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Trumble
09/25/21 2:44:48 PM
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...is Mark 10:25.

While it may not necesserially be themself, without fail there will at least be someone they support (and likely, see as a "good Christian") who, according to the words of Jesus himself in that verse, is headed straight for Hell.

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Damn_Underscore
09/25/21 2:49:55 PM
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You should read the rest of that verse.

The disciples were even more amazed, and said to each other, Who then can be saved?

Jesus looked at them and said, With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God.

Then Peter spoke up, We have left everything to follow you!

Truly I tell you, Jesus replied, no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age: homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fieldsalong with persecutionsand in the age to come eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and the last first.

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OrangeWizard
09/25/21 2:52:00 PM
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We'd welcome such discussions over on the religion board:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/263-religion
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deoxxys
09/25/21 2:53:45 PM
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" It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.

huh>?

Hows that an argument?
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Southernfatman
09/25/21 2:56:45 PM
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They'll just go "nuh uh!" and claim "it actually means ____" like every other verse that conflicts with their own personal world view.

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Damn_Underscore
09/25/21 3:03:56 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
They'll just go "nuh uh!" and claim "it actually means ____" like every other verse that conflicts with their own personal world view.

Meanwhile it's okay for you to do the exact same thing?

The context of the verse clearly is more complex than "rich people bad". Yet TC (and many others with a disingenuous ulterior motive) act as if means exactly that, nothing more and nothing less.

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ThePrinceFish
09/25/21 3:06:57 PM
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flopic

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DeadBankerDream
09/25/21 3:08:49 PM
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If you're arguing the Bible with Christians with the intent of making them doubt it, you've already lost.


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Trumble
09/25/21 3:15:22 PM
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OrangeWizard posted...
We'd welcome such discussions over on the religion board:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/263-religion
As a general rule, I avoid boards starting with "26". Just in case it's contagious.

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Middle hope
09/25/21 3:17:41 PM
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Imagine if this topic was dunking on Islam. You think it would still be up?

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DeadBankerDream
09/25/21 3:18:03 PM
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Middle hope posted...
Imagine if this topic was dunking on Islam. You think it would still be up?
Yes.

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Middle hope
09/25/21 3:19:44 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Yes.
Go test the theory. Find a real juicy verse that makes records scratch when you hear it

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DeadBankerDream
09/25/21 3:20:52 PM
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But I don't want to have to go read the Koran to find useable suras to use in your anti-islam videogame board posting fantasy.

Do your own homework.

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Damn_Underscore
09/25/21 3:23:08 PM
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This topic isn't taking a random verse where God does something bad or similar and calling Christianity evil.

That is the extent of how Islam is treated on the internet for the most part.

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Trumble
09/25/21 3:32:47 PM
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Middle hope posted...
Imagine if this topic was dunking on Islam. You think it would still be up?
Yes, because it's pointing out a contradiction in their beliefs, not attacking the people themselves. On the other hand, if this topic had said the kinds of things about Christians that you wish you could say about Islam, I'm sure this account would be experiencing its first karma loss very soon.

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deoxxys
09/25/21 3:34:42 PM
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Trumble posted...
Yes, because it's pointing out a contradiction in their beliefs, not attacking the people themselves. On the other hand, if this topic had said the kinds of things about Christians that you wish you could say about Islam, I'm sure this account would be experiencing its first karma loss very soon.
Again what the contradiction? All you did was post a verse about it being hard for rich people to get into heaven?

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Trumble
09/25/21 3:37:19 PM
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deoxxys posted...
Again what the contradiction? All you did was post a verse about it being hard for rich people to get into heaven?

Literally explained it in the OP.

Trumble posted...
While it may not necesserially be themself, without fail there will at least be someone they support (and likely, see as a "good Christian") who, according to the words of Jesus himself in that verse, is headed straight for Hell.


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Damn_Underscore
09/25/21 3:40:58 PM
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You are not the first person to use this exact argument and the argument is never used in good faith.

There's no way you read that verse and all you got from it was "rich people are going to hell." That could include almost every single person alive today because in general we are much better off than people living 2000 years ago (/s by the way). But the main concern is that your argument is just disingenuous.

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Trumble
09/25/21 4:06:13 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
There's no way you read that verse and all you got from it was "rich people are going to hell."
How the hell is "it's easier for something that's physically impossible to happen, than for a rich man to get into Heaven" able to be interpreted any other way than "rich people are going to Hell"?

At a stretch you could make an argument that it doesn't include rich women but that's about the only room for interpretation it leaves, unless there's something lost in translation (in which case feel free to clarify that).

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Damn_Underscore
09/25/21 4:09:17 PM
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Like I said, read after that single line.

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masterpug53
09/25/21 4:13:33 PM
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deoxxys posted...
Mark 10:25
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.

Their response:


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09/25/21 4:22:34 PM
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