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CyricZ 07/29/21 11:25:36 AM #1: |
https://www.doctorwho.tv/news/?article=jodie-whittaker-chris-chibnall-leave-doctor-who
Gonna be three more specials in 2022 and then bye. Like I wanted this era to be good, but it just... wasn't... to me. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 07/29/21 11:27:45 AM #2: |
Just bring back David Tennant or Matt Smith and I'll watch again.
The new actress suuuuuuucks. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Senta 07/29/21 11:30:29 AM #3: |
It isnt even that Jodie Whittaker is bad; she is actually quite good...
It's the fact that Chibnall's writing and stories are terrible when he has control. No good direction, no well written characters, nada. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trelve 07/29/21 11:31:37 AM #4: |
Whittaker wasn't the problem - Chris Chibnall was. But now we're both leaving we'll never get to see what Jodie Whittaker could be like with good writers.
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Slayer_22 07/29/21 11:32:07 AM #5: |
Senta posted...
It isnt even that Jodie Whittaker is bad; she is actually quite good... That's fair enough. I haven't seen her in anything else, to be fair, so my first judgement on her as an actress is the series. A bad director can make a good actor look terrible, especially in a TV series. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 07/29/21 11:32:10 AM #6: |
Yup I agree.
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 11:32:56 AM #7: |
Slayer_22 posted...
The new actress suuuuuuucks.Not really. Jodie just got a Colin Baker style screwjob from the terrible writing. New Who is just an overall screwjob for the actors anyway. "Three" series (and random specials) stretched out over five or six years, and pretty much locked in exclusively over that span. Contrast with Tom Baker, who's seven seasons was more or less seven actual years. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame Zero 07/29/21 11:33:23 AM #8: |
It sucks that she's leaving because I really liked her. She was just squandered by Chibnall as head writer, who I am perfectly fine with stepping down
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Slayer_22 07/29/21 11:34:28 AM #9: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Yeah, like I said, I was judging based on what I saw. But bad directing can ruin good stuff, so that's my bad if she actually has talent that was just squandered. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 11:36:12 AM #10: |
Slayer_22 posted...
Just bring back David Tennant or Matt Smith and I'll watch again.The "lore" completely allows repeats now. Sneaking in a half-season of "Curator" episodes would be great, and better hurry the hell up while Tom is still alive. Or, bring in Sean Pertwee as a third-doctor revisit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelsNAirwav3s 07/29/21 11:36:38 AM #11: |
Get woke go broke
Actually I dont know anything about Dr Who, but I heard this writer has just been shitting on all the old established canon? --- Hello world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 11:38:02 AM #12: |
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
but I heard this writer has just been shitting on all the old established canon?To be fair, Doctor Who canon has been extremely loose and fluid since roughly forever. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 07/29/21 11:39:48 AM #13: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Excellent. I haven't seen either in a whole lot recently, so I'd love to see them back if they're open to it. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 07/29/21 11:49:15 AM #14: |
A shame, as Jodie is great.
Hopefully they get better writers for whoever is next. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 07/29/21 11:51:36 AM #15: |
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
but I heard this writer has just been shitting on all the old established canon?This is not remotely out of tune for any given new showrunner. Davies did it. Moffat did it a lot. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 11:55:40 AM #16: |
CyricZ posted...
Davies did it. Moffat did it a lot.So did Terrance Dicks. Doctor Who canon has always been a mess. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WeeWeiWiiWie 07/29/21 11:58:44 AM #17: |
Yeah, Jodie was great. Just an issue with the writing.
It's not even like the stories and concepts weren't good (notable exception: --- Stabilized. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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archedsoul 07/29/21 12:03:26 PM #18: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
To be fair, Doctor Who canon has been extremely loose and fluid since roughly forever.Ehhh, it was going fine till the last episode of last season where they did some That was just dropping the ball and I wouldn't be surprised he was kicked. There were already rumors going around back then that Jodie is leaving. They probably coincided kicking him as she was leaving any way. Even then, I actually really enjoyed the --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 12:03:41 PM #19: |
WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
an anti-climatic asspull the last 3 minutesalso a long-time series staple. The problem is that the show is trying to bludgeon a lesson into our heads. Yes, that's also a series staple, but it was usually a brief moralization monologue sometime in the middle of episode 3 of a four-parter. Incidentally, the insistence on "themed" lessons is a large part of what made the Colin era a disaster. Chibnal doesn't even bother with allegory though. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trelve 07/29/21 12:08:38 PM #20: |
Slayer_22 posted...
