Current Events > I do like Tales of Berseria so far but I'm just gonna straight up say it.

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saspa
09/10/21 11:47:49 PM
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Japanese anime tropes are freaking weird. I wanted to ignore all the telltale incesty signs that they were doing with the whole brother-sister dynamic of all the characters especially Velvet and Laphicet so as not to prematurely accuse them of being gross but they just keep pushing it and pushing it.

Then you have the twist that Laphicet is apparently the reincarnation of Velvet's dead nephew so... ? It's just too much. And they have a scene where he intimately brushes her hair after they both went to hot springs bath and it just does not have the desired effect of having me... I dunno, care? I don't even know what these particular developers and anime writers' intentions are with scenes like this, like what am I supposed to think?

In the beginning when it was about Velvet replacing her dead brother with this new Laphicet and him resenting that and wanting to be his own person, l liked that, it was some good development. But then they just get weird.

It would be one thing if it's just them but you have the Teresa and Oscar dynamic and then Eizen and his little sister so... it's just weird, like these writers have never even heard the concept of an actual family.
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XxMahnaMahnaxX
09/11/21 12:16:27 AM
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saspa
09/12/21 12:51:39 PM
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I don't know if I should accept this new twist of Innominat being her brother at face value, I'm going to wake up the Empyreans now and see what happens next. I wonder if this is when we'll meet the series elemental staples like Undine, Sylph, Ifrit etc
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WingsOfGood
09/12/21 12:56:04 PM
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American porn does that too. This is when you question, is this actually a porn game? Alot of anime is indeed basically porn in disguise without hardcore scenes for Otakus.
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saspa
09/12/21 1:16:12 PM
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Besides being difficult to ignore this little hiccup, Berseria's been shaping up to be one of the best Tales games easily. I was very pleasantly surprised to discover it was one of the good ones
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saspa
09/13/21 11:14:05 PM
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During the old days of anime it used to be childhood best friend which is preferable
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sabrestorm
09/13/21 11:15:16 PM
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I enjoyed the game and didnt see all the stuff tc claims i didnt see any incest or anything resembling it

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Garioshi
09/13/21 11:17:09 PM
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The game is aware of this, and Oscar and Teresa are a reflection of the dynamic where they really, REALLY want to bone.

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saspa
09/15/21 11:45:15 PM
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I thought Oscar and Teresa were supposed to be the whole creepy evil twin thing that they do in anime but Teresa reveals she's actually his step sister from a previous relationship their dad had
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saspa
09/18/21 3:19:11 AM
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It wouldn't bother me if it weren't for the fact that Berseria is pretty much fantastic in every other way. I was not expecting to enjoy it as much as I am right now. Every skit is near perfect and always makes me want to know more. Plus they're voiced so that's even more great.
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indica
09/18/21 4:00:07 AM
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saspa posted...
During the old days of anime it used to be childhood best friend which is preferable
Nah, it's always been like that. Sibling love is like the purest most beautiful love in Japan

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MedeaLysistrata
09/18/21 4:10:18 AM
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People who hate Morgana need to watch one fucking skit with Bienfu in it. But he is still aite.

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Kaiganeer
09/18/21 4:34:18 AM
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magilou is best girl
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Shotgunnova
09/18/21 6:30:51 AM
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Bienfu is a SAINT!!!!

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saspa
09/20/21 12:13:43 AM
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This is one of those Tales games where the characters are like, the best ever. Every scene, skit and bit of dialogue develops the characters further, adds humor and levity to break the tension, and is just presented so fantastically.

Eizen and Rokuro acting like surrogate older brothers to Laphicet are some of the best skits, especially the beetle bits lol. Just amazing all around.
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FL81
09/20/21 1:12:10 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
American porn does that too.
Going off on a bit of a tangent here, but I would love to see a porno follow the same plot structure as a JRPG, complete with all the tropes >_>

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FelineCyborg
09/20/21 1:24:33 AM
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sabrestorm posted...
I enjoyed the game and didnt see all the stuff tc claims i didnt see any incest or anything resembling it


i noticed in certain fandoms they sexualize everything and they think its so obvious and intentional because they only see things through those lenses.

