a certain group of people, their record of life literally started only 200 years ago with a bill of sale - thats absolutely nothing to the scope of our entire history These events are fresh and still fresh because they are literally still on-going, dont blame people for protesting, blame those jackasses you probably defend for fucking up so bad that they literally outted themselves to the sharks Whats silly is trying to convince me that what we should do as a collective society is try to appease the 5 of you opposed to renaming streets rather than following through with the 1,000 that dont give a shit if we change street names Like I dont give a shit about Thomas Jefferson, fuck Thomas Jefferson why should I give a damn about the dude? For some kind of historical lesson I can reference for when Im doing Tuesday night trivia? Thats why you wanna keep his name around? Lol --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:955937847] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>If something has been named something for 50-100+ years changing it arbitrarily is kinda silly. Like that's the name of the thing, Human history didn't start in 2015. If something changes (like if they had a street named after bill cosby) or if the person it was named after was like a pure racist and nothing else, yeah sure. But things like "idk about about this place, it's named after Thomas Jefferson" it's like bro, seriously?</quote> Honestly for a certain group of people, their record of life literally started only 200 years ago with a bill of sale - thats absolutely nothing to the scope of our entire history These events are fresh and still fresh because they are literally still on-going, dont blame people for protesting, blame those jackasses you probably defend for fucking up so bad that they literally outted themselves to the sharks Whats silly is trying to convince me that what we should do as a collective society is try to appease the 5 of you opposed to renaming streets rather than following through with the 1,000 that dont give a shit if we change street names Like I dont give a shit about Thomas Jefferson, fuck Thomas Jefferson why should I give a damn about the dude? For some kind of historical lesson I can reference for when Im doing Tuesday night trivia? Thats why you wanna keep his name around? Lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 07/10/21 9:00:02 AM #49:	RedJackson posted... Honestly for a certain group of people, their record of life literally started only 200 years ago with a bill of sale - thats absolutely nothing to the scope of our entire history These events are fresh and still fresh because they are literally still on-going, dont blame people for protesting, blame those jackasses you probably defend for fucking up so bad that they literally outted themselves to the sharks Whats silly is trying to convince me that what we should do as a collective society is try to appease the 5 of you opposed to renaming streets rather than following through with the 1,000 that dont give a shit if we change street names I agree most people don't give a shit. So if most people don't give a shit about something, that isn't a good argument that we do it. I'd be for putting up major renamings to a vote, and if the majority voted for it we'd rename. The problem is, I think you'd find, is that the majority either doesn't care or is against it. Spend the fucking money it takes to update maps and street signs on feeding a damn family or something. Unless it's KKK street, this isn't worth the time. Like I dont give a shit about Thomas Jefferson, fuck Thomas Jefferson why should I give a damn about the dude? For some kind of historical lesson I can reference for when Im doing Tuesday night trivia? Thats why you wanna keep his name around? Lol Um, because he like many of those people were hugely important to founding the country you live in...? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:955937927] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote>Honestly for a certain group of people, their record of life literally started only 200 years ago with a bill of sale - thats absolutely nothing to the scope of our entire history These events are fresh and still fresh because they are literally still on-going, dont blame people for protesting, blame those jackasses you probably defend for fucking up so bad that they literally outted themselves to the sharks Whats silly is trying to convince me that what we should do as a collective society is try to appease the 5 of you opposed to renaming streets rather than following through with the 1,000 that dont give a shit if we change street names </quote> I agree most people don't give a shit. So if most people don't give a shit about something, that isn't a good argument that we do it. I'd be for putting up major renamings to a vote, and if the majority voted for it we'd rename. The problem is, I think you'd find, is that the majority either doesn't care or is against it. Spend the fucking money it takes to update maps and street signs on feeding a damn family or something. Unless it's KKK street, this isn't worth the time. <quote>Like I dont give a shit about Thomas Jefferson, fuck Thomas Jefferson why should I give a damn about the dude? For some kind of historical lesson I can reference for when Im doing Tuesday night trivia? Thats why you wanna keep his name around? Lol</quote> Um, because he like many of those people were hugely important to founding the country you live in...? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 07/10/21 9:00:33 AM #50:	Great news. --- If you do that diddley dee for me, I'll do that diddley doo for you <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:955937934] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Great news. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 07/10/21 9:00:43 AM #51:	Can we start modding people who reply to joe at this point? Not sure how CE will learn otherwise. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:955937937] in Activists ... [t:79557280]...</cite> <quote>Can we start modding people who reply to joe at this point? Not sure how CE will learn otherwise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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