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Bass_X0
07/28/21 6:29:45 AM
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theres language in it that doesn't belong in a book for kids or young teens.

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pegusus123456
07/28/21 6:30:26 AM
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Move on with your life.

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unnamedsoldier
07/28/21 6:31:44 AM
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This is why manga is winning
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Bass_X0
07/28/21 6:31:52 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Move on with your life.

Now that its out, I think I Am Not Starfire will be the subject of several YouTube videos I watch.

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cjsdowg
07/28/21 6:42:23 AM
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  1. A lot of people are going to shit on this because they view at progressive, and that is it nothing else.
  2. This looks like shit, quality .
  3. Both can be true at the same time.

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Turtlebread
07/28/21 6:43:15 AM
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starfire is black

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Lorenzo_2003
07/28/21 6:44:38 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
theres language in it that doesn't belong in a book for kids or young teens.

For me, its more about the dialogue sounding clunky as Hell. I mean what teens actually talk like that?


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ultimate reaver
07/28/21 6:44:41 AM
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You should get your mom to make sure its ok to look at stuff before you read it, Im sorry this has happened to you

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BloodMoon7
07/28/21 6:50:42 AM
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Hey Mandy, this pasta alfredo? It's your mom's tits! Cause I like it very much? Heck yeah slammin'!

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Middle hope
07/28/21 6:51:29 AM
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UnfairRepresent
07/28/21 6:52:23 AM
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I remember Asterix and Obleix talking about who they want to fuck while onlookers praise their mom's tits

No wait... that never fucking happened

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BloodMoon7
07/28/21 6:53:21 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I remember Asterix and Obleix talking about who they want to fuck while onlookers praise their mom's tits

No wait... that never fucking happened
Well it should. Maybe then people would read superhero comics.

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Hornezz
07/28/21 6:53:44 AM
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I too am shocked and outraged at this. Someone think of the children!

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cjsdowg
07/28/21 6:55:28 AM
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Hornezz posted...
I too am shocked and outraged at this. Someone think of the children!

I am guessing the reason the TC brought up kids , is because many people were claiming that this book target demo was grade school kids .

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CyricZ
07/28/21 6:58:07 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen

We got em

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Kami_no_Kami
07/28/21 7:01:40 AM
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Turtlebread posted...
starfire is black
blackfire is star
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Ratchetrockon
07/28/21 7:01:59 AM
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Definitely middleschool target demographic. I could picture my 13 year old sister reading this tbh

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Umbreon
07/28/21 7:04:29 AM
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Not for kids maybe, but this is weaksauce for teenagers.

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Hornezz
07/28/21 7:15:16 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
I am guessing the reason the TC brought up kids , is because many people were claiming that this book target demo was grade school kids .
Yeah, we have to be thankful to all the outrage clickbait Youtubers protecting our youngest generation against the dangers of having to read the word tits.

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UnfairRepresent
07/28/21 7:18:30 AM
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Hornezz posted...
Yeah, we have to be thankful to all the outrage clickbait Youtubers protecting our youngest generation against the dangers of having to read the word tits.
Oh stop it

I have no dog in this fight and even I can't deny how shit that comic looks.

From the art to the character design to the dialogue..

Don't deflect to shitty youtubers to act like this doesn't look awful

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cjsdowg
07/28/21 7:22:15 AM
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Hornezz posted...
Yeah, we have to be thankful to all the outrage clickbait Youtubers protecting our youngest generation against the dangers of having to read the word tits.

See post 5

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Hornezz
07/28/21 7:23:34 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Oh stop it

I have no dog in this fight and even I can't deny how shit that comic looks.

From the art to the character design to the dialogue..

Don't deflect to shitty youtubers to act like this doesn't look awful
So?

There's millions of products aimed at kids and teens that don't look appealing to me. You won't see me get outraged about it though. Let alone record myself going on long winded rants.

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BloodMoon7
07/28/21 7:25:25 AM
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I don't actually see anything wrong with it.

That's how you know it's shit, it gets the BloodMoon7 Seal of Approval.

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Shadilay
07/28/21 7:32:25 AM
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Turtlebread posted...
starfire is black

You'd think DC making it official then the kid should at least carry on with the heritage, but nope, gotta make the daughter lilly white.
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viewmaster_pi
07/28/21 7:36:12 AM
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they're so alternative! i, as a fellow hot topic shopper, can relate to these characters! they get me

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Garioshi
07/28/21 7:36:34 AM
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unnamedsoldier posted...
This is why manga is winning
Mate, manga aimed at 12 year-olds has had enough gore to make Jigsaw blush since the 80's. Dragon Ball showed a naked minor multiple times within its first couple of months of runtime.

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BloodMoon7
07/28/21 7:38:01 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Mate, manga aimed at 12 year-olds has had enough gore to make Jigsaw blush since the 80's. Dragon Ball showed a naked minor multiple times within its first couple of months of runtime.
This is why manga is winning.

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regina1914
07/28/21 7:38:23 AM
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Entertainment is being systematically destroyed
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SpiritSephiroth
07/28/21 7:52:32 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Mate, manga aimed at 12 year-olds has had enough gore to make Jigsaw blush since the 80's. Dragon Ball showed a naked minor multiple times within its first couple of months of runtime.

Shit back in the day wouldn't roll now. At least in American society. Who would've thought? Thats not just a Manga problem.


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SpiritSephiroth
07/28/21 7:53:07 AM
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Bass_X0
07/28/21 7:54:13 AM
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https://youtu.be/sA7rbOrdmqs

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spikethedevil
07/28/21 8:01:13 AM
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Remember when people could just accept something isnt for them without having to REEEEEE about it endlessly?

