Current Events > Woman beats up Preacher carrying sign saying women belong in the kitchen

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_MorningStar posted...

Lotta incel energy ITT

Yeah, no kidding.
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Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...

Yeah, no kidding.

ZannoL posted...

Its embarrassing how a lot of dumb people in this topic throw that term around so freely.

As if being against violence means you are now an incel.

Is that pastor an absolute moron? Yes. Does that mean physical violence was deserved? No. Only under self defense should violence be permitted. All she did was give him a bigger platform and make things harder for herself.

AssultTank posted...

system. I don't want fucking fascism to win. In 2017, it was just neo-nazis, now it's anyone preaching any extreme right values.

So nothings changed then?

Jesus Christ, do you hear yourself? Oh no, theyre punching Nazis, an ideology that was known bad 80 years ago. How dare they!

If someone shifts their opinion because a Nazi got punched, then that person wasnt a fence-sitter. They had their mind made up and switched when it was convenient for them.

This is the kind of shit Im talking about though. Im not saying you shouldnt have opinions, but you also shouldnt blatantly lie about the people getting punched and conveniently forgetting context. Its just a bad look from someone thats supposed to be somewhat professional.

But again, this is the same site that protected an anti-vax mod for reasons so I guess I shouldnt expect professionalism from this staff.
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Yeah, punching bigots is wrong, we should treat them nicely and give them a platform to speak, that will *surely* make them go away!

...Oh wait.
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Violence on real life people is wrong. No matter the reason.
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AssultTank posted...

And you completely missed the point. It's about a shift in attitudes over time. Not every far right person is a Neo-Nazi, there is a spectrum of far right ideals, and people can hold some of them without holding all of them. But as we make it more and more acceptable to assault people for speech, we damage our own morality as a society. We are stating to come to have the same ideals towards when violence is acceptable as a fascist government would. Eventually it will come to the point where any dissent is punishable, it's just a matter of time and complacency.

And your reality that people will get punched just for having a right viewpoint will not happen on a large scale. And if it did, it wouldnt just be one side doing it, so its moot to call it out and not look in the fucking mirror.

Look, I understand you sympathize with people that lean right because you do (NOTE: I am NOT saying youre far right or anything of that nature. I dont care what your viewpoint is unless its actively hurting people, youre allowed an opinion) but you also need to live in reality.

If someone is going to go to the side of the alt-right because of a punch of someone being a dip shit, that person was already trying to lean alt-right to begin with. If someone gets punched because they said basically women dont deserve rights, you shouldnt immediately feel sympathetic to the bigot.

And dont try and comeback with its just words! Words turn into attitudes which turns into why were still in a somewhat racist society in America with systemic racism. These people need to be called out and shamed for the bigots they are.

If we cant call out bigots for being bigots, how are we ever going to have change? Why is this the bull that you want to die on? Why are you equating women belong in the kitchen with basic right wing talking points.

Again, this is the bullshit Im talking about wrt this site. Youre supposed to be a professional and a liaison of the site for the admin staff and youre getting your fucking panties in a bunch because a misogynist got what was coming to him. But dear god if I actually say what I want to say, because Ill be the one in trouble and you will just skip along acting like youre completely in the right. It happened with Mental Daxter and its bullshit.
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AssultTank posted...

And you completely missed the point. It's about a shift in attitudes over time. Not every far right person is a Neo-Nazi, there is a spectrum of far right ideals, and people can hold some of them without holding all of them. But as we make it more and more acceptable to assault people for speech, we damage our own morality as a society. We are stating to come to have the same ideals towards when violence is acceptable as a fascist government would. Eventually it will come to the point where any dissent is punishable, it's just a matter of time and complacency.

They aren't the same and they never have been, nor will they be. Punching someone whose entire ideology is predicated on the idea that certain groups are fucking subhuman and need to be killed isn't the same as holding the view that certain groups are subhuman and need to be killed. It's intellectually dishonest to say that they are and fuck you for doing so.

That would be like saying that someone shooting Hitler during the 20s while he was provoking the German right to violence against the Jewish population of the Weimar Republic makes them just as bad as a Nazi, it's fucking absurd and you should be ashamed for making that claim. If you aren't claiming that a whole group should be killed there won't be any violence against you.

