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Gobstoppers12
07/14/21 6:02:23 PM
#151:


darkprince45 posted...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bxVFRs3Mozg

heres an arrested guy shooting an officer. By fitting his hand through the holster and popping a round. Just happened this week
Waiting for the people saying "what's he gonna do in handcuffs with two officers on him?" to address this incident.

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Darmik
07/14/21 6:15:33 PM
#152:


I thought guns had some sort of safety mechanism on them to avoid the possibility of people simply reaching into the holster and firing.

I also thought it would have been rather difficult for random people to take the gun out without knowing what to do.

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darkprince45
07/14/21 6:17:22 PM
#153:


Darmik posted...
I thought guns had some sort of safety mechanism on them to avoid the possibility of people simply reaching into the holster and firing.

I also thought it would have been rather difficult for random people to take the gun out without knowing what to do.

most law enforcement use glocks which only really have a palm grip safety. That holster is a level 3 retention holster by the looks of it, which means you have to push down, flip the a cover, and then, push a button while retrieving the gun. Thats how dedicated that guy was able to do it


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OctoPop
07/14/21 6:18:08 PM
#154:


darkprince45 posted...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bxVFRs3Mozg

heres an arrested guy shooting an officer. By fitting his hand through the holster and popping a round. Just happened this week
Yeah this is kinda what turned me around on this entire thing. Just because his hands are bound behind him doesn't mean he isn't a threat plus he was all pilled out and weird so who knows.

Justified shooting

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Darmik
07/14/21 6:21:07 PM
#155:


darkprince45 posted...
most law enforcement use glocks which only really have a palm grip safety. That holster is a level 3 retention holster by the looks of it, which means you have to push down, flip the a cover, and then, push a button while retrieving the gun. Thats how dedicated that guy was able to do it

Looking at the video again he seems to be yanking at the gun and it's not coming out. Then he's shoved away from the officer. That's when he's told he is about to die.

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Derwood
07/14/21 6:28:33 PM
#156:


How bad is police training that they dont know how to handle a skirmish without exposing their gun to the suspect?

oh, right, they all just panic at the slightest stress
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Zikten
07/14/21 6:28:38 PM
#157:


There was so excuse for that cold blooded remark from the killer
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Goldenguy
07/14/21 6:33:16 PM
#158:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
all cops

Not all cops.

These ones clearly have little tact, however, and the guy who shot dude should be locked away for sure. How callously he said "he's dead" after that is a clear statement of how fucked he is in the head, his prior murders notwithstanding.

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UnfairRepresent
07/14/21 6:37:59 PM
#159:


Goldenguy posted...


Not all cops.
True but the entire system is set to protect and empower and encourage the corruption while "good cops" do nothing

The few who try to stand up to the corruption get immediately punished and usually fired.

it's not a defense anymore

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Umbreon
07/14/21 6:38:42 PM
#160:


Goldenguy posted...
These ones clearly have little tact, however, and the guy who shot dude should be locked away for sure.

As well as everyone who let it happen.
And the department who said he "did nothing wrong".

Man, it's almost like the one who pulled the trigger isn't the one solely at fault.

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Bass_X0
07/14/21 6:51:07 PM
#161:


American Cops be like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3RJUMm-hd0

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Bass_X0
07/14/21 6:54:41 PM
#162:


Problem: Handcuffed prisoners can still reach for a cop's gun and are able to shoot it.

Solution A: Cop continues to take gun within grabbing vicinity of prisoner, then shoot prisoner if they try

Solution B: Leave guns out of reach of the prisoner's vicinity so the prisoner is unable to grab the gun

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neccis
07/14/21 7:02:42 PM
#163:


Umbreon posted...
Because the police aren't there to help us.
And that's the super riddle that nobody has managed figure out yet.
It's insane. If the majority of people really are that stupid, and I have a feeling they are! Reap what you so you idiots.
Although, the few that see through this facade are hindered as well. Well, those people are hindered by way more than just that. Living amongst a city full of mummies.