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jpenny2
07/28/21 8:03:56 AM
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I just read through it to see what it's like. I'd say it's not as horrible as it seems, but it doesn't tell any kind of interesting story. A girl is kind of an outsider who lives in her pretty, popular mother's shadow--it's been done a thousand times and much better. The main character is thoroughly unlikable, and I don't like the art style.

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SpiritSephiroth
07/28/21 8:04:05 AM
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Been reading up on twitter about this. Seems like everyone hates it, and are calling the writer out for being a shitty person overall.

Also it doesnt seem to be for kids? Im seeing a lot of swear words and writing about fucking people in the comic.

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Bass_X0
07/28/21 8:07:17 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Remember when people could just accept something isnt for them without having to REEEEEE about it endlessly?

that attitude doesnt get clicks.

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spikethedevil
07/28/21 8:09:06 AM
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...
people no longer have freedom of speech to call out something for being poorly written.

Where did anyone even imply this?

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SpiritSephiroth
07/28/21 8:09:49 AM
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Geez! I don't really keep up with American comic books personally but since I was looking into I am not Starfire, I've been coming across other comics.

This isn't good writing is it? It feels really out of place and extremely cringy. I mean, who would write this?

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SpiritSephiroth
07/28/21 8:11:07 AM
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I think Im gonna stop now. I keep doing deeper into this rabbit hole. I'll do something else.

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spikethedevil
07/28/21 8:12:07 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Where did anyone even imply this?

Why delete your post after it was quoted? @Beveren_Rabbit

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viewmaster_pi
07/28/21 8:22:47 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
This isn't good writing is it? It feels really out of place and extremely cringy. I mean, who would write this?
correct, it's painful

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MrMallard
07/28/21 8:24:29 AM
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Oh no, a teen character made a comment about another character's mom's tits. In 13 Reasons Why, a kid gets forcibly sodomized in a school bathroom with a broom handle. That shit is aimed at teenagers too, and while it's aimed at older teens, its focus on "starting a conversation" is intended to solidify it as a cultural touchstone for children of the 2010's. Its popularity is intended to cross boundaries and speak truth to power.

13 Reasons Why is an exploitative pile of dogshit, granted, but it shows that the envelope has been pushed further than what we grew up with. Even kid's cartoons like She-Ra, Infinity Train and The Owl House are tackling more complex issues than our beloved childhood media - though I'd say that Avatar: The Last Airbender was a trailblazer in that regard. So this comic is a bit edgy - as if you didn't grow up hearing worse.

From my recollection, teens swear at each other and make inappropriate comments. The harassment and abuse you face in high school is arguably worse than a lot of harassment and abuse you face in the real world, because outside of some extreme circumstances, you can get away with punching another person in the head without that other person being able to press any charges. Some of the nasty shit you hear in high school dies out in high school, because the adult world - to a degree - is less tolerant of it. High school is where a lot of people are probably at their worst as they try to define their boundaries.

Comments like this happen - at least in my experience - as early as fifth or sixth grade sometimes. It doesn't just sprout up in high school where everyone's basically halfway through puberty. If anything, this is safe, comparatively tame teen dialogue that aims to scratch something more controversial by falling back onto a recognised and more sanitized trope - a joke about your mother - as opposed to going somewhere more realistic, like comments about eating out someone's mom's bush.

In short, unless you grew up in a Mormon family or went to a religious school of some kind, I doubt this would actually be that shocking to you compared to what you grew up around. That, or my experience is an outlier. Either/or.

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JE19426
07/28/21 8:32:23 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
This isn't good writing is it? It feels really out of place and extremely cringy.

Why pick a random page to show and commend that it feels out of place. Of course it feels out of place, it's a random page from a comic. Maybe it's supposed to be cringy.

I mean, who would write this?

Emilia Clarke wrote, it's from her debut comic, M.O.M Mother of Madness. I'm not sure what you are getting at here.
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SpiritSephiroth
07/28/21 8:37:55 AM
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JE19426 posted...
Why pick a random page to show and commend that it feels out of place. Of course it feels out of place, it's a random page from a comic. Maybe it's supposed to be cringy.

So wait. Is it supposed to be cringy or is it cringy because theres no context?

You're kinda sending mixed messages dude.

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JE19426
07/28/21 8:38:38 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
So wait. Is it supposed to be cringy or is it cringy because theres no context?

You're kinda sending mixed messages dude.

I have no idea, I haven't read the issue.
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spikethedevil
07/28/21 8:51:12 AM
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JE19426 posted...
I have no idea, I haven't read the issue.

Its a graphic novel.

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JE19426
07/28/21 8:53:29 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Its a graphic novel.

Image says it's a mini-series.

https://imagecomics.com/comics/releases/m-o-m-mother-of-madness-1-of-3
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Returning_CEmen
07/28/21 8:57:08 AM
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Does t seem any different than how kids actually talk.

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spikethedevil
07/28/21 9:03:31 AM
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JE19426 posted...
Image says it's a mini-series.

https://imagecomics.com/comics/releases/m-o-m-mother-of-madness-1-of-3

My bad.

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Bass_X0
07/28/21 9:06:20 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
I am guessing the reason the TC brought up kids , is because many people were claiming that this book target demo was grade school kids .

thats what I heard and was told to believe.

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Tyranthraxus
07/28/21 9:13:57 AM
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It was clearly marketed as a YA graphic novel. It's exactly the quality I'd expect from a YA graphic novel as well.

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