Current Events > A landlord does no productive economic activity.

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Nothing a landlord does adds any value to the economy.

A landlord is simply a person who is able to extract a fee by positioning themselves as a gatekeeper between the masses and the shelter they require to survive.

But if landlords "don't create value" why the fuck does anyone rent?

Some don't have the money. Cool, value demonstrated. Landlords provide a living space for people without the ability to buy property.

No if I were to own the land between an aqueduct and the town which derives its water from said aqueduct, and then I were to place a gate to block access to the water and keep it closed unless the town pays me a "water rental fee", I have not created value. I am simply using property relations to extract wealth by restricting access to a necessity that is otherwise already available. The same is true for landlords.

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they provide value by contributing to the economy through providing jobs to people who maintain the property (e.g., HVAC technicians, plumbers, etc.), and paying property taxes, which contribute to the government's ability to fund a variety of programs and services.

Jesus Christ give these landlords threads a rest guy.

They're basically the parking meter for the working class,

"hey you need to be part of a productive society? here's a tax burden out of no where in order for you to participate"

But what if it's your beloved genocide committing ccp that is the landlord?

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Fam_Fam posted...

they provide value by contributing to the economy through providing jobs to people who maintain the property (e.g., HVAC technicians, plumbers, etc.), and paying property taxes, which contribute to the government's ability to fund a variety of programs and services.

Drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money they are stealing.

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Fam_Fam posted...

they provide value by contributing to the economy through providing jobs to people who maintain the property (e.g., HVAC technicians, plumbers, etc.)

Ah yes, landlords: the maintainers of property.

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Yeah, it is known that landlords are parasites. They neither create, sell their time to do work, nor transfer goods to where there is more demand. They just extract money from people and companies for simply owning the land.

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They're basically home scalpers, except the buyer doesn't get to own anything.

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This sounds like the beginning of the 2012 Lorax movie.

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Just be a squatter then.
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What is with some people's hate boner against land lords? Suppose all land lords stop renting their property, what now? Do we all just go back to our parents? Live in the car? Become homeless?

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Solo_Wing posted...

What is with some people's hate boner against land lords? Suppose all land lords stop renting their property, what now? Do we all just go back to our parents? Live in the car? Become homeless?

There are 4 empty homes for each homeless person in this country. A good chunk of large scale landlords don't rent out a chunk of their properties because it drives up scarcity and thus prices along with allowing them the ability to write that "loss" off on their taxes.

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Fam_Fam posted...

they provide value by contributing to the economy through providing jobs to people who maintain the property (e.g., HVAC technicians, plumbers, etc.), and paying property taxes, which contribute to the government's ability to fund a variety of programs and services.

I can assure you that's not a big deal.
And I own a property built 40 years ago.


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Solo_Wing posted...

What is with some people's hate boner against land lords? Suppose all land lords stop renting their property, what now? Do we all just go back to our parents? Live in the car? Become homeless?

People not doing very well in life, who own nothing, never will, and are lashing out at the world, or more specifically, landlords. I guess becuase their a easy target.

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Landlords offer places to live. Workers need a place to live.

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Housing should be free as fuck

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I'm alive give me things

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Neither do you, and yet you are allowed to continue vomiting up your verbal diarrhea all over the forums on a daily basis.

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ScazarMeltex posted...

There are 4 empty homes for each homeless person in this country.

Thats actually a conservative estimate, this source puts it at 33 empty properties per homeless person.

https://www.self.inc/info/empty-homes/

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ScazarMeltex posted...

There are 4 empty homes for each homeless person in this country. A good chunk of large scale landlords don't rent out a chunk of their properties because it drives up scarcity and thus prices along with allowing them the ability to write that "loss" off on their taxes.

Huh. I was not aware that is a thing since, that's not a thing here where I live. Disregard what I said then, carry on.

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Those damn landlords, keeping me from living where I want for free

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You still gotta pay tho

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Gamerguymass posted...

Neither do you

Incorrect.

and yet you are allowed to continue vomiting up your verbal diarrhea all over the forums on a daily basis.

The truth is often unpalatable to those afraid to face it.

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The Trent posted...

I'm alive give me things

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lol

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Sooo the money is better in the governments hands rather than citizens?

In government we trust?

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pretty sure anytime a landlord spends any of his money it's productive for the economy.

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The Trent posted...

I'm alive give me things

Yes it is insane that landlords expect us to give them our hard earned money for doing nothing.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

al.

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"If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II
"Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios

Shablagoo posted...

Yes it is insane that landlords expect us to give them our hard earned money for doing nothing.

Wait was that my point i guess it was

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Can anyone dispute the fact that for many people, they don't actually provide a service?

I'm not talking about people who are mobile, unattached to an area, don't want to deal with maintenance, or want special services.

I'm talking about poor and working class people who just want a roof over their heads, but can't buy one. For them, renting isn't a voluntary and rational choice they're making, it's a fee they pay to avoid being on the street.

They very often pay to live in unsafe, unhealthy, or even unliveable housing. Again, not because of their desires, but because of the amount of money they have. This rented housing is often more expensive on a monthly basis than buying a comparable unit. And the renter builds no equity, they are simply setting money on fire each month.