Just bring back David Tennant or Matt Smith and I'll watch again.If you're open to audio dramas, then both Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant have reprised their roles on audio. https://www.bigfinish.com/ranges/v/doctor-who-the-ninth-doctor-adventures https://www.bigfinish.com/ranges/v/doctor-who---the-tenth-doctor-adventures ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 12:10:03 PM #21: |
Trelve posted...
If you're open to audio dramasBig Finish is sitting on a goldmine, were they to ever bother animating anything. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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archedsoul 07/29/21 12:11:03 PM #22: |
Trelve posted...
If you're open to audio dramas, then both Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant have reprised their roles on audio.Wait, Christopher "I never bathe in the same river twice. Eccleston finally returned to DW in some fashion? --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WeeWeiWiiWie 07/29/21 12:17:55 PM #23: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
also a long-time series staple. Ehh, yes and no. There was far more conflict development in the past episodes. In these episodes, the moment anything is revealed about what's going on, they had the doctor just immediately wave her magic wand and the issue is solved. --- Stabilized. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CommonStar 07/29/21 12:19:57 PM #24: |
Damn what a shame. Jodie was great. And I liked the little group they had, but the writing was just so bad.
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 12:20:17 PM #25: |
WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
In these episodes, the moment anything is revealed about what's going on, they had the doctor just immediately wave her magic wand and the issue is solved.That's fair. Ye olde days would reveal the "truth" about halfway in, and have several false asspulls until the last three minutes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 07/29/21 12:20:20 PM #26: |
Next doctors will be:
14th Doctor: Stephen Fry 15th Doctor: Jimmy Carr 16th Doctor: Nicola Roberts 17th Doctor: Simon Cowell 18th Doctor: Donald Trump 19th Doctor: Joe Biden 20th Doctor: Tucker Carlson --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 12:22:16 PM #27: |
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18th Doctor: Donald Trump Given the slow-ass scheduling of the show, I don't think either one will still be alive in 2050-somthing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom Clark 07/29/21 12:36:48 PM #28: |
Jodie leaving has been an open secret for a long time.
Thank fuck Chibnall is going, too, though. My only worry is that, with how hard it apparently was to find a replacement showrunner when Moffat left, they may struggle even more now given that the show's stock has definitely plummeted over recent years - especially since the new team's first job will likely be the 60th anniversary celebration, which would be a baptism of fire. With falling ratings, far more negative fan reception and the sporadic scheduling keeping it from the public eye all meaning that the show isn't the cornerstone of BBC1 that it used to be, I'm a bit paranoid that they may use this as an excuse to quietly retire the series if a new production team proves too tricky to put together. But that's probably (hopefully?) just the part of me that remembers the 89 cancellation talking. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom Clark 07/29/21 12:42:46 PM #29: |
To add, I have no problem with Jodie as an actress, she's actually been very good in everything else I've seen her in.
She was just horribly mismanaged in Who. The Doctor felt like just part of the ensemble in both her seasons so far rather than the main character (I'd say that Bradley Walsh felt like the lead in Jodie's first season, actually, and in the second - even though they weren't in it much - Sacha Dhawan and Weirdly, for me the time when she was at her Doctoriest, and the only time that she felt like the actual star of the franchise, was when she put on the coat and made a quick video from her bedroom cupboard to reassure all the kids at home who were scared when the pandemic started. She was actually brilliant there. Like Trelve says, she got Colin'd. Here's hoping her Big Finish stuff ends up as good as his. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 12:45:54 PM #30: |
Tom Clark posted...
