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UnfairRepresent 07/14/21 9:30:38 AM #51: |
RedJackson posted...
You sound more religious than anyone actually religious on this board with your posts there lol In what way? Pretty sure I don't believe in God, or the afterlife, I am against mainstream religion as a concept, oppose the tax exempt status they have and the ability for their insitutions to above the law. And the fact that religious have exasperated and had a negative effect on pretty much every society , war, political issue etc The Americans who had slaves believed they were doing God's will The Nazsis believed throwing their fellow man into gas chambers by the millions what God told them to do. The men who flew into the Two Towers would not have done so unless they believed in God and an afterlife. You see anti science attitudes and race/gay/trans discrimination rampant in religion to this day. Almost Trump's entire base is aggressively religious and they're the biggest fools America has to offer. When you say "I reject logic, critical thought, human crafted morality and reason. Instead I believe in the absolute power and divine right of whatever these weirdos tell me was correct when I wasa kid. Also because it is God we have authority over everyone else." bad things happen And most of the population of the world currently says that. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RedJackson 07/14/21 9:35:52 AM #52: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
In what way? UnfairRepresent posted... Pretty sure Sprinkling your thoughts on religion in unrelated matters is exactly what a religious person would do its not an actual topic of contention here, its just something you decided to segue into sounds religious --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bitcoin 07/14/21 9:37:40 AM #53: |
creativerealms posted...
I feel that the few detransitioned that exist will end up being weaponized and used to stop people from being transitioned and end up causing more problems. They are rare in already tiny minority. Yes cases of detransformation are weaponised but I dont think that negates the need to have an honest conversation on the subject. Transitioning can be a very good thing for people but I think reality shows that the whole thing is a lot more nuanced. For example we need to get to the bottom of why such a large proportion of people who have transformed attempt suicide. If you include those people with those that have detransformed you end up with a not insignificant proportion where transforming hasnt helped. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 07/14/21 9:37:55 AM #54: |
I don't think religion is unrelated to transgenders and specifically the discrimination transgenders face. I think it's exetremely relevant.
You will find enormous overlap between the two, especially the most passionate anti trans issues and the politicians promoting anti-trans laws (or blocking pro ones) as well as their base. You can't act like religion is irrelevant nor can you claim "Well by bringing that up you're clearly religious too!" that's absurd. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shezarr 07/14/21 9:38:23 AM #55: |
Whose alt is #53
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Gwynevere 07/14/21 9:40:13 AM #56: |
Posting Blair White vids
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UnfairRepresent 07/14/21 9:41:33 AM #57: |
Bitcoin posted...
Yes cases of detransformation are weaponised but I dont think that negates the need to have an honest conversation on the subject. Transitioning can be a very good thing for people but I think reality shows that the whole thing is a lot more nuanced. I agree with this I disagree with this As I said earlier about the prosecution of homosexuals. Pointing at how high the suicide/depression rates of a group that is systematically hated and disrcrimated agaisnt in life and law by most of the population is more of a condemnation of society than whatever practice you're condemning. I think transgenders might be too new for statistics but the suicide rates of minorities and homosexuals massively plummet in every place where they get show basic respect. In Canada simply making GLAAD work with other Youth Groups on intergrated projects massively lowered the suicide rate of teens (gay and straight) across hundreds of schools. If you're and everyone you know is an asshole to someone all day everyday for decades because they have blue eyes. Then that guy snaps and kills himself, he didn't kill himself because he had blue eyes. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RedJackson 07/14/21 9:45:15 AM #58: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't think religion is unrelated to transgenders and specifically the discrimination transgenders face. I think it's exetremely relevant. If someone else brought up religion Id give them a free pass - but its you, and you always bring up religion instead in every topic lol --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMallard 07/14/21 9:47:11 AM #59: |
Is UR double-posting, or has my ignore list conspired to circlejerk each other and bump this thread to 100+ posts?
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Medussa 07/14/21 9:49:24 AM #60: |
oh look. UR still thinks we should care about his opinions on a topic that he refuses to even get to a 101 level of understanding.
please stop responding to him. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! My only skills are brick throwing and frog being! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 07/14/21 9:50:11 AM #61: |
MrMallard posted...
Is UR double-posting, or has my ignore list conspired to circlejerk each other and bump this thread to 100+ posts?Lol I'm agreeing with you and you're so far gone you're still talking shit. RedJackson posted... If someone else brought up religion Id give them a free pass - but its you, and you always bring up religion instead in every topic lolIf you say so I can't recall any time I've brought up religion and it's been irrelevant and you're failing to answer basic questions You still haven't explained how I was being religious and now you're just making more strange claims --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bitcoin 07/14/21 9:51:46 AM #62: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Maybe true but doesnt change the fact that suicide probability goes up once someone transitions. If it were the same rate for transgender people who do and dont transition I would agree with you but that isnt the case. While I would love to see transitioning as a solution (and it is in some cases) it certainly isnt the magic solution some people claim it is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 07/14/21 9:53:43 AM #63: |
Bitcoin posted...
suicide probability goes up once someone transitions. no it fucking doesn't. stop falling for propaganda. and definitely stop spreading it. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! My only skills are brick throwing and frog being! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nfearurspecimn 07/14/21 9:54:24 AM #64: |
Medussa posted...
no it fucking doesn't. stop falling for propaganda. and definitely stop spreading it.why isn't this topic moddable? it's trolling --- Wake up. You have to wake up. *currently a preta/hungry ghost* Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 07/14/21 9:55:15 AM #65: |
nfearurspecimn posted...
why isn't this topic moddable? it's trolling seems like a good question for the mod who posted earlier, no? --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! My only skills are brick throwing and frog being! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 07/14/21 9:55:45 AM #66: |
Bitcoin posted...