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FortuneCookie
07/14/21 7:02:58 PM
#164:


Umbreon posted...
Also bootlickers will rally together regardless. They rallied way before ACAB became a thing. Pearl clutching over mean phases is a waste of time. Being polite isn't going to stop cops from murdering innocent people, not going to stop the system from defending it, and not going to stop bootlickers from defending it.

It's hardly bootlicking to ask for nuance and problem/solution approaches. Dismissive catchphrases and sweeping generalizations accomplish nothing.

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TheVipaGTS
07/14/21 7:15:04 PM
#166:


XxAxem_BlackxX posted...
Did we miss that part, guys? Where he had his hand on the officer's gun?
Oh no! Youre right the only option possible with 3 cops and his hand simply touching the gun was to make an action movie statement and then shoot him. In all that time not one of them could have gotten his hand off the unholstered gun. That handcuffed scrawny man is clearly too smart for 3 trained officers. Only possible outcome was him getting shot!

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Darmik
07/14/21 7:16:44 PM
#167:


They did get his hand off the gun. They killed him after.

He wasn't killed for their safety. He was killed as a punishment. Which is why he was told he was about to die.

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XxKrebsxX
07/14/21 7:19:26 PM
#168:


Aridi posted...
Police officers need to learn how to do their fucking job without carrying guns. Only the most skilled and highly trained officers should be trusted with guns as part of their uniform.

If you and your fellow officers can't chase down a suspect, handcuff them without choking them to death, and get them into your patrol vehicle without resorting to guns, then you don't deserve to be a police officer.

There are way too many cops who are absolute sissies, and I'm probably being too conservative with that assessment. If you are carrying that gun because you live in constant fear, tinkling your trousers at the sight of your own shadow, then quit the police force and join a monastery.

Biggest bunch of babies.

This so so wrong.

So long as civilians are able to have firearms, all police need to be armed.

With that said, after watching the video that cop should be tried for murder. Not a justifiable shooting.
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DarthAragorn
07/14/21 7:20:47 PM
#169:


Darmik posted...
They did get his hand off the gun. They killed him after.

He wasn't killed for their safety. He was killed as a punishment. Which is why he was told he was about to die.
but he toucheded da gun!!!!

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TheVipaGTS
07/14/21 7:30:12 PM
#170:


Darmik posted...
They did get his hand off the gun. They killed him after.

He wasn't killed for their safety. He was killed as a punishment. Which is why he was told he was about to die.

exactly. They had complete control. They were already acting pissy the entire time he was there. They did this to punish him for making them work. Also, why not the taser? He was clearly inebriated, hands bound, a taser would have probably worked fine. But they knew what they were doing. The cop was just waiting for him to act up so he could deliver his Oscar performance and shoot him right in the head. That wasnt a split decision reaction out of fear. That was a calculated and thought out move out of anger.


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yutterh
07/14/21 7:33:14 PM
#171:


Hurp dorp he should have just complied hurrrr he has priors derrrrrrrp - redcaps

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Patchwork
07/14/21 8:05:45 PM
#172:


Mr Sandbag posted...
>two officers in a scuffle with a guy
>he has already said he has a gun and has been belligerent the whole time
>one of the officers says the guy has his gun

At that point any officer would do what he did. You have to act quick or an innocent person could get killed. Like I said earlier, an officer doesn't have to have a gun pointed at them in order to shoot first.

He wasnt being that belligerent; he was heavily under the influence and suicidal. Ontop of that, his claims of having a gun are no factor. They searched him upon arrest, hes handcuffed, and they clearly dont take his claims seriously (as they shouldnt).

Moreover, your assertion that any cop would do what this sergeant did in this instance is outrageously incorrect.

I wouldnt.

Ive had people grab for my gun in streetfights when I was alone, and I was able to get them into custody without the weapon ever being drawn.

There were multiple officers present. There was no need for deadly force here.

In addition, the complacency of the officer whose gun is grabbed is incredibly frustrating.

