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bigblu89
08/03/21 1:54:42 PM
#101:


Duncanwii posted...
I dont know, the being only able to drive 2 hours a week thing seems pretty totalitarian to me. Also not very possible in a society like ours, a lot of places require more then two hours to get to in most parts of the country.

Which is why it was an asinine suggestion by him to begin with.

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DeadBankerDream
08/03/21 2:28:10 PM
#102:


Kolibri X posted...
Every group has its boogeyman they desperately try to pin all of their problems on. Communists, racists, immigrants, minorities, the unvaxxed. How does feel to take the wrong side of history and bootlick the loafers of tyrants?
Why are you pretending that McCarthyism doesn't get you erect enough to pound your trump cutout figure?

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UnfairRepresent
08/03/21 2:33:14 PM
#103:


Kevin Sorbo steps up with a brave and bold stance:

https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1422588922870259712

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Collat
08/03/21 2:35:15 PM
#104:


Questionmarktarius posted...
"Fuck your rights! I'm scared!!"
More like "I don't care if a selfish piece of shit doesn't get to go to a concert"

Nobody vaccinated is scared. They just want shit back to normal. A shame they gotta do it with a bunch of babies kicking and screaming the whole way.
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bigblu89
08/03/21 2:44:41 PM
#105:


Collat posted...
More like "I don't care if a selfish piece of shit doesn't get to go to a concert"

Nobody vaccinated is scared. They just want shit back to normal. A shame they gotta do it with a bunch of babies kicking and screaming the whole way.
That 2nd line is so true.

Everyone I know that is vaccinated has no issues with these new mandates.


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LostForest
08/03/21 2:56:12 PM
#106:


There's absolutely modern precedent for limiting rights in the interest of public health.

See: smoking bans

Only a couple decades ago, people had the "right" to smoke in airplanes, stadiums, stores, and restaurants. Then it was eliminated because other people have the right to not be harmed by your lifestyle choices.

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One_Day_Remains
08/03/21 3:35:09 PM
#107:


Houston posted...


Do you want the government to decide when something is deemed important enough to take such measures that restricts freedoms of people? This is not individual restaurants or bars choosing whether or not they can ask for proof, which is egregious enough, but rather the government forcing them to.

Do you want them 10 years from now to say now you have to have a passport to travel between states because of "global warming" and you have to pay a fee to get a special card? Or that you can't drive to see your friend because you've already had 2 hours of drive time in a given week and don't have the proper credentials to operate your vehicle anymore?

Do you want them to put restrictions on your air conditioning because you didn't type in a special code on the app that controls your air conditioner that proves you've met your global warming requirements to be allowed to set your house to 70 degrees?

There's a whole entire host of dangers allowing them to force something like this. It completely takes away people's rights and it'll be even easier for them to take the next step, in whatever they want to do in the future.


So basically you don't have anything but strawmen lol
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One_Day_Remains
08/03/21 3:38:52 PM
#108:


You literally already live in a country that requires you to have ID to do a large number of things and attend a large number of places, but suddenly now it's a problem when it's regarding a health and safety concern. You don't actually believe any of that crap lmao you just don't want to get vaccinated
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Questionmarktarius
08/03/21 3:43:36 PM
#109:


LostForest posted...
Only a couple decades ago, people had the "right" to smoke in airplanes, stadiums, stores, and restaurants. Then it was eliminated because other people have the right to not be harmed by your lifestyle choices.
Similarly, a bunch of private businesses will resist this also, until bludgeoned into compliance.

National chains will hop on board yesterday, though probably not pay someone to check everyone at the door. Sal's Diner, however, is going to actively and openly flout it.
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F1areaGaman
08/03/21 3:46:24 PM
#110:


Still not FDA approved

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F1areaGaman
08/03/21 3:49:23 PM
#111:


LostForest posted...
There's absolutely modern precedent for limiting rights in the interest of public health.

See: smoking bans

Only a couple decades ago, people had the "right" to smoke in airplanes, stadiums, stores, and restaurants. Then it was eliminated because other people have the right to not be harmed by your lifestyle choices.

Theres a large difference between forcing a trial vaccine to enter somewhere and telling someone not to smoke in the building.

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mustachedmystic
08/03/21 3:57:27 PM
#112:


F1areaGaman posted...
Theres a large difference between forcing a trial vaccine to enter somewhere and telling someone not to smoke in the building.
Instead of beating the trial label like a dead horse, why not open your eyes, and youll see that 70% of Americans have at least one dose, and statistically insignificant numbers of serious side effects mean the vaccines are in fact very safe.

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Cuticrusader09
08/03/21 3:58:57 PM
#113:


One_Day_Remains posted...
You literally already live in a country that requires you to have ID to a large number of things and attend a large number of places, but suddenly now it's a problem when it's regarding a health and safety concern. You don't actually believe any of that crap lmao you just don't want to get vaccinated

NY does not require ID to vote though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_identification_laws_in_the_United_States
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Sportsaholic
08/03/21 4:26:28 PM
#114:


Houston posted...
Very, very dangerous precedent.

