Board 8 > Final Fantasy X-3 has a non-zero chance of happening.

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Leonhart4
07/14/21 3:04:29 PM
#51:


Noel is such a loser. He doesn't deserve to be in the presence of Serah.

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Mobilezoid
07/14/21 3:04:59 PM
#52:


Wakka did, obviously

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FFDragon
07/14/21 3:07:33 PM
#53:


Mobilezoid posted...
Whoa now, he's kinda boring but FF has plenty of outright awful characters. Wakka, for example

Hating Wakka is the great uniting force of FF fandom.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/14/21 3:08:54 PM
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I forget the specifics, but these was a chapter with a specific date near the end of XIII-2 where I basically gave up all pretense and very definitely decided "this is the worst level I have ever experienced in any video game and there is nothing the game can do to make up for it".

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MartinFF7
07/14/21 3:11:31 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I forget the specifics, but these was a chapter with a specific date near the end of XIII-2 where I basically gave up all pretense and very definitely decided "this is the worst level I have ever experienced in any video game and there is nothing the game can do to make up for it".

700 AF "A Dying World"

immediate gut instinct on this one but I feel confident
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Mobilezoid
07/14/21 3:12:04 PM
#56:


Yeah, that jumping puzzle maze filled with random encounters was what ruined XIII-2 for me too

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NominateMoogles
07/14/21 3:12:47 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I forget the specifics, but these was a chapter with a specific date near the end of XIII-2 where I basically gave up all pretense and very definitely decided "this is the worst level I have ever experienced in any video game and there is nothing the game can do to make up for it".

Kingdom Valley in Sonic 06

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LeonhartFour
07/14/21 3:15:11 PM
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Metal_DK
07/14/21 3:19:52 PM
#59:


Wakka has great character development in FFX.....

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NominateMoogles
07/14/21 3:22:24 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Wakka is great


Amen.

He is one of the things that makes X as good as it is, and gives it a real living breathing world feel to it.
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andylt
07/14/21 3:23:58 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
I appreciate what XIII-2 tried to do and I'm usually a sucker for time travel plots, but it didn't do anything for me.
I agree with this, I really wanted to like 13-2 and it's... fine but I don't think it made the most of its potential and the plot was just bad. Remember how little follow through there was on Alyssa lol.

And yes the ending is atrocious, though I haven't played LR yet.

MartinFF7 posted...
700 AF "A Dying World"

immediate gut instinct on this one but I feel confident
Yes **** this area. Archylte Steppe makes up for it though!

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NominateMoogles
07/14/21 3:28:53 PM
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andylt posted...
I agree with this, I really wanted to like 13-2 and it's... fine but I don't think it made the most of its potential and the plot was just bad. Remember how little follow through there was on Alyssa lol.

And yes the ending is atrocious, though I haven't played LR yet.

Yes **** this area. Archylte Steppe makes up for it though!

if you think the ending to XIII-2 is bad. DONT play LR

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UshiromiyaEva
07/14/21 3:32:22 PM
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Yeah that was definitely the one.

People should have lost their job over that level, unironically. May seem extreme but you can't make a stage that bad without doing it on purpose. I beleive it was malicious intent.

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RikkuAlmighty
07/14/21 4:07:38 PM
#64:


Noel is fine, if inoffensive.

He's no Hope, Snow, or Freya

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voltch
07/14/21 4:33:38 PM
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I don't mind Noel, loved playing XIII-2 and completed it a few times over.
Guess I'll go through it all over again on Steam one day cos I'm never going back to the PS3 and the backlog I never completed for that system might as well be lost at sea.

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plasmabeam
07/14/21 4:48:35 PM
#66:


ninkendo posted...
Still waiting for X-0 with Jecht, Auron and Braska as the tonal opposite from X-2

Please this.


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Leonhart4
07/15/21 7:30:36 AM
#67:


RikkuAlmighty posted...
Noel is fine, if inoffensive.