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Samurontai
07/14/21 8:11:11 PM
#173:


Dude is dumb as fuck for grabbing the officers gun.

But, I don't see any justification for actually shooting him, as it was done after it was clear he no longer had a hold of it.

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Darmik
07/14/21 8:12:06 PM
#174:


There was also no reason for the cop to demand him to take off his shoes which was the entire catalyst for the fight to begin with. Of course he didn't have a gun in his shoe. Guy was incoherent.

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sabrestorm
07/14/21 8:13:13 PM
#175:


I thought this wasxa hypothetical question until they I clicked the link, very sad, the cop needs to be charged and locked up
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CM_Ponch
07/14/21 8:27:04 PM
#176:


Why are the bootlickers ignoring that the only reason the victim touched the gun at all was because the cop decided to take his shoes by force?

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Goldice
07/14/21 8:35:02 PM
#177:


Patchwork posted...

In addition, the complacency of the officer whose gun is grabbed is incredibly frustrating.

This is what frustrates me more than anything.

It's fucking clear that officer shouldn't be an officer anymore. Between how he handled the situation, how he put himself into that "risky" situation, and the action movie quote, the dude clearly shouldn't meet the qualifications for the responsibilities of the job even if it was a good shot (it wasn't)
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TheVipaGTS
07/14/21 8:38:07 PM
#178:


CM_Ponch posted...
Why are the bootlickers ignoring that the only reason the victim touched the gun at all was because the cop decided to take his shoes by force?
Granted, he said he had a gun in his shoe but they werent taking it seriously at all. It was like they used that opportunity to manhandle him more.

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gatorsPENSbucs
07/14/21 8:41:54 PM
#179:


KainFourteh posted...
he hadn't broken any laws
Driving drunk is considered breaking a law

darkprince45 posted...
Because he had just finished driving a vehicle over twice the legal alcohol limit??
Heres one person that watched the video

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Zikten
07/14/21 9:10:49 PM
#180:


The guy was potentially Overdosed on drugs and he needed go to a hospital. This wouldn't be the first time police refuse medical care to a prisoner
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AngelsNAirwav3s
07/14/21 9:25:40 PM
#181:


Zikten posted...
The guy was potentially Overdosed on drugs and he needed go to a hospital. This wouldn't be the first time police refuse medical care to a prisoner

Criminals also make up medical emergencies. Do we have a toxicology report on this guy to see if he was telling the truth?

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Kastrada
07/14/21 9:29:34 PM
#182:


AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Criminals also make up medical emergencies. Do we have a toxicology report on this guy to see if he was telling the truth?

He wasn't a criminal before hand. He was a suicidal man who's loved one called 911 to take him to a hospital.

Unless this is some criminal big brain move to commit a crime, self report and/or lie about your situation that would lead you to a massive medical bill or the result the got here.

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Samurontai
07/14/21 9:30:57 PM
#183:


Kastrada posted...
He wasn't a criminal before hand. He was a suicidal man who's loved one called 911 to take him to a hospital.

Unless this is some criminal big brain move to commit a crime, self report and/or lie about your situation that would lead you to a massive medical bill or the result the got here.

He was driving drunk. He was a criminal at the point he blew over the limit.

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Zeeak4444
07/14/21 9:31:31 PM
#184:


AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Criminals also make up medical emergencies. Do we have a toxicology report on this guy to see if he was telling the truth?

shit cops make up shit all the time so this line of reasoning aint gonna get you anywhere except some yeahs! From blue live matter morons.

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Samurontai
07/14/21 9:33:27 PM
#185:


Zeeak4444 posted...
shit cops make up shit all the time so this line of reasoning aint gonna get you anywhere except some yeahs! From blue live matter morons.

Is it really that easy to.. make up... a toxicology report...?

I'm genuinely curious.

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DepreceV2
07/14/21 9:35:38 PM
#186:


Samurontai posted...
Is it really that easy to.. make up... a toxicology report...?

I'm genuinely curious.