Indeed. For a place like NYC, with their politicians, Im not surprised. Im expecting cities in California to do something similar eventually.

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David1988
08/03/21 4:34:17 PM
#115:


Good, ID required to vote is still bad though and infringes on freedoms.

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ZMythos
08/03/21 4:50:25 PM
#116:


Houston posted...
There's a whole entire host of dangers allowing them to force something like this. It completely takes away people's rights and it'll be even easier for them to take the next step, in whatever they want to do in the future.

It doesn't, and there's no danger to it. Also if you're unvaccinated then you're infringing on other people's rights by default.

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Questionmarktarius
08/03/21 4:55:49 PM
#117:


F1areaGaman posted...
Theres a large difference between forcing a trial vaccine to enter somewhere and telling someone not to smoke in the building.
No, not really.
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Collat
08/03/21 4:58:54 PM
#118:


F1areaGaman posted...
Still not FDA approved
You people really cling to that.

What are you going to do when it inevitably is approved?

F1areaGaman posted...
Theres a large difference between forcing a trial vaccine to enter somewhere and telling someone not to smoke in the building.
Yeah. The smoking in the building is much less harmful.
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MrDrMan
08/03/21 5:07:11 PM
#119:


Houston posted...
Do you want the government to decide when something is deemed important enough to take such measures that restricts freedoms of people? This is not individual restaurants or bars choosing whether or not they can ask for proof, which is egregious enough, but rather the government forcing them to.

Do you want them 10 years from now to say now you have to have a passport to travel between states because of "global warming" and you have to pay a fee to get a special card? Or that you can't drive to see your friend because you've already had 2 hours of drive time in a given week and don't have the proper credentials to operate your vehicle anymore?

Do you want them to put restrictions on your air conditioning because you didn't type in a special code on the app that controls your air conditioner that proves you've met your global warming requirements to be allowed to set your house to 70 degrees?

There's a whole entire host of dangers allowing them to force something like this. It completely takes away people's rights and it'll be even easier for them to take the next step, in whatever they want to do in the future.

There is no right to employment. Most employment is at will which means you can and will be fired whenever the business deems it necessary.

People use rights when they dont even know what their rights are. You have the right to make a choice. You dont have the right to make a choice and face no consequences though. Going into a private business is not a right. Being employed at any particular business is not a right.

This is stuff that has existed for years. Its no different than asking for a drug screen. Thats how stuff works. You guys act like you were born yesterday. This isnt new.

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Intro2Logic
08/03/21 5:18:11 PM
#120:


If you let the government do this, then next thing you know, they'll be placing limits on how much meat you can consume because of World War II

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Antifar
08/03/21 5:20:15 PM
#121:


Houston posted...
Do you want them 10 years from now to say now you have to have a passport to travel between states
This is actually how the world already works. Your example of tyranny run amok is the current international order.

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thekosmicfool part 2
08/03/21 5:29:15 PM
#122:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Kevin Sorbo steps up with a brave and bold stance:

https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1422588922870259712

I eagerly await Lucy Lawless smacking his ass down with a reply.

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LostForest
08/03/21 7:15:23 PM
#123:


F1areaGaman posted...
Theres a large difference between forcing a trial vaccine to enter somewhere and telling someone not to smoke in the building.

I dunno, I wouldn't call it large. It's a small difference. The only difference is that smokers can choose to temporarily deactivate the part of them that can harm others.

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Sportsaholic
08/03/21 9:48:00 PM
#124:


thekosmicfool part 2 posted...
I eagerly await Lucy Lawless smacking his ass down with a reply.

Lol great tweet from Sorbo

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What_
08/03/21 9:48:09 PM
#125:


Noice
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AngelsNAirwav3s
08/04/21 6:09:43 PM
#126:


So 70% of black people in New York City are no longer allowed to eat indoors or go to gyms? Is this systemic racism?

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hockeybub89
08/04/21 6:13:52 PM
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David1988
08/04/21 6:16:07 PM
#128:


AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
So 70% of black people in New York City are no longer allowed to eat indoors or go to gyms? Is this systemic racism?

Pretty sure number of unvaccinated in the black community isnt that high, but wouldnt surprise me if 40-50% are like the rest of the population

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hockeybub89
08/04/21 6:18:17 PM
#129:


Intro2Logic posted...
If you let the government do this, then next thing you know, they'll be placing limits on how much meat you can consume because of World War II
Yeah just look what happened after they made us wear seatbelts and put on pants. It will be punishable by death to not worship Marxist Lord Joe Biden by the end of the week.

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Hornswoggled
08/04/21 6:21:34 PM
#130:


Antifar posted...
This is actually how the world already works. Your example of tyranny run amok is the current international order.

So Wingsofredemption was right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JYq-mAyE_g&ab_channel=WingsHub

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hockeybub89
08/04/21 6:21:48 PM
#131:


You know what, it's actually very hypocritical that anti-vaxxers wear seatbelts. Seatbelts literally only protect you and yet the government will fine you for choosing not to do it.

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Payzmaykr
08/04/21 6:22:39 PM
#132:


Nice. Now instate a tax penalty for anyone without the vaccine who cannot prove that they have medical reasons they cant get it.

