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pirateking193
07/22/21 1:44:57 AM
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So apparently today's seen a repeated barrage of topics about how EVIL pit bulls are, and a fair amount of users parroting it.

I've studied this for a while, and I've noticed that the people slamming Pit Bulls as evil seem to have an honest to god CONTEMPT for science and a cult like mentality that reaches Q anon levels of insanity. Pretty much every single mainstream animal welfare organization (and even the American Bar Association and CDC) have all said that Pit Bulls are no more dangerous than other dogs and that BSL is not only ineffective but needlessly cruel.

http://thepetconnection.org/bsl/Organizations%20that%20do%20not%20support%20BSL.pdf
https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-pit-bulls
https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/american-staffordshire-terrier/

Opponents of Pitbulls usually just say that they're part of a pit bull lobby or a massive conspiracy, which is rather like Qultists.

At the same time, opponents of pit bulls on the other hand tend to rely on two people, Merritt Clifton and Colleen Lynn. Both of them essentially rely on media reports for their statistics......thing is numerous scientific journals have shown that contrary to what they claim it is VERY easy to misidentify a pit bull.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S109002331500310X
https://barkpost.com/good/study-proves-difficult-visually-identify-pit-bulls/
https://gizmodo.com/a-shocking-number-of-dogs-in-shelters-are-misidentified-1759879362

Both Lynn and Clifton have openly accused any mainstream scientific group of being paid off, when ironically they have their own share of fraud
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/merritt-clifton-pit-bulls_b_5866176

Hilariously enough their own numbers work against them, since this graphic has shown that even if the media numbers WERE true it would STILL be a small drop of the total pit bull population

https://i1.wp.com/www.everydaydogmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Pit-Bull-Myths-Shattered-Infographic_700.jpg?w=620&ssl=1

Frankly I suspect that the reason for these increase in posts is desperation. Around the country BSL laws are getting repealed without any of the predicted uptick in attacks, even in places like Denver (which BSL advocates loved to cite as a model). In short they know they're increasingly alone and that the rest of society sees their poison for what it is. As such they're flailing like angry children


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Smashingpmkns
07/22/21 1:50:38 AM
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Well, yeah the anti-pitbull crowd seem like legit crazy people.
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BroodRyu
07/22/21 1:51:38 AM
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Also it seems like its the same user making over half the topics.
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pirateking193
07/22/21 1:51:48 AM
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A lot of people don't like science. Dogsbite LOOKS polished so most people don't look deeper to see the lack of substance.

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pirateking193
07/22/21 1:52:28 AM
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BroodRyu posted...
Also it seems like its the same user making over half the topics.
And there are fair number of nitwits who honestly agree with him.

It's funny. I only found out about the movie A dog's journey home (a fairly standard movie) because the haters threw a bitchfit due to it portraying Denver's laws as cruel and stupid (the main villain is an obnoxious dog catcher who ultimately gets reassigned for being an overzealous jackass). The haters were NOT amused to put it mildly

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SomeLikeItHoth
07/22/21 1:53:40 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Well, yeah the anti-pitbull crowd seem like legit crazy people.
> pitbull goes on kill rampage
> call users who are against murder the crazy ones

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Lokison
07/22/21 1:55:30 AM
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Word

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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
> pitbull goes on kill rampage
> call users who are against murder the crazy ones
Shut up Scotty.

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Smashingpmkns
07/22/21 1:55:52 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
> pitbull goes on kill rampage
> call users who are against murder the crazy ones

Here's one now
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ModLogic
07/22/21 2:00:28 AM
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pirateking193
07/22/21 2:05:05 AM
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ModLogic posted...
And I notice you fail to actually ADDRESS the points. I'll take the scientists over a former fortune teller and a guy who got fired from his own magazine and doesn't share data.

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Lokison
07/22/21 2:18:02 AM
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ModLogic posted...


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Looked gf
07/22/21 2:27:44 AM
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Share all the cherry picked facts you want, which dogs are more aggressive or likely to bite or attack.

Fact is, they've resulted in more fatalities than any other dog. Wonder why your infographics wont show that

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Looked gf
07/22/21 2:29:18 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
> pitbull goes on kill rampage
> call users who are against murder the crazy ones
Lol got em

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SomeLikeItHoth
07/22/21 3:28:55 AM
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Im starting to think Pitbulls are more prone to having some type of mad canine disease. Them having a brain disease that makes them vicious, man eating kill mongers, would actually make sense.

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indica
07/22/21 3:35:49 AM
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Looked gf posted...
Share all the cherry picked facts you want, which dogs are more aggressive or likely to bite or attack.

Fact is, they've resulted in more fatalities than any other dog. Wonder why your infographics wont show that
You should at least cite a source if you want to be taken seriously, especially since TC had like 6 of them...

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Lokison
07/22/21 3:42:36 AM
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Looked gf posted...
Share all the cherry picked facts you want, which dogs are more aggressive or likely to bite or attack.

Fact is, they've resulted in more fatalities than any other dog. Wonder why your infographics wont show that
"Oh, I'm presented with actual facts regarding this subject? Let me use my emotions to dictate my response, and make sure not to back any if it up with actual facts!"

That's how Anti-Vaxxers think. You're using the same train of thought. If you want to be taken seriously, back up your claims, or just dont speak about a subject you're clearly not educated on.

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Slayer_22
07/22/21 3:54:09 AM
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BroodRyu posted...
Also it seems like its the same user making over half the topics.

Yeah, Looked_gf has admit that they actively search for Pitbull attacks, daily. It's the only topic they post.

And when they have none to post, they will instead bring up old topics that have already been covered just to rile people up. They're obsessed.
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BloodMoon7
07/22/21 4:01:40 AM
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Don't let this distract you from the fact that chimps can beat pibbles in a fight 9 times out of 10.

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pirateking193
07/22/21 4:36:48 AM
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Lokison posted...
Looked gf posted...
"Oh, I'm presented with actual facts regarding this subject? Let me use my emotions to dictate my response, and make sure not to back any if it up with actual facts!"

That's how Anti-Vaxxers think. You're using the same train of thought. If you want to be taken seriously, back up your claims, or just dont speak about a subject you're clearly not educated on.
Even identifying pit bulls is hard. DNA testing has shown that visual identification alone is spotty. And since Merritt Clifton relies on the media admitting this kneecaps their case. BSL advocates are increasingly unhinged and they were always batshit insane

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Guide
07/22/21 4:41:13 AM
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It's surprising how many people fall for the most basic fucking fallacies.

>people keep saying it
>it must be true and happen a lot because people keep saying it

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
07/22/21 4:46:33 AM
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Looked gf posted...
Share all the cherry picked facts you want, which dogs are more aggressive or likely to bite or attack.

Fact is, they've resulted in more fatalities than any other dog. Wonder why your infographics wont show that

You are tricked by a fallacy. People who WANT a dog who will be guard dogs (at best) or vicious and terrible (at worst) will more likely get a pitbull due to their reputation. They then raise them poorly or to be killers and that is the result. This also unfortunately happens even with rescue dogs that have been treated poorly and are now with good owners.

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pirateking193
07/22/21 4:59:08 AM
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People are stupid and dont think. I took the time to do research and so know merritts cliftons a fraud. Others dont

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SomeLikeItHoth
07/22/21 5:50:13 AM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
Don't let this distract you from the fact that chimps can beat pibbles in a fight 9 times out of 10.
Pitbulls are blood thirsty; chimps are not.

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