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GregShmedley posted...

It's a pretty stupid fucking question.

Why?

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At this point in the US, everyone over 18 who is not vaccinated is unvaccinated by choice. nearly everyone dying from covid now is unvaccinated

i cant muster up the energy to care about those stupid people anymore

so the age group that we should be concerned about protecting is 0-17, who, statistically are more likely to die from the regular flu than from covid. If we havent deemed the flu a public health crisis over the years, then how is where were at among that age group with covid a crisis?

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TheGoldenEel posted...

At this point in the US, everyone over 18 who is not vaccinated is unvaccinated by choice. nearly everyone dying from covid now is unvaccinated

i cant muster up the energy to care about those stupid people anymore

so the age group that we should be concerned about protecting is 0-17, who, statistically are more likely to die from the regular flu than from covid. If we havent deemed the flu a public health crisis over the years, then how is where were at among that age group with covid a crisis?

The more people covid infects, the more chance covid has a chance to mutate
The more times covid mutates, the more chances it has to mutate into something that the current vaccines can't fight

Not to mention the hospitalizations and possible long term symptoms from covid. Death isn't the only concern.
And covid is deadlier than the flu int hat age group, too.

I really don't know where people get this "covid is less deadly than the flu" bullshit from. I could maybe see that argument when we had like 15 cases, but now it's really a stupid point to make.

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TheGoldenEel posted...

so the age group that we should be concerned about protecting is 0-17, who, statistically are more likely to die from the regular flu than from covid. If we havent deemed the flu a public health crisis over the years, then how is where were at among that age group with covid a crisis?

We have a flu vaccine for children and doctors recommend getting it every year, in the fall, starting from 6 months of age: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/diseases/flu.html

TheGoldenEel posted...

Can you please respond as though I was being completely serious with my question (because I was)

Don't bother with him. He'll just block you if you dare disagree with him.

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GregShmedley posted...

Where do I begin?
-COVID is more transmissible than flu
-asymptomatic spread I'm COVID is a lot more prevalent than it is in flu
-the flu has been around for centuries and we know how to treat it where as COVID has barely been around for two years and we are in the middle of a pandemic
-I don't go anywhere if I feel any sort of sickness so as to not spread whatever I may have

Also, where are you getting your flu deaths in kids? Because from what I see, 144 pediatric deaths were reported in 2018-2019 flu season. So that would mean COVID is more deadly to kids than flu...meaning your entire argument confirmed to be even more horseshit.

My guess is its unclear what age group is considered pediatric

heres CDC data for 2017-2018. Even more deaths than the 2018-2019 season I was citing

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018/archive.htm



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Tyranthraxus posted...

There are long term / permanent side effects from covid. Death isn't the only metric that matters. Lots of kids may have wanted to do things like become athletes and will no longer be able to do so because their lungs are permanently fucked.

very true. I know there is a user here who has attested to having erectile disfunction after having COVID-19.

They really are just beating a dead horse at this point, the pandemic is over.

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Prismsblade posted...

They really are just beating a dead horse at this point, the pandemic is over.

Its not though. The delta variant is around and the last time I saw numbers only around 50% of Americans have been vaccinated. That number is far too low to call the pandemic over right now.

Bleuets posted...

Its not though. The delta variant is around and the last time I saw numbers only around 50% of Americans have been vaccinated. That number is far too low to call the pandemic over right now.

You can say and think whatever you want on the matter but everything's reopened and life has returned to normal.

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GregShmedley posted...

Those are estimates, by the way. Not concrete numbers. Thanks for sharing. Either way, still stand by my argument. And I answered your question.

Lest you think Im just some heartless asshole, I do feel conflicted about it all. Its a shitty situation overall, but ultimately I think the blame rests primarily on the people pushing anti-vax conspiracies and those who believe them

I guess my whole point is its not an easy question to answer, and maybe Im not going about it the exact right way, but ultimately on the off chance I pass covid on to a child (Im not spending a lot of time indoors with children), statistically they have a .008% chance of dying AND it was their parents choice to expose them to public places in the first place knowing that risk so how culpable am I really?

I dont know man. I dont have the answers and Im choosing to the err on the side of actually doing things this summer as opposed to staying cooped up and isolated another year. Maybe its wrong

ultimately going back to the point of this topic I think all these articles about breakthrough cases in people who are probably testing daily (athletes, politicians, etc) only serve to help vaccine hesitant/anti-vaxxers justify their position

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There's nothing stopping the virus from getting in your nostrils unless you're wearing a mask. Even if you're infected, it's not heavily replicating or spread from you as readily.
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theres a lot to consider overall and its not as simple to everyone now as just lock everything up

I have multiple hard left friends who were strongly pro-quarantine who are now sending their toddlers to daycare. Are they bad people too? Do they not care about their kids iyo?

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Bleuets posted...

very true. I know there is a user here who has attested to having erectile disfunction after having COVID-19.

That is a surprisingly common long hauler side effect for men.

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Worth

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