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Dark_SilverX
08/04/21 6:22:45 PM
#133:


F1areaGaman posted...
Theres a large difference between forcing a trial vaccine to enter somewhere and telling someone not to smoke in the building.
That guy you are responding to has Biden wool in his eyelids.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
08/04/21 6:46:35 PM
#134:


David1988 posted...
Pretty sure number of unvaccinated in the black community isnt that high, but wouldnt surprise me if 40-50% are like the rest of the population

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-vaccines.page#nyc

76% of Asians in NYC have at least 1 shot, 49% of whites, 35% of blacks.

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David1988
08/04/21 6:51:56 PM
#135:


AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-vaccines.page#nyc

76% of Asians in NYC have at least 1 shot, 49% of whites, 35% of blacks.

Damn, well guess this new policy will disproportionately affect African Americans, tough luck, its not like they never had to deal with government policies making their lives harder.

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hockeybub89
08/04/21 7:10:41 PM
#136:


AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-vaccines.page#nyc

76% of Asians in NYC have at least 1 shot, 49% of whites, 35% of blacks.
No one ever said only white people are stupid fucking anti-vaxxers who need to get over themselves.

There is no logic to anyone's fucking fears or concerns. They have no problem listening to what idiots tell them. Maybe they should try experts instead.

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Cemith
08/04/21 7:12:47 PM
#137:


Wedge Antilles posted...
Good


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PC-Builder_Pony
08/04/21 7:14:21 PM
#138:


Yikes NYC

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RickyTheBAWSE
08/04/21 7:21:47 PM
#139:


looks like many undesirables will be getting phased out
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David1988
08/04/21 7:25:22 PM
#140:


hockeybub89 posted...
No one ever said only white people are stupid fucking anti-vaxxers who need to get over themselves.

There is no logic to anyone's fucking fears or concerns. They have no problem listening to what idiots tell them. Maybe they should try experts instead.

I dont think he said people are saying only white people are anti-vaxxers, I dont know where you got that from. Seems he was just pointing out African Americans will be disproportionately affected by this policy because they have much lower percentage of vaccinated people, hence he was asking whether this new policy might be systemic racism. Obviously the policy doesnt remotely have anything do with systemic racism, I agree with your overall sentiment, who gives a shit if African Americans are disproportionately affected by this policy, idiots who dont want to listen and get vaccinated has to face consequences regardless of their race.

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PoundGarden
08/04/21 7:38:11 PM
#141:


Kolibri X posted...
It will get worse if people let them do this. Another group of people they want to exclude from society

Selfish conspiracy theory assholes?

Hm, what say you, Weyoun?



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PoundGarden
08/04/21 7:43:09 PM
#142:


Also: *laughs in Pfizer*

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hockeybub89
08/04/21 7:43:21 PM
#143:


PC-Builder_Pony posted...
Yikes NYC
I can't wait until it happens where you live. I might actually respect Biden if he gets something like this to happen nationwide. Anti-vaxxers need to be handled before they hurt more people. Diseases aren't beliefs. You have no goddamn right to share them with anyone.

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Bleuets
08/04/21 7:43:37 PM
#144:


Damn, lots of racism going on here.
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PoundGarden
08/04/21 7:48:23 PM
#145:


hockeybub89 posted...
Diseases aren't beliefs. You have no goddamn right to share them with anyone.

I still don't like you, but well done if you thought that up yourself. There really is no counter to that statement

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SauI_Goodman
08/04/21 7:54:37 PM
#146:


justaguy3492 posted...
Yeah I'm all for requiring proof, but it'd be nice if it was better than that card. I've had mine in my wallet since March and it's starting to look a little rough.
I just took a picture of mine. I aint carrying that thing around everywhere.

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Houston
08/04/21 7:57:34 PM
#147:


hockeybub89 posted...
I can't wait until it happens where you live. I might actually respect Biden if he gets something like this to happen nationwide. Anti-vaxxers need to be handled before they hurt more people. Diseases aren't beliefs. You have no goddamn right to share them with anyone.

Good thing there are some states that actually passed laws that are now signed into office and/or executive orders that ban things like NYC is doing.

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hockeybub89
08/04/21 8:01:53 PM
#148:


PoundGarden posted...
I still don't like you, but well done if you thought that up yourself. There really is no counter to that statement
lol thanks. That one's all me.

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hockeybub89
08/04/21 8:05:22 PM
#149:


Houston posted...
Good thing there are some states that actually passed laws that are now signed into office and/or executive orders that ban things like NYC is doing.
I sure hope you don't wear a seatbelt. Who is the government to tell you to protect yourself in your own car? You have personal beliefs and no liberals are gonna take them away from you and save you from yourself.

Personally, I think it's wrong to ban people from telling you to stop killing each other. You'd think anti-abortion conservatives would hate letting people harm other people due to their own poor choices, but I guess the already born don't have a right to life.

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Bleuets
08/04/21 8:06:35 PM
#150:


This is basically systematic racism and it makes me sick to my stomach.
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