Current Events > Lying when it comes to job applications is perfectly acceptable

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Obviously don't lie about things that can be easily disproven and don't misrepresent your skillset because you will quickly be found out and embarrassed.

But if you need to fudge dates to obscure an employment gap, or if you have practical experience in something that the potential employer will only recognize in the form of job experience, it's perfectly fine.

Employers gatekeep perfectly fine candidates for arbitrary and stupid reasons (or so they can justify paying experienced workers entry-level wages) and they lie and obscure everything from pay, hours, benefits, work environment and even your actual job responsibilities and expectations.

So I say fuck it. Do what you gotta do to survive this job market.

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Topic title: Lying is fine
First sentence of topic: obviously dont lie about important things

Buzzfeed would be proud.


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whitelytning posted...

Topic title: Lying is fine
First sentence of topic: obviously dont lie about important things

Buzzfeed would be proud.

That's not what the first sentence says. Did you fail reading in grade school?

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

That's not what the first sentence says. Did you fail reading in grade school?

Lol what the fuck yes it is. Not verbatim but that is essentially what you said.

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AceAttorneyist posted...

Lol what the fuck yes it is. Not verbatim but that is essentially what you said.

Don't lie about things that can be easily disproven =/= don't lie about important things

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Lying... is perfectly acceptable

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Lying is, easy
Youh people need to learn how to lie better

Are you guys really this illiterate? Yikes.
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nothanks1 posted...

Lying is, easy
Youh people need to learn how to lie better

Word.

If a job has a hard requirement of a year's worth of experience in a role, yet you only have 6 months and know you can still do the job, you can say you worked that job for a year.

If they ask for work references, get a family member or friend to act as your reference.

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dolomedes posted...

how about we collectively decide to quit playing games like this as a society, and, like, progress as humans?

I wish we could, but in the mean time, we gotta pay bills somehow.

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nothanks1 posted...

Lying is, easy
Youh people need to learn how to lie better

When this user is your echo chamber, you just might be shitposting.

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More or less it is a dog eat dog world and those who bark the loudest win.

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Conception616 posted...

When this user is your echo chamber, you just might be shitposting.

Cool. You got anything to say about what was actually posted though?

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Obviously.

Jobs shut down good candidates because of absurd pre-qualifications. They just need to have a test to show you can actually do said job.

Conception616 posted...

When this user is your echo chamber, you just might be shitposting.

Lying is easy.
The fact that people are desperate to fit into society's incredibly randomised social rules means people are terrified of lying
Lying is good. It's what makes the world turn
Take advantage of it

Get caught out? Feign ignorance and confusion. Always accept the fact that others just have an ego and it's their to help you manipulate them

I agree. If they say 2 years experience for something you did for 6 months, fuck it. But don't lie about having experience for something you've never done before at all though.

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Makeveli_lives posted...

I agree. If they say 2 years experience for something you did for 6 months, fuck it. But don't lie about having experience for something you've never done before at all though.

Exactly.

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My boss retired and they posted her job with the qualifications requiring masters level accounting or previous accounting and managerial experience. Had several good outsiders apply from different industries but would not have known any questions on the assessment test since they were specific to the job. The employer wanted to recruit a previous employee who backed out at the last minute and then gave the job to my coworker who had none of the qualifications and has only been working entry level for one year. Simply because this person pitched a fit about wanting the job.
same person also is anti-vax and violated HIPAA by discovering who was out for Covid that didnt want it disclosed.

Moral of the story is if you are a good and hard worker you will be overlooked.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Word.

If a job has a hard requirement of a year's worth of experience in a role, yet you only have 6 months and know you can still do the job, you can say you worked that job for a year.

If they ask for work references, get a family member or friend to act as your reference.

Cringe

shockthemonkey posted...

Lying to employers should be everyones standard. Theyre not going to be honest with you, you dont have to be honest with them and youre doing yourself a disservice by being honest.

Lol lying about time in a job is the easiest thing for them to check. Most places that call references will also call past jobs and get the dates you worked there. Lying about it will automatically put you in the do not hire list.

