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Vicious_Dios posted...

It's obviously dumb as fuck.

armandro posted...

as the leader of the latinx community on CE

im giving you 2 reasons why latinx is a good term

1. Helps our transgender latinx community feel more welcomed
2. Will help erase the heavily pro masculine language

I like it

Shezarr posted...

...Are you under the impression that advisors at universities are not themselves professors with PhDs? lmao what the fuck.

Tbf, almost nobody who isn't in a graduate program is familiar with that usage. They think of the people who help undergrads design their courseload.

Edit: too many negatives, fixed lol

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COVxy posted...

Tbf, almost nobody who isn't in a graduate program isn't familiar with that usage. They think of the people who help undergrads design their courseload.

Thats fair. Though even as an undergrad we had major advisers within our department who were faculty as well as those general academic advisers

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LordFarquad1312 posted...

It's dumb and stupid. Latin is already gender neutral.

...holy shit, you're right.

But yeah, never ceases to amuse me that when actual Hispanic people are asked about this, the response generally is somewhere between "it's stupid" and "it's offensive", and yet the white far-leftists who go on to no end about "listen to what the people actually in these groups say" insist that you're a bigot if you don't use it.

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Its just a thing that exists in Academia, its not like its on social media or businesses are starting to use it.

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@Winrawr whats your bachelors? The masters youre doing?

@Shezarr what about you?

I ask because I am wondering if your different points of view stem from your different academic fields

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limp-bizkit-89 posted...

@Winrawr whats your bachelors? The masters youre doing?

@Shezarr what about you?

I ask because I am wondering if your different points of view stem from your different academic fields

Bachelors of Science in Neurobiology at Davis
Master of Clinical Nurse Leader at UVA
Medicine 2nd year at UVA

Winrawr posted...

Bachelors of Science in Neurobiology at Davis
Master of Clinical Nurse Leader at UVA
Medicine 2nd year at UVA

damn thats impressive

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limp-bizkit-89 posted...

damn thats impressive

it would be if i wasnt 33 and just starting medicine lol

InfinityMonster posted...

Lmao, you're white. Why are you always posting this defensive and sheltered nonsense every single time this topic comes up despite tons of Hispanic people stating their uncomfortability with it?

No, it's not just Latino academics that use it. You're just telling on yourself by constantly repeating that, completely ignoring the increasing usage in media and advertising, the corporate world, and many other things. Your anecdotal experience in your small bubble is meaningless. I doubt you even talk to many people with your anger issues.

Many of us don't like this label the way it's growing in use, especially by profit driven assholes and white people. It's fine if people themselves want to identify as that. But the "Hispanic community" or "Latino community" in the past now regularly becoming the "Latinx community" will have people feel it's imposing no matter the intention. This is not hard to understand.

Gottem, coach.

Let's see if ol' RebelRouser will finally reply with something of actual substance instead of pulling the ol 'wHo'S aLt' card from his bosom.

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limp-bizkit-89 posted...

@Winrawr whats your bachelors? The masters youre doing?

@Shezarr what about you?

I ask because I am wondering if your different points of view stem from your different academic fields

BA in English, focusing on teaching ESL, MA in composition-rhetoric and teaching ESL. Lots of overlap with our linguistics department as well in my grad-level coursework. So I'd fully believe that my department(s) have more people with a focus on language and culture than STEM/nursing fields would (and I don't mean this as an insult, just a possible observation).

Vicious_Dios posted...

Gottem, coach.

Let's see if ol' RebelRouser will finally reply with something of actual substance instead of pulling the ol 'wHo'S aLt' card from his bosom.

Your opinions on this topic mean less than possibly anyone else on this board, with the exception of maybe SMAL. Literally all you are known for on this website is endlessly whining about how much you hate minorities.

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Shezarr posted...

BA in English, focusing on teaching ESL, MA in composition-rhetoric and teaching ESL. Lots of overlap with our linguistics department as well in my grad-level coursework. So I'd fully believe that my department(s) have more people with a focus on language and culture than STEM/nursing fields would (and I don't mean this as an insult, just a possible observation).

this is pretty cool too


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limp-bizkit-89 posted...

this is pretty cool too

Thanks!

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A word only has meaning when enough people agree on it. Of course different social spheres assign different meanings to words, and language is complicated like that.

But if you've ever read Frindle, then you know that words can be born, changed, and erased purely based on usage.

It's like the Native American vs. Indian debate. It really depends on where and who you are talking to.

I don't really use Latinx but I also barely use Latino/Latina, and if I do I'll usually just type Latino/a or speak Latino. But it's possible that in the future I'll use Latinx more because that'll be the common phrasing.

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Shezarr posted...

BA in English, focusing on teaching ESL, MA in composition-rhetoric and teaching ESL. Lots of overlap with our linguistics department as well in my grad-level coursework. So I'd fully believe that my department(s) have more people with a focus on language and culture than STEM/nursing fields would (and I don't mean this as an insult, just a possible observation).

Your opinions on this topic mean less than possibly anyone else on this board, with the exception of maybe SMAL. Literally all you are known for on this website is endlessly whining about how much you hate minorities.