Its easy to make a claim and not release it

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Samurontai
07/14/21 9:37:22 PM
#187:


DepreceV2 posted...
Its easy to make a claim and not release it

But autopsy reports are public record, aren't they?

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DepreceV2
07/14/21 9:38:33 PM
#188:


Samurontai posted...
But autopsy reports are public record, aren't they?

I believe so? I was responding to that specifically not based around the current situation in this topic


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Samurontai
07/14/21 9:43:13 PM
#189:


DepreceV2 posted...
I believe so? I was responding to that specifically not based around the current situation in this topic

Oh, okay. Makes sense I suppose.

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What_
07/14/21 9:46:48 PM
#190:


The reporter just said that the cop was shot with his gun while still in the holster so not only is he a bad cop for just not being situationally aware what did he not have his fucking safety on his gun? Jesus Christ just more police incompetence
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TheVipaGTS
07/14/21 9:47:44 PM
#191:


Samurontai posted...
He was driving drunk. He was a criminal at the point he blew over the limit.
He was also suicidal and needed help. They instead berated him and murdered him.

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Samurontai
07/14/21 9:49:12 PM
#192:


TheVipaGTS posted...
He was also suicidal and needed help. They instead berated him and murdered him.

True, I don't agree with what they did at all. They handled it all sorts of badly.

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ThyCorndog
07/15/21 10:05:16 AM
#193:


police should not have the right to take lives, period

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One_Day_Remains
07/15/21 10:08:04 AM
#194:


AngelsNAirwav3s posted...


Criminals also make up medical emergencies. Do we have a toxicology report on this guy to see if he was telling the truth?


This is a monumentally stupid question. His girlfriend literally called 911 because he was threatening to commit suicide. In case you don't realize, psych ward commitments don't require "toxicology reports".
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RchHomieQuanChi
07/15/21 10:10:12 AM
#195:


This is why people talk about defunding the police and devoting that money towards other public resources, like mental health experts who are actually equipped to deal with these problems without the threat of violence

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XxAxem_BlackxX
07/15/21 10:46:39 AM
#196:


TheVipaGTS posted...
He was also suicidal and needed help. They instead berated him and murdered him.

So we're still doing the "he was murdered" thing even though it was pointed out by multiple people including myself that he had his hand on the officer's gun and could have very easily taken it and shot someone. Never change, Gamefaqs, never change.
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Derwood
07/15/21 10:51:12 AM
#197:


XxAxem_BlackxX posted...
So we're still doing the "he was murdered" thing even though it was pointed out by multiple people including myself that he had his hand on the officer's gun and could have very easily taken it and shot someone. Never change, Gamefaqs, never change.

"very easily"

Sure, Jan
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One_Day_Remains
07/15/21 11:18:49 AM
#198:


XxAxem_BlackxX posted...


So we're still doing the "he was murdered" thing even though it was pointed out by multiple people including myself that he had his hand on the officer's gun and could have very easily taken it and shot someone. Never change, Gamefaqs, never change.


He was held down by three officers while in cuffs and shot point blank. This is not a self-defense case no matter how much mental gymnastics you want to demonstrate to make it seem like one.
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TheOtherMike
07/15/21 11:21:51 AM
#199:


XxAxem_BlackxX posted...
So we're still doing the "he was murdered" thing even though it was pointed out by multiple people including myself that he had his hand on the officer's gun and could have very easily taken it and shot someone. Never change, Gamefaqs, never change.

Except he didn't have his hand on the gun at the time he was shot, which was also pointed out by multiple people.
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Xethuminra
07/15/21 11:21:57 AM
#200:


What do you think should happen when an officer hears - Fuck! Hes got my gun! ??
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EmbraceOfDeath
07/15/21 11:24:46 AM
#201:


AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Criminals also make up medical emergencies. Do we have a toxicology report on this guy to see if he was telling the truth?
You've got to be a special kind of stupid to think you should wait to take someone to the hospital in a potential emergency because you want to confirm it with a toxicology report.

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