Maybe true but doesnt change the fact that suicide probability goes up once someone transitions. If it were the same rate for transgender people who do and dont transition I would agree with you but that isnt the case. While I would love to see transitioning as a solution (and it is in some cases) it certainly isnt the magic solution some people claim it is.I'm interested in these statistics if you have them. But again I still don't agree that "look how high these suicide and depression rates for these people half the world hates." is much of an argument. Especially for MtF transgenders. No offense intended but the more masculine looking MtF transgenders face heaps of abuse. I'm in the UK and people just openly scream and laugh and throw things them at them in the street. It's just accepted that it's okay to do so. MtF Transgenders who haven't transitioned don't face that abuse and humiliation in public. That's not an attack on transitioning, it's attack on how horrible these (largely religious) people can be to their fellow man --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMallard 07/14/21 9:58:53 AM #68: |
nvm, it was because he quoted UR.
I maintain that you're not gonna get through to them, Medussa, but that's your prerogative. --- But I don't have to make this mistake, and I don't have to stay this way. Now Playing: Persona 5 Strikers, Oxenfree, Oldschool Runescape ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 07/14/21 9:59:30 AM #69: |
Bitcoin posted...
Maybe true but doesnt change the fact that suicide probability goes up once someone transitions. That's not true. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 07/14/21 9:59:34 AM #70: |
MrMallard posted...
I maintain that you're not gonna get through to them, Medussa, but that's your prerogative. probably one of SEROLIZERs very fine people --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! My only skills are brick throwing and frog being! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bitcoin 07/14/21 10:00:54 AM #71: |
Medussa posted...
no it fucking doesn't. stop falling for propaganda. and definitely stop spreading it. Ive seen several studies that concluded this. Obviously there is no proof its caused by the transitioning itself. It could just be the people who do see transitioning as the only option are just naturally have bigger problems (hence maybe why they feel transitioning is the answer and other transgender people dont). Im open minded though if you have evidence to suggest this isn't true Im happy to read it and change my mind. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bitcoin 07/14/21 10:02:33 AM #72: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm in the UK and people just openly scream and laugh and throw things them at them in the street. It's just accepted that it's okay to do so. lmao wtf is this bullcrap. edit: oh its UR. See hes still going strong. One for the list. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 07/14/21 10:02:36 AM #73: |
COVxy posted...
That's not true.Do you have statistics? I'd like to see them. Either way I think it's a bad argument. I don't think suicide or depression rates automatically reflects transitioning when transgenders face so much discrimination. In personal life, work and just basic rights. If transgenders were not discriminated against, those rates would be so much lower. Same as what happenedwith gay people and minorities. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shezarr 07/14/21 10:03:33 AM #74: |
Yall remember this next time UR tries to claim hes not a rightwinger
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UnfairRepresent 07/14/21 10:03:50 AM #75: |
Bitcoin posted...
Well can you post them? Bitcoin posted... lmao wtf is this bullcrap. It's true
Case and point. When faced with facts and reason you dislike, you run away. This is the mindset that causes so much damage --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 07/14/21 10:03:51 AM #76: |
Bitcoin posted...
Ive seen several studies that concluded this. no you haven't; they don't exist. you've, at best, read the misleading conclusions propagandists have put out there to manipulate you. if not entirely made up bullshit. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! My only skills are brick throwing and frog being! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 07/14/21 10:04:22 AM #77: |
Shezarr posted...
Yall remember this next time UR tries to claim hes not a rightwingerWhat have I said that's right wing? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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__aCEr__ 07/14/21 10:08:10 AM #78: |
Ah we're getting to the "do your own research" part of the conversation.
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COVxy 07/14/21 10:08:51 AM #79: |
Bitcoin posted...
Ive seen several studies that concluded this. Obviously there is no proof its caused by the transitioning itself. It could just be the people who do see transitioning as the only option are just naturally have bigger problems (hence maybe why they feel transitioning is the answer and other transgender people dont). No, what you referencing is the dutch study that concluded that post-transition suicide rate was still elevated in reference to controls, not that it went up post transition. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 07/14/21 10:11:37 AM #80: |
__aCEr__ posted...
Ah we're getting to the "do your own research" part of the conversation.What's mildly frustrating to me is neither user is actually posting the research Just arguing about what it said. Which is doubly funny because I still don't think suicide rates from a group that's discriminated against displays anything except for how cruel that society is. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/14/21 10:11:58 AM #81: |
Here's a much better use of twenty-three and a half minutes:
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Bitcoin 07/14/21 10:13:02 AM #82: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
What's mildly frustrating to me is neither user is actually posting the research Its two groups. Those that have transitioned and those that havent. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 07/14/21 10:15:07 AM #83: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Do you have statistics? https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acps.13164 --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 07/14/21 10:15:56 AM #84: |
COVxy posted...
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885Thank you --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMallard 07/14/21 10:19:18 AM #85: |
oh shit, if we're hijacking this thread to post music I have two projects of a similar length I wanna plug:
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Questionmarktarius 07/14/21 10:23:28 AM #86: |
MrMallard posted...
oh shit, if we're hijacking this thread to post musicThis thread is now about absurdly long songs, that you should be listening to instead of watching random youtube bullshittery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V3Q7P8h5V4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 07/14/21 10:26:23 AM #87: |
So TC decided to take a break from racist shitposting to make anti-trans topics
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RedJackson 07/14/21 10:34:14 AM #89: |
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