Agreed, zero faith in HR departments

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My issue is References. It always says I can't use co-workers or family members, and those are the only people in my life that can tell a boss how awesome of a worker I am.

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Eh my philosophy is that finding a job is like dating. If they have to scrutinize everything about your honest qualifications and experience then it's probably not a good company to work at to begin with

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Bad_Mojo posted...

My issue is References. It always says I can't use co-workers or family members, and those are the only people in my life that can tell a boss how awesome of a worker I am.

What businesses have you applied for that dont allow coworker references? Family members should be an obvious no, but people who have worked with you for months or years are going to know your skill set and work ethic.

Employers arent even allowed to provide feedback in many states, outside of are they eligible to be rehired? Its a simple yes or no question with them.

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Conception616 posted...

What businesses have you applied for that dont allow coworker references? Family members should be an obvious no, but people who have worked with you for months or years are going to know your skill set and work ethic.

It very well could be me just misremembering. It's been about 5 years since I've filled out an app. Maybe that was it, just the family members, and that's all I had when I WAS looking for a job since the job I had before this one as like 5 years in between and all the people I did work with I had no way to get into contact with them. This was the Montana job that I just ended up quitting out of the blue because I was on the verge of [ToS] and I had to get back to Portland and people that cared about my mental health

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

will only recognize in the form of job experience, it's perfectly fine.

I was with ya until this...

Putting a fake job on your resume is not ok... it voids the whole thing

Bad_Mojo posted...

It very well could be me just misremembering.

Its entirely possible you applied to private companies that have their own criteria for references. In the past, I have actually NOT included my former supervisors as references, as most people dont leave their jobs, they leave their bosses.

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The only time my references were ever called was for a volunteer thing that I thought would be good to show I management experience. Served my two years and quit after realizing that was totally pointless.

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Makeveli_lives posted...

I agree. If they say 2 years experience for something you did for 6 months, fuck it. But don't lie about having experience for something you've never done before at all though.

We, unfortunately, are stuck with this very employee who did just that.

No forklift experience whatsoever, but when interviewed, said they had experience.

Dude's terrified to drive a forklift, and it shows in how he moves the forks (LOTS of jerking).

Everybody fudges the truth on resumes, it's pre-assumed by employers as well.

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zado19 posted...

I was with ya until this...

Putting a fake job on your resume is not ok... it voids the whole thing

What I'm referring to is....let's say you have graphic design experience, but you've only ever done projects for yourself, friends and family.

Frame it as work experience, which it technically is. It's just not formal experience.

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DevilZhouYu posted...

We, unfortunately, are stuck with this very employee who did just that.

No forklift experience whatsoever, but when interviewed, said they had experience.

Dude's terrified to drive a forklift, and it shows in how he moves the forks (LOTS of jerking).

That's on the employer for not just running him through a quick trial like many other contruction company's do.

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Imagine thinking that employers are locked into ONLY calling your given references

Conception616 posted...

Its entirely possible you applied to private companies that have their own criteria for references. In the past, I have actually NOT included my former supervisors as references, as most people dont leave their jobs, they leave their bosses.

Oh, this would have been at places like Target or Costco. Nothing like a tech company or something. I have never once got a job based on a job interview or application, but by people who work there telling them how great of a worker I am.

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Prismsblade posted...

That's on the employer for not just running him through a quick trial like many other contruction company's do.

I ride a forklift for a living. We won't do this for liability reasons. God forbid they hit something or someone.

DevilZhouYu posted...

We, unfortunately, are stuck with this very employee who did just that.

No forklift experience whatsoever, but when interviewed, said they had experience.

Dude's terrified to drive a forklift, and it shows in how he moves the forks (LOTS of jerking).

Happened to me 3 times.

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daynlokki posted...

Lol lying about time in a job is the easiest thing for them to check. Most places that call references will also call past jobs and get the dates you worked there. Lying about it will automatically put you in the do not hire list.

But I happen to be smart and put my most recent employment place as a company that recently closed down.

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