He's no Hope, Snow, or Freya

it actually does offend me that a male lead in an FF game is this bad

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ninkendo
07/15/21 7:35:49 AM
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xp1337
07/15/21 8:36:50 AM
#69:


Leonhart4 posted...
it actually does offend me that a male lead in an FF game is this bad
look at least he's not zidane

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andylt
07/15/21 8:39:44 AM
#70:


Leonhart4 posted...
it actually does offend me that a male lead in an FF game is this bad
Vaan

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voltch
07/15/21 8:43:21 AM
#71:


What do you actually hate about Noel to the point where you're offended?

I can buy bland, but FF games have several of those.

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Leonhart4
07/15/21 10:27:28 AM
#72:


Vaan is the protagonist in name alone. I'd sooner consider him the viewpoint character than the actual protagonist. Heck, the game itself mocks the idea that Vaan is the protagonist!

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ChaosTonyV4
07/15/21 10:51:59 AM
#73:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
XIII-2 was a nightmare so I did not play Lightning's Wardrobe Malfunction, lol.

lolwhat? XIII-2 is a top 3 game

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NominateMoogles
07/15/21 11:24:27 AM
#74:


xp1337 posted...
look at least he's not zidane


what the hell?

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UshiromiyaEva
07/15/21 11:30:41 AM
#75:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
lolwhat? XIII-2 is a top 3 game

One of the 5 worst games I've ever played.

Literally nothing about it that I liked at all.

I'm just glad I've forgotten most of it, honestly, though I can still see the vague recollections of scenes in my head.

It was not until Death Stranding that I encountered a final chunk of a game that made me so furious, though at least with DS there was stuff I liked along the way.

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MZero
07/15/21 11:32:16 AM
#76:


xp1337 posted...
look at least he's not zidane

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Waluigi1
07/15/21 11:34:34 AM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
lolwhat? XIII-2 is a top 3 game
What do you like so much about it exactly?

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MartinFF7
07/15/21 11:38:56 AM
#78:


Good things about FFXIII-2:

-Chocolina
-Caius('s voice actor)
-Adult Hope
-Crazy Chocobo.mp3

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ninkendo
07/15/21 11:39:58 AM
#79:


unlike XIII and LR, XIII-2 is actually super fun to play from beginning to end.

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andylt
07/15/21 11:46:36 AM
#80:


Good things about FFXIII-2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKwI749rU0g

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ChaosTonyV4
07/15/21 1:43:45 PM
#81:


Waluigi1 posted...
What do you like so much about it exactly?


MartinFF7 posted...
Good things about FFXIII-2:

-Chocolina
-Caius('s voice actor)
-Adult Hope
-Crazy Chocobo.mp3

All this plus

  • Mog
  • catching monsters is fun
  • time-hopping plot was interesting



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Leonhart4
07/15/21 1:46:57 PM
#82:


I did not like having a rotating random monster third party member. Give me a real character, especially when you're having to rely on wholly uninteresting Noel to carry conversations.

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andylt
07/15/21 1:48:26 PM
#83:


Leonhart4 posted...
I did not like having a rotating random monster third party member. Give me a real character, especially when you're having to rely on wholly uninteresting Noel to carry conversations.
Counterpoint: Flanitor is a more interesting character than either Serah or Noel.

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TheRock1525
07/15/21 1:53:28 PM
#84:


Lightning Returns secretly second best non-mainline FF game after Tactics.

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Leonhart4
07/15/21 1:58:57 PM
#85:


andylt posted...
Counterpoint: Flanitor is a more interesting character than either Serah or Noel.

Nah, like I said before, Serah isn't the problem with that game.

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ChaosTonyV4
07/15/21 2:11:08 PM
#86:


Leonhart4 posted...
I did not like having a rotating random monster third party member. Give me a real character, especially when you're having to rely on wholly uninteresting Noel to carry conversations.

ok but you can have a Behemoth in your party

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Leonhart4
07/15/21 2:11:55 PM
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Waluigi1
07/15/21 2:19:29 PM
#88:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
All this plus

* Mog
* catching monsters is fun
* time-hopping plot was interesting
That's... It? For a top 3 game(all time? Or just FF?) that sure doesn't seem like much good lol.

Also Mog as a plus is...a choice.

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