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joe40001
07/13/21 7:21:49 PM
#154:


CableZL posted...
"Not just for covid-19, but for all diseases"

Oh my god, this is so fucking stupid

Yeah that's really dumb. The COVID part makes some sense but normal vaccines are safe/tested af.

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Nick_Saban
07/13/21 7:22:23 PM
#155:


CableZL posted...
I'm saying you're lying because you repeatedly misrepresented what Kamala Harris said at the start of the topic even after the video was posted. You were corrected multiple times and you continued to double down. You even went so far as to say we should "do our own research." When the video was posted, you still kept lying about what she said.

And now we're asking you to post a source for a projection of 20 million Americans dying from covid and you just can't. So much for doing your own research.

As someone said earlier, it's OK to admit you're wrong.

I guess you find it easier to just keep making shit up.

The whole point of the Kamala Harris post was to say she initially sowed distrust of the vaccine by saying she would not take the vaccine if the president of the USA said it was a good vaccine. Yeah, she said she would trust the scientists. But dont you remember how people didn't find the scientists under Trump particularly trustworthy? Didn't people think that the scientists were just echoing what Trump was instructing? If Trump and the scientists that work with Trump both say the vaccine is good and you've been instructed to trust one and distrust the other, how does a person process that?

That's the overarching concept here. Kamala Harris created a seed of distrust. There are ways for that seed to grow. Because if you don't trust trump, logic would dictate that you probably wouldn't trust someone who worked for him or with him. Then it comes down to, who do you trust?

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DepreceV2
07/13/21 7:27:14 PM
#156:


Nick_Saban posted...
The whole point of the Kamala Harris post was to say she initially sowed distrust of the vaccine by saying she would not take the vaccine if the president of the USA said it was a good vaccine. Yeah, she said she would trust the scientists. But dont you remember how people didn't find the scientists under Trump particularly trustworthy? Didn't people think that the scientists were just echoing what Trump was instructing? If Trump and the scientists that work with Trump both say the vaccine is good and you've been instructed to trust one and distrust the other, how does a person process that?

That's the overarching concept here. Kamala Harris created a seed of distrust. There are ways for that seed to grow. Because if you don't trust trump, logic would dictate that you probably wouldn't trust someone who worked for him or with him. Then it comes down to, who do you trust?

So you are just going to pretend that Dr. Fauci wasnt on Trumps team?


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IShall_Run_Amok
07/13/21 7:27:59 PM
#157:


Were_Wyrm posted...
How about we cut off all federal funding to states that don't hit 70% vaccination rate by say Sept 30th
I'd rather the government just annex the state.

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DepreceV2
07/13/21 7:29:26 PM
#158:


IShall_Run_Amok posted...
I'd rather the government just annex the state.

I have no problems with this

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CableZL
07/13/21 7:31:55 PM
#159:


There's really no justification at all for advocating to stop vaccinating children against all diseases. Kids are gonna die from diseases that we've had readily available vaccines for decades.

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CableZL
07/13/21 7:33:33 PM
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Also, there is a high likelihood that at least a few of them are still alive because of vaccines. Advocating to stop vaccinating kids entirely when you benefited from vaccinations is cartoonishly evil.

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Nick_Saban
07/13/21 7:36:44 PM
#161:


DepreceV2 posted...
It will take hours because it doesnt exist. It didnt take me hours to fact check you. It took me minutes. You saying it will take too long to find evidence is just you BSing so you dont have to prove anything. Nope. You provide a source.

Plus, how the hell am I suppose to trust the memory of someone who cant, allegedly (probably lying), remember his COVID projected death numbers you used in an argument? Short answer is, I cant. You prove to me with sources on the main points you listed or you are lying and full of crap. Its that simple.

Just because I cant find a clip or article doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's literally I'm one person. I have to wash dishes and cook supper and lunch for tomorrow and I dont have an extraordinary amount of time to dedicate to looking for relatively nondescript video clip or article from a year and a half ago.

This is not a formal debate, I'm not obligated to provide you with sources and you're not owed sources. Its possible that I watched a video and someone picked up the 2.2 million, and left off the decimal and called it 22 million and I didn't check it at the time. There is not enough hours in the day for me to go back and rewatch 6-8 weeks of youtube videos and find out where I went wrong or where someone else went wrong. And if someone said it and I failed to check it and just ran with it, that's on me.