If the person that is renting a place like that because of lack of money lacks money and can't pay rent in full for any reason, the landlord doesn't even have to maintain the unit anymore and can stop providing whatever "services" they provide.

Doesn't seem like a free and equal exchange to me.

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Shablagoo posted...

Nothing a landlord does adds any value to the economy.

A landlord is simply a person who is able to extract a fee by positioning themselves as a gatekeeper between the masses and the shelter they require to survive.

No if I were to own the land between an aqueduct and the town which derives its water from said aqueduct, and then I were to place a gate to block access to the water and keep it closed unless the town pays me a "water rental fee", I have not created value. I am simply using property relations to extract wealth by restricting access to a necessity that is otherwise already available. The same is true for landlords.

My parents have been trying to sell their old home for a few years now. They're only asking $40,000 which is almost giving it away. I've shown it to about a dozen families who are currently renting, some paying up yo $750 a month. No one that I had shown the house to could get a loan and most of them wanted to rent it. A lot of people prefer to rent to avoid any responsibilities.

Between taxes and utilities, It costs my parents $3,000 a year just to keep the house. Should they let someone live there for free and risk them destroying the home?

The Trent posted...

Housing should be free as fuck

^This is the real sentiment behind these threads.
A certain number of people think they should just be able to live where they like for nothing.
It's fucking absurd on the face of it and a level of self entitlement even the boomer generation never reached.
You have always had to pay to live somewhere. Be it rent or a mortgage.
Unless you want to live in government housing which fucking sucks.
Do we need to reform the rental sector and put stronger regulations in place?
Absolutely.
Does that mean some posters with shitty job prospects can sit in their underwear playing their PS5 all day living rent free and collecting $3,000 a month on UBI while the rest of us go to work to pay for it?
Hell no.

House cost X amount of money that landlord can afford and renter cannot.
Landlord charges Y amount of money that renter can afford.

Renter pays Y to have shelter or Renter fails to pay X and remains homeless.

How is that hard to understand

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I can think of a dozen issues with completely free housing immediately and they're all about exploitation. Giving homes out on a first come first serve basis wouldn't be fair at all.

What would drive people to work? If you just get everything for free, why should you work? Why should anyone? What kind of world do you expect we'll have if nobody works?

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Shablagoo posted...

Drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money they are stealing.

Not theft if the other party agreed to pay and it's notarized under a contract. Try again.

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Sbut up and give me free apartment

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Nothing a grocery store does adds any value to the economy.

A grocery store is simply a person who is able to extract a fee by positioning themselves as a gatekeeper between the masses and the food they require to survive.

But if grocery stores "don't create value" why the f*** does anyone buy?

Some don't have the money. Cool, value demonstrated. Grocery stores provide food for people without the ability to grow their own.

No if I were to own the land between an aqueduct and the town which derives its water from said aqueduct, and then I were to place a gate to block access to the water and keep it closed unless the town pays me a "water rental fee", I have not created value. I am simply using property relations to extract wealth by restricting access to a necessity that is otherwise already available. The same is true for grocery stores.

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Fuck yes free food and free apartment its about time!

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Wait free water too?

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eston posted...

Those damn landlords, keeping me from living where I want for free

said no one. weak troll

I don't understand the issue Gamefaqs lefties have with landlords. You know that no matter whether you're a renter or an owner you're going to have to pay someone for the right to live there don't you? If you're a home owner then your bank and the government become the new "landlords" as you pay off your mortgage, and then when you're done with that you still have to pay property tax for the rest of your life. At least when you rent an apartment or house the landlord will pay to have any repairs done and may even do the repairs themselves whereas if you're an owner your bank and government landlords won't pay for anything.

YoungMan posted...

Nothing a grocery store does adds any value to the economy.

The value it adds to you is that you don't have to raise and slaughter or grow your own food and you don't have to buy every product you need from an individual company.

XxAxem_BlackxX posted...

I don't understand the issue Gamefaqs lefties have with landlords. You know that no matter whether you're a renter or an owner you're going to have to pay someone for the right to live there don't you? If you're a home owner then your bank and the government become the new "landlords" as you pay off your mortgage, and then when you're done with that you still have to pay property tax for the rest of your life. At least when you rent an apartment or house the landlord will pay to have any repairs done and may even do the repairs themselves whereas if you're an owner your bank and government landlords won't pay for anything.

A lot of these guys also don't seem to realize that people that own properties have to pay City, County, and School taxes on that property.

My taxes are around $1,500 a year. But my same house up on the hill in the rich section would be close to $4,000. People with a low income couldn't even afford to live there purely based on the taxes alone.

It comical that people think that landlords just sit back and collect money. There is a guy renting a house out accross the street from me for $600(including all utilities except internet) and he is there once a week taking care of what ever issues the people have and cuts the grass.

Derwood posted...

said no one. weak troll

If you don't think that's what's behind these threads then you haven't been paying attention.
Every country in the world has private landlords from China to Switzerland.
They serve a function within all societies and always have.
The hate on them here is fucking absurd.

landlord pay to build apartment building

many people cannot afford to build apartment building

people rent from landlord so they have place to live

landlord has provided service to people

ez value

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