people do this shit with pokemon trainers too

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Number090684
09/20/21 1:31:20 AM
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Velvet does have a brother complex of sorts. I get that Laphicet was the only remaining immediate family she had left, so she clung to him, but she became a bit too obsessed. The game just doesn't really touch upon the depth of her feelings and essentially leave it up to the player to pick up on. They are a bit more blunt when it comes to Oscar and Teresa though. Anyway, feelings of love that go past platonic and familial aren't exclusive to Berseria though, in Zestiria you go on to find out that Mikleo, in his previous human life before dying and being reincarnated as a seraph, was the product of a incestuous relationship between the previous Shepherd, Michael, and his sister Muse.
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squall567
09/20/21 1:59:24 AM
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FL81 posted...
Going off on a bit of a tangent here, but I would love to see a porno follow the same plot structure as a JRPG, complete with all the tropes >_>
Seeing pornstars battle gods might make for an interesting scene.

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FL81
09/20/21 2:03:32 AM
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squall567 posted...
Seeing pornstars battle gods might make for an interesting scene.
when you're about to nut but she casts Meteor

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MedeaLysistrata
09/20/21 2:04:25 AM
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Automatic Stop is a shitty song based on the implications for committed gamers

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saspa
09/21/21 11:53:40 PM
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Number090684 posted...
Velvet does have a brother complex of sorts. I get that Laphicet was the only remaining immediate family she had left, so she clung to him, but she became a bit too obsessed. The game just doesn't really touch upon the depth of her feelings and essentially leave it up to the player to pick up on. They are a bit more blunt when it comes to Oscar and Teresa though. Anyway, feelings of love that go past platonic and familial aren't exclusive to Berseria though, in Zestiria you go on to find out that Mikleo, in his previous human life before dying and being reincarnated as a seraph, was the product of a incestuous relationship between the previous Shepherd, Michael, and his sister Muse.

It definitely starts off like a replacement for her brother, not just in the name but in that really good fishing scene development where she compares him to Laphi and he gets upset at constantly being treated like her dead brother. Wherein she gives him the new nickname "Phi" to show he's different.

Stuff like that is pretty good character development.
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Blue_Inigo
09/22/21 5:12:46 PM
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OK but look at how badass Velvet is tho

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saspa
09/24/21 6:49:54 AM
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Honestly while I still sometimes get annoyed by the outfit I've mostly gotten over it. That being said I was hoping there would be alternated outfits that would be better but I haven't gotten any outfits yet, only her villager outfit and her prisoner outfit. I'd like one that's cooler than her current design. Just a small thing.
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saspa
09/25/21 10:54:44 PM
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On the other hand Rokuro's extreme rivalry with his older brother shigure is the kind of anime archetype that I'm familiar with and enjoy
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saspa
09/27/21 4:26:26 AM
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sabrestorm posted...
I enjoyed the game and didnt see all the stuff tc claims i didnt see any incest or anything resembling it

It's not like they're outright saying "you 2 should start dating" or anything like that
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spikethedevil
09/27/21 4:53:25 AM
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saspa posted...
I thought Oscar and Teresa were supposed to be the whole creepy evil twin thing that they do in anime but Teresa reveals she's actually his step sister from a previous relationship their dad had

Wouldnt that be half sister then?

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saspa
09/28/21 9:41:48 AM
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Whoops yeah you're right
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Rharyx211
09/28/21 9:43:05 AM
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saspa posted...
On the other hand Rokuro's extreme rivalry with his older brother shigure is the kind of anime archetype that I'm familiar with and enjoy
People hate Rokuro, but I think his story is super fun if only because of how cliche it is.

(also ben diskin is a great voice actor)

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saspa
09/28/21 9:58:49 AM
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Rharyx211 posted...
People hate Rokuro

wtf when was this, where?
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Ving_Rhames
09/28/21 10:01:28 AM
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Berserias cast annoys tf out of me with their constant Heh, we were just passing through heh/I didnt help you for your sake, heh, I have ulterior motives and Im announcing this to you constantly shit. JRPGs arent known for their subtleties, but Berseria constantly beat you down over the head with Look how AMORAL they are! shit,

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DirkDiggles
09/28/21 10:03:56 AM
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saspa posted...
Berseria's been shaping up to be one of the best Tales games easily. I was very pleasantly surprised to discover it was one of the good ones

Just wait till you play Arise.

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