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DepreceV2
07/13/21 7:37:21 PM
#162:


CableZL posted...
Also, there is a high likelihood that at least a few of them are still alive because of vaccines. Advocating to stop vaccinating kids entirely when you benefited from vaccinations is cartoonishly evil.

Its insanity. Those vaccines are so damn important. Every child death thanks to no vaccines is on the head of the GOP

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Unclover028
07/13/21 7:38:31 PM
#163:


DepreceV2 posted...
Its insanity. Those vaccines are so damn important. Every child death thanks to no vaccines is on the head of the GOP
But somehow they're still better than the democrats according to pro lifers.
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Nick_Saban
07/13/21 7:38:52 PM
#164:


DepreceV2 posted...
So you are just going to pretend that Dr. Fauci wasnt on Trumps team?


I never said he wasn't and some people didn't trust Fauci early on because they thought Trump was dictating a lot of what he said. I know Fauci disagreed with Trump publicly a few times. But a lot of people on the left didnt inherently trust Fauci under Trump.

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DepreceV2
07/13/21 7:39:38 PM
#165:


Nick_Saban posted...
Just because I cant find a clip or article doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's literally I'm one person. I have to wash dishes and cook supper and lunch for tomorrow and I dont have an extraordinary amount of time to dedicate to looking for relatively nondescript video clip or article from a year and a half ago.

This is not a formal debate, I'm not obligated to provide you with sources and you're not owed sources. Its possible that I watched a video and someone picked up the 2.2 million, and left off the decimal and called it 22 million and I didn't check it at the time. There is not enough hours in the day for me to go back and rewatch 6-8 weeks of youtube videos and find out where I went wrong or where someone else went wrong. And if someone said it and I failed to check it and just ran with it, that's on me.

So you are full of shit and you dont have to prove it otherwise. Got it

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Flockaveli
07/13/21 7:40:43 PM
#166:


Republicans literally hate human life.

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CableZL
07/13/21 7:41:49 PM
#167:


Nick_Saban posted...
Just because I cant find a clip or article doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's literally I'm one person. I have to wash dishes and cook supper and lunch for tomorrow and I dont have an extraordinary amount of time to dedicate to looking for relatively nondescript video clip or article from a year and a half ago.

This is not a formal debate, I'm not obligated to provide you with sources and you're not owed sources. Its possible that I watched a video and someone picked up the 2.2 million, and left off the decimal and called it 22 million and I didn't check it at the time. There is not enough hours in the day for me to go back and rewatch 6-8 weeks of youtube videos and find out where I went wrong or where someone else went wrong. And if someone said it and I failed to check it and just ran with it, that's on me.

Remember when Nick_Saban complained about other people not being able to do basic research for themselves?

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DepreceV2
07/13/21 7:42:42 PM
#168:


CableZL posted...
Remember when Nick_Saban complained about other people not being able to do basic research for themselves?

Yep. He pretty much said at this point that he doesnt need to provide proof of anything so he is full of shit until he proves otherwise

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Unknown5uspect
07/13/21 7:43:12 PM
#169:


Nick_Saban posted...
Just because I cant find a clip or article doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
What is does mean is that you should probably shut the fuck up if you can't back your asinine claims up.

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Nick_Saban
07/13/21 7:44:50 PM
#170:


3 moderations for "trolling". None of the posts contained personal attacks on anybody. All three were benign. How can I post here when apparently not agreeing with democrats 100% of the time is a violation of the TOS?

I miss what GameFAQs used to be.

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Goatsensation
07/13/21 7:45:11 PM
#171:


I'm so tired of people in charge doing something incredibly stupid during this pandemic and then two months down the line going "woah stop blaming us there's no way we could have known it would get this bad!"

ffs it's been a repeating cycle since March 2020

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DepreceV2
07/13/21 7:47:59 PM
#172:


Goatsensation posted...
I'm so tired of people in charge doing something incredibly stupid during this pandemic and then two months down the line going "woah stop blaming us there's no way we could have known it would get this bad!"

ffs it's been a repeating cycle since March 2020

Yep. The crazy amount of American bodies pulling up is proof of that

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Unknown5uspect
07/13/21 7:48:23 PM
#173:


"Why do I keep getting modded for trolling?! I'm just derailing a thread with disingenuous bullshit!" - @Nick_Saban

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joe40001
07/13/21 7:51:07 PM
#174:


For the sake of everyone's lives we need to include more nuance and distinction in our discussions. It is not helping things to act like the covid vaccines are identical to these insanely important long-running long-tested super safe not EUA vaccines.