Nursing is hyper focused on communicating with people of different cultures. For example, Hispanic communities tend to approach healthcare as a familial unit, and Caucasian western cultures tend to approach healthcare individualistically. My body, my gender, etc. In many ways, this can explain why Hispanics tend to learn more right, socially. I cannot express just how damaging it can be to address hispanic people as LatinX. They would honestly just laugh at you. In Virginia we tend to grab translators, however, although in Cali it is kinda expected for nurses to understand some spanish and speak directly to patients.

Nursing focuses much more culture and patient education than medicine.

I have become very acquainted with the hispanic community in Virginia through nursing, and it is dramatically different than the hispanic community in California where I am from. Cali is full of light-skinned mexicans predominantly because mexicans tend to be a mix of native american heritage and white, while SA (more SA immigrants than Mexican in East Coast) tend to be darker and have much more traditional perspectives on healthcare and culture

Shezarr posted...

BA

List of people who are surprised by this:

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Whenever this topic comes up there is always this one guy that comes out of the woodwork and is like: "Well aaachshuwly, a LatinX person came up from the term at a prestigeous liberal arts college and they know better"

It reminds me of when Herman Cain was alive and Republicans would say things all the time about how a "smart black man" believed in voting reform and other conservative talking points.

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Like I've already said, multiple times (every time a topic like this comes out in fact), latinx is stupid because:

1. Spanish is a gendered language. English is not.
2. Latin is already gender neutral. Why the fuck are you adding an x to it?
3. If you want to be "proper" you can follow in the footsteps of actual Spanish speakers and use e at the end to make words gender neutral, so you should use latine. Keep in mind almost no one uses this, the Royal Academy of the Spanish Language notes it is unnecessary to do so, and who knows if it'll ever gain any traction.

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I dont care if other people use it, but Id rather not have people use it on me

Trumble posted...

List of people who are surprised by this:

That I have a college education? Nobody should be since I post about education and academia semi-frequently.

kelemvor posted...

Whenever this topic comes up there is always this one guy that comes out of the woodwork and is like: "Well aaachshuwly, a LatinX person came up from the term at a prestigeous liberal arts college and they know better"

Can you point me in the direction of literally a single person ITT who said that? I must have missed it.

LordFarquad1312 posted...

the Royal Academy of the Spanish Language

lmfao irl. Prescriptivist organizations trying (and failing) to prevent language change or prescribe usage are the biggest joke of all when it comes to language.

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Shezarr posted...

Whose alt^

Nothing I said was incorrect. Really weird you'd think anybody calling out your obviously limited and possibly fake experiences you're passing off as normal, an alt.

Nah, seriously, I do have to question how sheltered you are if you haven't been hearing this increasingly in new movies and especially TV shows, music industry/Hollywood, commercials, events, articles, the news, all over social media, etc.

Lol, do you just go to school then come home to have Star Wars and Nazi related meltdowns on here till you fall asleep and miss everything else?

To say with a straight face that only academics are using it is either admitting you're extremely sheltered and have no idea what the fuck you're talking about or are trolling. Calling me an alt doesn't change any of that.

Vicious_Dios posted...

Gottem, coach.

Let's see if ol' RebelRouser will finally reply with something of actual substance instead of pulling the ol 'wHo'S aLt' card from his bosom.

He was never going to respond because there is no response. Rebel has been making up a fake narrative based purely off his few colleagues that represent absolutely nothing, as evidence for a while now.

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Shezarr posted...

lmfao irl. Prescriptivist organizations trying (and failing) to prevent language change or prescribe usage are the biggest joke of all when it comes to language.

Individuals trying to go against a decision by committee are a bigger joke.
Even then, you didn't deny that latinx is dumb and there are other terms you can use if you want to be inclusive.

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Shezarr posted...

Your opinions on this topic mean less than possibly

[Thinks to myself]

""Hmm, should I keep on reading? Absolutely. Wait, let's hear him out."

...anyone else on this board, with the exception of maybe SMAL. Literally all you are known for on this website is endlessly whining about how much you hate minorities.

Dang, as predicted, he really didnt say shit worth reading.



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LordFarquad1312 posted...

Individuals trying to go against a decision by committee are a bigger joke.

Language exists, changes, and is described by how it is used, not by what a "committee" decides. Committees are futile attempts to try to prescribe and limit linguistic evolution. Additionally, the RSE is in Spain and has nothing to do with LatAm varieties of Spanish.

LordFarquad1312 posted...

Even then, you didn't deny that latinx is dumb and there are other terms you can use if you want to be inclusive.

I don't personally use it unless someone uses it before me, but it's not "dumb." My personal stance on it has always been that I don't care either way (I mean, I'm a white person who doesn't speak Spanish beyond a basic level, so it's none of my business to argue for or against its usage). However, I will and do gladly argue for its linguistic validity as a word. As I've said, in my experience, the latinos I know in academe use it and those outside it don't. I was just this morning reading the most recent MLA journal and all the latinos therein described themselves as latinx. It has an agreed-upon meaning by those who use it and thus is a valid word.

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Lmao I dont give a shit

im calling hot latinas hot latinas

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Oh its THIS topic again.

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I4NRulez posted...

Oh its THIS topic again.

i have literally never seen this topic here