Current Events > Rutgers bars unvaccinated student from attending virtual classes

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https://nypost.com/2021/09/07/rutgers-bars-unvaccinated-student-from-attending-virtual-classes/

A New Jersey student has said he is barred from taking classes at Rutgers University because he has not been vaccinated even though he is only studying virtually from home. Logan Hollar, 22, told NJ.com that he largely ignored the schools COVID mandate because all my classes were remote from his Sandyston home, some 70 miles from Rutgers campus in New Brunswick. But he was locked out of his Rutgers email and related accounts when he went to pay his tuition at the end of last month and was told that he needed to be vaccinated even though he has no plans to attend in person. Hollar has now been forced to miss classes that started Sept. 1 and has been warned it could be weeks before a decision is reached on his application for an exemption to the vaccine mandate, he said. Ill probably have to transfer to a different university, Hollar told NJ.com, saying he knows of at least one other student in the same position. I find it concerning for the vaccine to be pushed by the university rather than my doctor, he told the outlet. If someone wants to be vaccinated, thats fine with me, but I dont think they should be pushed, he insisted, saying he doesnt find COVID to be scary because he is healthy and not in an at-risk age group. I dont care if I have access to campus. I dont need to be there. They could ban me. I just want to be left alone, he said.

Hollars stepfather, Keith Williams who has been vaccinated told the outlet he is dumbfounded at Rutgers stance. I believe in science, I believe in vaccines, but I am highly confident that COVID-19 and variants do not travel through computer monitors by taking online classes, Williams told NJ.com. He chose to remove himself from an on-campus experience so he would not need to be vaccinated, Williams said. Now to be removed and shut down from his Rutgers email and online classes during the start of his senior year seems a bit crazy. Rutgers spokeswoman Dory Devlin insisted that the university has provided comprehensive information and direction to students to meet vaccine requirements through several communications channels.



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Fair, next

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Sounds like it's just a no tolerance policy that doesn't take outliers like him into account. Tbqh it was up to him to make sure all this was squared away in advance

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Thats dumb as hell.

Just straight up say ''Not vaccinated? Not Enrolled"


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Good. Fuck all covidiots that are willingly extending this pandemic.

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K181 posted...

Good. Fuck all covidiots that are willingly extending this pandemic.

You can catch it through online classes?

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K181 posted...

Good. Fuck all covidiots that are willingly extending this pandemic.

At least it sounds like he was willing to do online only. Sure it'd be better if he got vaccinated but at least he isn't trying to force his way on campus while unvaccinated

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MrKapowski posted...

You can catch it through online classes?

did I say that?

No, but jes not virtual when theyre out and about outside of class, and if theyre the poster boy for a mini-outbreak then that makes their shitty university look bad, too.

Covidiots are making life difficult for everyone else, Im fine with making life difficult for them.

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K181 posted...

did I say that?

No, but jes not virtual when theyre out and about outside of class, and if theyre the poster boy for a mini-outbreak then that makes their shitty university look bad, too.

Covidiots are making life difficult for everyone else, Im fine with making life difficult for them.

Did you read the article?

He's been at home, 70 miles from campus. All his classes are online.

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Everyone with the power to enforce vaccine mandates should, even if it has nothing to do with the service. It's about doing the right thing for society as a whole.

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MrKapowski posted...

Did you read the article?

He's been at home, 70 miles from campus. All his classes are online.

And he can still be a super spreader in his town while being a Rutgers student.

All the fairest of nexts. As I said, Im all for actually meaningful negative consequences for these morons as theyre fucking up society for everyone else. Good on Rutgers for not enabling this douchebaggery.

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I was empathetic to him when I started reading the story but by the end I actually am on the college's side. It seems like this is a blanket policy for everyone, and even though he doesn't plan on going to the campus, that doesn't mean that under normal circumstances that he wouldn't have access to it if he wanted it. From the college's standpoint, if he wanted to meet with a professor or collaborate with other students on campus for a group project, he'd be unvaccinated among everyone else. This is for protection, and he should have done his due diligence with the policy prior to the semester starting.

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K181 posted...

And he can still be a super spreader in his town while being a Rutgers student.

All the fairest of nexts. As I said, Im all for actually meaningful negative consequences for these morons as theyre fucking up society for everyone else. Good on Rutgers for not enabling this douchebaggery.

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Fair next, he's had ample time to get vaccinated and trying to game the system by only doing virtual classes will cause more issues than not.

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Wtf!? Its virtual, why does anything else matter?

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wackyteen posted...

Thats dumb as hell.

Just straight up say ''Not vaccinated? Not Enrolled"

That's pretty much what they said.