I'm not saying the covid vaccines aren't safe, right now I think they are very much likely safe, but if you tell most Republicans that regular vaccines are just as safe as covid vaccines they are going to hear that as evidence that regular vaccines are unsafe not that covid vaccines are safe.

Please please please please please do not make regular vaccines political too.

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CableZL
07/13/21 7:52:56 PM
#175:


joe40001 posted...
For the sake of everyone's lives we need to include more nuance and distinction in our discussions. It is not helping things to act like the covid vaccines are identical to these insanely important long-running long-tested super safe not EUA vaccines.

I'm not saying the covid vaccines aren't safe, right now I think they are very much likely safe, but if you tell most Republicans that regular vaccines are just as safe as covid vaccines they are going to hear that as evidence that regular vaccines are unsafe not that covid vaccines are safe.

Please please please please please do not make regular vaccines political too.
Tennessee Republicans have already made regular vaccines political.

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Bio1590
07/13/21 7:54:30 PM
#176:


Bio1590 posted...
Whichever mod only nkl'd those posts is fucking terrible at their job

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MabusIncarnate
07/13/21 7:54:37 PM
#177:


Nick_Saban posted...
3 moderations for "trolling". None of the posts contained personal attacks on anybody. All three were benign. How can I post here when apparently not agreeing with democrats 100% of the time is a violation of the TOS?

I miss what GameFAQs used to be.
Spreading lies and misinformation is trolling, which you got hit for because you are spreading lies and misinformation.

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CableZL
07/13/21 7:54:44 PM
#178:


Now Nick Saban is PMing me and STILL doubling down on his bullshit about Kamala Harris.


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Unknown5uspect
07/13/21 7:55:17 PM
#179:


@Nick_Saban don't PM me your disingenuous bullshit bro.

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Bio1590
07/13/21 7:55:35 PM
#180:


CableZL posted...
Now Nick Saban is PMing me and STILL doubling down on his bullshit about Kamala Harris.


Unknown5uspect posted...
@Nick_Saban don't PM me your disingenuous bullshit bro.

Report it!
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DepreceV2
07/13/21 7:56:16 PM
#181:


LMAO. He is PMing everyone now

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DepreceV2
07/13/21 7:56:37 PM
#182:


Bio1590 posted...
Report it!

Oh that works?

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Funkydog
07/13/21 7:57:42 PM
#183:


I don't know if I should be glad or feel left out he isn't PMing me.

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Bio1590
07/13/21 8:01:23 PM
#184:


DepreceV2 posted...


Oh that works?

Yeah, you can report a PM just like any message posted on the boards.

The funniest thing with reporting PMs is that it tells the person who sent it you reported it
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Goatsensation
07/13/21 8:02:08 PM
#185:


I didn't get a PM =(

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joe40001
07/13/21 8:02:45 PM
#186:


CableZL posted...
Tennessee Republicans have already made regular vaccines political.
We need to resist the urge to encourage that any further though

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DepreceV2
07/13/21 8:02:47 PM
#187:


Bio1590 posted...
Yeah, you can report a PM just like any message posted on the boards.

The funniest thing with reporting PMs is that it tells the person who sent it you reported it

Lucky for him that he didnt send me anything report worthy

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MabusIncarnate
07/13/21 8:03:54 PM
#188:


This guy.. now it's a 15 month old youtube video or it was an autoplay on a website. The Ark of the Kamala Covenant of video clips right here guys.

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CableZL
07/13/21 8:04:50 PM
#189:


I directly told him to stop PMing me and he still did it. So I reported him.

Holy shit. Dude is STILL deliberately lying about what Kamala Harris said even after he has been corrected by multiple people and the video itself has been posted.

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ButteryMales
07/13/21 8:06:36 PM
#190:


joe40001 posted...
We need to resist the urge to encourage that any further though
Who's encouraging it?
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DepreceV2
07/13/21 8:06:54 PM
#191:


CableZL posted...
I directly told him to stop PMing me and he still did it. So I reported him.

Holy shit. Dude is STILL deliberately lying about what Kamala Harris said even after he has been corrected by multiple people and the video itself has been posted.

He didnt bother to PM me more lies. Lucky for him


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Bio1590
07/13/21 8:07:19 PM
#192:


DepreceV2 posted...