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If you get your ass kicked by a girl you're definetely not allowed to say men are more capable than women anymore lmao

AssultTank posted...

I'm perfectly fine with not giving them a platform. Don't bring yourself down to their level and physically assault them.

Counter-protest and down them out, I helped do that when the KKK tried to hold a rally in my hometown. We didn't punch them though.

Nah, fuck that, playing nice is what emboldened these shitters in the first place, made them think their views held legitimacy for "debate" and that they were untouchable no matter what they said or did.

Time they finally faced some *actual* consequences.
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Hope she likes spending a day in jail and paying a bunch in fines. Maybe shell learn violence isnt the answer and makes her just as bad as the dude.

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She didn't beat his ass. She pushed him down trapping another women under him. That ain't good nor powerful .

Also if he did beat his ass, I would support her more.

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Again; if a misogynist getting punched leads you to the side of the misogynist, maybe you have more in common with them then you think.

Stop trying to protect bigots because its fucking trolling and since youre a mod, no one is going to say their actual feelings. Because protecting someone defending bigots getting punched is more important than calling people for protecting bigots. Thats what youre saying and thats what this site says. Its bullshit. Not everyone needs to be babied.

This guy is pushing misogynistic bullshit. Stop defending him.
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AssultTank posted...

Again because you missed it; THEY WANT YOU TO PUNCH THEM.

And again; they dont live in our reality. No matter what we do, they will paint it as a win.

Look at how violent they are! We must be right!

Look at them just pass us by. They dont care. We are right!

These people dont live in the real world. They make it up as they fucking go.

Stop defending bigots though. This guy literally had a sign that said women belong in the kitchen. This shouldnt be the hill you want to die on.
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

AssultTank posted...

So instead you prefer to let them claim victimhood, press charges against their attackers, sue people involved, and come out ahead with a much larger platform to speak on.
Great plan.

THEY WANT YOU TO PUNCH THEM.
They want to present you as someone so unreasonable that you have to resort to violence. They WANT to be the victim because it allows them to normalize their ideas in anyone who disagrees with you on anything. It helps them to make people fear YOU instead of them. They want you in jail so you can't stop them in the future. You get the criminal record and have a harder life for it, and they come out with more money and influence.

There isn't a single moral system that will say this is a good thing.

So we just bend over and let them win.

Great plan, and thanks for being part of the problem.
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You can deplatform, you can counterprotest, you can do community outreach and education.

Which accomplishes absolutely nothing, you even fucking admit it in the next sentence.

Sure the bigot won't stop, but

Christ fucking almighty, you are the *exact* reason it's a tragedy we can't ignore/block mods, you're just that goddamn obnoxious.

I'm going to tag you appropriately and try my best to pretend your posts don't exist anymore.
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We're gonna need a bigger kitchen.

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I seriously disagree with the message of the signholders, but that was still assault on the woman's behalf.

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AssultTank posted...

There isn't a single moral system that will say this is a good thing.

There are a lot of moral systems that will say that opposing neo Nazis and klansmen is good, actually

AssultTank posted...

So you claim I'm defending bigots, I'm not. My concern is for the people that this behavior is going to ruin.

If a fence sitter goes to the side of a misogynist because they get hit, they were likely going to align with their values in the first place. If you see someone get hit, learn the context, and go I agree with the person who got hit, youre part of the fucking problem. And note, the you in my sentence isnt to you specifically, just a general you.

AssultTank posted...

Likely expelled from college and jail time... That's going to make it hard for them to find a job, especially when employers ask and she has to say she lost her temper and hit a guy, or they just search her up. Doesn't matter why, the employer now sees that she's a violent offender. She just ruined her life, all for a cathartic release that in the long run won't do one fucking bit of good.

Thats literally only if she gets charged with assault and depending on how severe or how they plead/deal, it could not even show up as anything on any check.

So again, stop looking for ways to be like but muh bigots unless you like looking really not good. But I mean, Mental Daxter kept doubling down about how he doesnt care about COVID and about how he should be able to spread misinformation. I guess its just a mod thing to troll with dumb opinions because yall know we cant say shit because reasons.
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