Current Events > Mexico to sue US gun manufacturers for influx of guns illegally crossing border

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/mexico-usa-guns-border-weapons-b1896896.html

The Mexican government has announced it is suing several US gun manufacturers, alleging that insufficient controls have led to the illegal flow of weapons over the border.
The legal action seeks unspecified financial compensation from the companies, reports The Washington Post, and does not target the U.S. government.
Mexican authorities believe US-made weapons have contributed to the shattering violence that has plagued parts of the country over the past ten years.

Legal gun sales in Mexico are tightly restricted, but around 2.5 million illicit American guns have been brought across the border in the last decade, according to a Mexican government study released last year.

The lawsuit maintains that the U.S. arms manufacturers are conscious of the fact that their products are trafficked and used in illicit activities against the civilian population and authorities of Mexico, according to a document from the Foreign Ministry.

Bueno
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Soon:
"For use only in USA"

That sounds like a bad idea with what also flows the other way

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.... maybe they should build a wall
and make america pay for it

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Can we sue them for all the fucking drugs coming across the opposite way

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Theyre going to win too. This is like Fast & Furious all over again

DuranOfForcena posted...

but if it's the Mexican government, then most of the money would probably be going to cartels. likely ironically to buy more guns.

It'll end up being just like that time Nintendo mailed everyone a $5 coupon to buy another Nintendo game.

Ah yes, blame the makers, not the people trafficking. Speaking of trafficking...

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I dunno I think it's a problem that people who illegally traffic guns to Mexico are able to acquire said guns from these manufacturers to begin with. 2.5 mil is a lot of guns.
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Lol, good luck with that

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Can we sue Mexico for them smuggling in drugs then?

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gmanthebest posted...

Ah yes, blame the makers, not the people trafficking. Speaking of trafficking...

Lawyers go after who has the money, not who's actually responsible.

gmanthebest posted...

Ah yes, blame the makers, not the people trafficking. Speaking of trafficking...

Or, or, or blame both

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irony at its finest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

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DirkDiggles posted...

Can we sue Mexico for them smuggling in drugs then?

Smashingpmkns posted...

The legal action seeks unspecified financial compensation from the companies, reports The Washington Post, and does not target the U.S. government.

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gmanthebest posted...

Ah yes, blame the makers, not the people trafficking. Speaking of trafficking...

Who's to say they're not one and the same?

CommonStar posted...

Who's to say they're not one and the same?

Theyre not? More likely some shady politicians still involved with the gun smuggling. Cant really fault manufacturers for that.

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But I was told all of the illegal guns are smuggles into the US by the cartels!!!

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Mexico is pretty much proof of the "then only criminals would have guns!" axiom

scorpion41 posted...

Cant really fault manufacturers for that.

"Organized crime, traffickers, and the CIA are smuggling guns across the border, but clearly Remington is to blame!"

Imagine a country like Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya suing Toyota because terrorists love Toyotas.
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Were_Wyrm posted...

But I was told all of the illegal guns are smuggles into the US by the cartels!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

"Gunwalking", or "letting guns walk", was a tactic used by the Arizona U.S. Attorney's Office and the Arizona Field Office of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which ran a series of sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4] and 2011[2][5] in the Tucson and Phoenix area where the ATF "purposely allowed licensed firearms dealers to sell weapons to illegal straw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders and arrest them".[6] These operations were done under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner, a project intended to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico by interdicting straw purchasers and gun traffickers within the United States.[7] The Jacob Chambers Case began in October 2009 and eventually became known in February 2010 as "Operation Fast and Furious" after agents discovered Chambers and the other suspects under investigation belonged to a car club.[1]

The stated goal of allowing these purchases was to continue to track the firearms as they were transferred to higher-level traffickers and key figures in Mexican cartels, with the expectation that this would lead to their arrests and the dismantling of the cartels.[6][8][9] While federal prosecutor Emory Hurley allegedly told agents they had no choice but to let guns "walk" because agents lacked probable cause to arrest buyers, the tactic of allowing obvious straw purchasers to give guns to criminal organizations was questioned during the operations by ATF field agents and cooperating licensed gun dealers.[10][11][12][13][14] During Operation Fast and Furious, the largest "gunwalking" probe, the ATF monitored the sale of about 2,000 firearms, of which only 710 were recovered as of February 2012.[1]:203 A number of straw purchasers have been arrested and indicted; however, as of October 2011, none of the targeted high-level cartel figures had been arrested.[6]

Guns tracked by the ATF have been found at crime scenes on both sides of the MexicoUnited States border, and the scene where United States Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed in December 2010. The "gunwalking" operations became public in the aftermath of Terry's murder.[2] Dissenting ATF agents came forward to Congress in response.[16] According to Humberto Bentez Trevio, former Mexican Attorney General and chair of the justice committee in the Chamber of Deputies, related firearms have been found at numerous crime scenes in Mexico where at least 150 Mexican civilians were maimed or killed.[17] Revelations of "gunwalking" led to controversy in both countries, and diplomatic relations were damaged.[2]
As a result of a dispute over the release of Justice Department documents related to the scandal, on June 28, 2012, in a vote largely along party lines in a Republican-controlled House, Attorney General Eric Holder became the first sitting member of the Cabinet of the United States to be held in contempt of Congress.[18][19] At Holder's request, President Barack Obama had invoked executive privilege for the first time in his presidency in order to withhold documents that "were not generated in the course of the conduct of Fast and Furious."[20][21] In 2016, a federal court ruled that the records in question were not covered by privilege;[22] A House lawsuit to try to recover the records was settled and the matter dropped in April 2019, after control of the House had shifted to Democrats.[23]

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Are we pretending the ATF isn't itself a cartel?

Bio1590 posted...

Imagine a country like Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya suing Toyota because terrorists love Toyotas.

Pretty bad comparison tbh. It'd be more like if Toyota made a car that was stocked with explosives that is illegal to transport over borders and also made that car super easy for smugglers to acquire.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

It'd be more like if Toyota made a car that was stocked with explosives that is illegal to transport over borders and also made that car super easy for smugglers to acquire.

So... Ford Pinto?

Questionmarktarius posted...

So... Ford Pinto?

Ford Pendejo
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Ok now Mexico will be paying for a wall

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I don't know what they hope to achieve, gun manufacturers are shielded from lawsuits by the federal government that actually sells to drug cartels in central America. They could sue their own manufacturers.

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MrKapowski posted...

Can we sue them for all the fucking drugs coming across the opposite way

Dont forget all the murder and human trafficking

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SevenTenths posted...

Or, or, or blame both

Why blame the makers? They're just making product to sell

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