Lucky for him that he didnt send me anything report worthy

If it's unprompted it's still Abusive Behaviour. I got Proudclad nailed for that once and he threw and absolute shitfit over it.
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CableZL
07/13/21 8:07:25 PM
#193:


joe40001 posted...
We need to resist the urge to encourage that any further though
Criticizing Tennessee Republicans for politicizing all vaccines isn't encouraging the politicization of all vaccines.

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Bio1590
07/13/21 8:07:43 PM
#194:


ButteryMales posted...
Who's encouraging it?

Please don't feed joe numbers
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DepreceV2
07/13/21 8:12:25 PM
#195:


Bio1590 posted...
If it's unprompted it's still Abusive Behaviour. I got Proudclad nailed for that once and he threw and absolute shitfit over it.

Oh never mind. Time to report

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MabusIncarnate
07/13/21 8:13:17 PM
#196:


Let me try to break it down simple

Trump wanted to win the election. He didn't give a shit about the health of the public, he wanted to force out the vaccine, bypass necessary testing and trials. He didn't care if it was safe or not, he wanted to not yet again be a tremendous fuck up and miss his election deadline for the rollout

Medical professionals were saying no, this is a bad idea, we can't fast track it without more extensive work on the vaccines

Trump, not a medical professional by any means, still pushed for it

Kamala said if medical professionals are saying the vaccine isn't ready, needs more testing and time, but Trump forces a rollout anyway somehow, I don't trust Trump's medical opinion that it's safe. We need to wait until the doctors and scientists say it's ready.

Why is this so hard to comprehend? It was entirely of the circumstance that if he forced the vaccines out for his own benefit too early, it could do more harm than good. Her holding that opinion was absolutely reasonable because Trump isn't a doctor or a scientist, he's an egotistical self-centered destructive person. He had no place whatsoever to even begin to hint that the vaccine was ready when the professionals continued to tell him otherwise.

They waited on the vaccine until it cleared and was deemed safe, and Kamala got het vaccine. But all Trumpers pick out are the 4 or 5 words out of a paragraph with full context and change it to whatever fills their criteria.

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joe40001
07/13/21 8:16:48 PM
#197:


CableZL posted...
Criticizing Tennessee Republicans for politicizing all vaccines isn't encouraging the politicization of all vaccines.

Yeah but calling people who so much as say VAERS "alt right antivaxxers" is.

We can't afford to lose faith in traditional vaccines due to this political circus.

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DepreceV2
07/13/21 8:17:00 PM
#198:


MabusIncarnate posted...
Let me try to break it down simple

Trump wanted to win the election. He didn't give a shit about the health of the public, he wanted to force out the vaccine, bypass necessary testing and trials. He didn't care if it was safe or not, he wanted to not yet again be a tremendous fuck up and miss his election deadline for the rollout

Medical professionals were saying no, this is a bad idea, we can't fast track it without more extensive work on the vaccines

Trump, not a medical professional by any means, still pushed for it

Kamala said if medical professionals are saying the vaccine isn't ready, needs more testing and time, but Trump forces a rollout anyway somehow, I don't trust Trump's medical opinion that it's safe. We need to wait until the doctors and scientists say it's ready.

Why is this so hard to comprehend? It was entirely of the circumstance that if he forced the vaccines out for his own benefit too early, it could do more harm than good. Her holding that opinion was absolutely reasonable because Trump isn't a doctor or a scientist, he's an egotistical self-centered destructive person. He had no place whatsoever to even begin to hint that the vaccine was ready when the professionals continued to tell him otherwise.

They waited on the vaccine until it cleared and was deemed safe, and Kamala got het vaccine. But all Trumpers pick out are the 4 or 5 words out of a paragraph with full context and change it to whatever fills their criteria.

Excellent post


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DepreceV2
07/13/21 8:18:50 PM
#199:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Nick_Saban

LMAO

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MabusIncarnate
07/13/21 8:21:12 PM
#200:


Oh jeez, plenty of time to grind youtube for that video now though.

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Bleuets
07/13/21 8:23:27 PM
#201:


Were_Wyrm posted...
How about we cut off all federal funding to states that don't hit 70% vaccination rate by say Sept 30th

how about no Scott. Federal funding is needed for all states whether you agree with their policies or not.
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Bio1590
07/13/21 8:42:21 PM
#202:


Bleuets posted...


how about no Scott. Federal funding is needed for all states whether you agree with their policies or not.

You're an anti-vaxxer and a covid denier, your opinion is less than worseless.
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