Everyone enrolled at Rutgers University needs to be vaccinated.

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gunplagirl posted...

Fair next, he's had ample time to get vaccinated and trying to game the system by only doing virtual classes will cause more issues than not.

He's only been doing virtual classes.

He isn't trying to game the system, he's literally trying to keep doing what he's been doing.

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bigblu89 posted...

That's pretty much what they said.

Everyone enrolled at Rutgers University needs to be vaccinated.

Then why did they let him enroll?

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The problem here is that this kid's major is not online only. He is not a remote student. Eventually he will have to register for some in-person classes.

This article explains it better. The New York Post article does not mention this. The New York Post sometimes does not mention all of the facts and that is typical for them.

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/09/rutgers-student-says-hes-being-stopped-from-taking-virtual-classes-because-hes-not-vaccinated.html

Last spring, Rutgers was the first university in the country to mandate vaccines for students at all of its campuses, but it didnt require them for students in fully remote online degree programs or online-only continuing education programs.

Even though Hollar has all virtual classes, hes not part of the online programs that dont have a vaccine requirement.

When they put out the guidance in March, I was reading through all the verbiage, which was if you plan to return to campus, you need to be vaccinated, Hollar said. I figured I wouldnt be part of that because all my classes were remote.

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wackyteen posted...

Then why did they let him enroll?

More than likely he enrolled last spring and was given until the start of the term to be vaccinated.

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wackyteen posted...

He's only been doing virtual classes.

He isn't trying to game the system, he's literally trying to keep doing what he's been doing.

So he should attend virtually at a college that doesn't require all students be vaccinated

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MrKapowski posted...

Sorry Im not coddling douchebags.

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K181 posted...

And he can still be a super spreader in his town while being a Rutgers student.

All the fairest of nexts. As I said, Im all for actually meaningful negative consequences for these morons as theyre fucking up society for everyone else. Good on Rutgers for not enabling this douchebaggery.

its no ines business what he does at home as long as he doesnt go on campus he should be ok a judge needs to intervene imo

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It's not about the class being at risk of infection. It's about not extending their services to someone who refuses to ensure the safety of others.

Lmao at people not understanding that just because he's taking online classes doesn't mean he's inside his house 100% of the day. Newsflash: you can still get and spread COVID-19 from a restaurant, bar, or grocery store.

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sabrestorm posted...

its no ines business what he does at home as long as he doesnt go on campus he should be ok a judge needs to intervene imo

Please, universities, companies, and other types of institutions cut ties with people for their personal fuckups all the time. This is no different, plus as others mentioned this prevents him from going to campus for other school-related matters which he wouldve been eligible for even as an online student.

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wackyteen posted...

He's only been doing virtual classes.

He isn't trying to game the system, he's literally trying to keep doing what he's been doing.

As someone else just said, other articles explain that he isn't in an online only major. Because of that and the possibility of him attending classes in person in the future or going to campus to speak with a professor, he's a risk. Simple as that. Even if he's not in a high risk group, he could get sick and he could get others sick.

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Lebronwon posted...

he largely ignored the schools COVID mandate

fair next, it sounds like he just didnt think to ask

the school hasnt banned him from taking classes, it literally says in the article that he is awaiting a vaccine-exempt status. hell probably get one and should have thought to do this sooner than now, rather than literally just ignoring it as he said he did

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K181 posted...

Sorry Im not coddling douchebags.

Schadenfreude it is

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eston posted...

Sounds like it's just a no tolerance policy that doesn't take outliers like him into account.

So, a no-tolerance policy.

It's so dumb that we are still having a debate about vaccines.

• Vaccines are the only way we have ever eradicated a virus
• The covid vaccines were not rushed. They went through full clinical trials. They only happened faster than usual because lots of money was dumped in and public interest was extremely high.
• We have hundreds of millions of vaccine doses administered and plenty of data that shows they're safe and effective.
• Schools already require multiple vaccinations, and they have required them for decades.

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wow, that's authoritarian of them

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CableZL posted...

It's so dumb that we are still having a debate about vaccines.
* Vaccines are the only way we have ever eradicated a virus
* The covid vaccines were not rushed. They went through full clinical trials. They only happened faster than usual because lots of money was dumped in and public interest was extremely high.
* We have hundreds of millions of vaccine doses administered and plenty of data that shows they're safe and effective.
* Schools already require multiple vaccinations, and they have required them for decades.

This

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wackyteen posted...

Then why did they let him enroll?

They had to be vaccinated by a certain date, and file with the school.

He chose not to.

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hummus93 posted...

wow, that's authoritarian of them

but this:

SwordMaster13X posted...

The problem here is that this kid's major is not online only.