My only worry is that, with how hard it apparently was to find a replacement showrunner when Moffat left, they may struggle even more now given that the show's stock has definitely plummeted over recent years - especially since the new team's first job will likely be the 60th anniversary celebration, which would be a baptism of fire.So... you're saying Terry Gilliam has a chance? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom Clark 07/29/21 12:47:51 PM #31: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
So... you're saying Terry Gilliam has a chance? To be honest, if they struggle as much as they did to replace Moffat, you and me might have a chance, haha. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 12:55:17 PM #32: |
Tom Clark posted...
you and me might have a chance, haha...isn't this how Chibnall got the job? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Goldice 07/29/21 12:57:01 PM #33: |
Have seen Jodie in other stuff. It's not her acting that's a problem.
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Tom Clark 07/29/21 1:00:06 PM #34: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
...isn't this how Chibnall got the job? We can only do better. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 1:00:18 PM #35: |
archedsoul posted...
Ehhh, it was going fine till the last episode of last season where...Again, doesn't matter. The show discards canon about as regularly as it piles it on. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 07/29/21 1:03:28 PM #36: |
And here I am, still haven't watched beyond the 12th Doctor's first season.
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Tom Clark 07/29/21 3:29:00 PM #37: |
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 3:42:00 PM #39: |
ClunkerSlim posted...
It opens so many possibilities and finally Brain of Morbius makes sense. "The Other" has been floating around the Who lore for quite a while. Timeless Child isn't anything new. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YellowSUV 07/29/21 3:49:17 PM #41: |
Good thing Chibnall will not be there for 2023. Now there is a chance the 60th anniversary special might be good.
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Questionmarktarius 07/29/21 3:50:04 PM #42: |
ClunkerSlim posted...
So I dont know why everyone got so worked up.Chibnall disdain runs so deep, that nobody knows what to do when he actually gets into actual lore. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skermac 07/29/21 3:52:06 PM #43: |
I quit after tom baker left
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Gamerguymass 07/29/21 5:02:33 PM #44: |
Well it's about damn time. People can blame everything on Chibnall and the writing all they want, but she did absolutely nothing memorable. There was nothing worth watching for with her acting. People can say she is so great in all this other stuff, but that means nothing to me when she sucks in Doctor Who.
Ironically the one episode I actually somewhat liked the most from this era is one that I think most everyone else hates. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TendoDRM 07/29/21 5:05:52 PM #45: |
Slayer_22 posted...
That's fair enough. I haven't seen her in anything else, to be fair, so my first judgement on her as an actress is the series.Definitely check out Broadchurch. Amazing series, stars David Tenant, Olivia Colman, and Jodie Whitaker. --- Cel Damage! Tonight at 8:00! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 07/29/21 5:06:24 PM #46: |
Chris Chinballs
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spikethedevil 07/29/21 5:07:28 PM #47: |
Slayer_22 posted...
Just bring back David Tennant or Matt Smith and I'll watch again. Did I walk into the digital spy forums? Considering she was voted the 2nd favourite Doctor I would say the haters are an online vocal minority and iirc season 10 had the worst ratings and season 12s were on the up. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DB_Insider 07/29/21 5:08:32 PM #48: |
Slayer_22 posted...
Just bring back David Tennant or Matt Smith and I'll watch again.Bring back the Dark Elf Cristopher Eccleston ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChocoboMogALT 07/29/21 5:35:59 PM #49: |
Gamerguymass posted...
Well it's about damn time. People can blame everything on Chibnall and the writing all they want, but she did absolutely nothing memorable. There was nothing worth watching for with her acting. People can say she is so great in all this other stuff, but that means nothing to me when she sucks in Doctor Who.This is like sayng Robert Pattinson is a bad actor in Twilight. Sometimes you just can't save bad writing. --- "We live in a country Hasire.." ~ yosouf06 REVOLVER STAKE! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/ChocoboMog123/AltEisenRChocoboMog.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DB_Insider 07/29/21 5:43:25 PM #50: |
Rose tyler comfirmed to be next timeless child once she rid of her temporal matter and rip through another reality where the dalek never destroyed the time lords
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