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EffectAndCause
10/06/21 5:41:39 PM
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The people who are trying to cancel him arent people that would go to his shows or watch his specials anyway.

He is viewed pretty much universally by his peers as the greatest comedian of this generation and possibly of all time so everyone is gonna stand by and defend him.

Also, its just jokes. He intentionally addresses the comedic elephants in the room.

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SoggyBottomBoy
10/06/21 5:42:20 PM
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He says what the most of us feel and he doesnt apologize over fear of being cancelled.

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Middle hope
10/06/21 5:43:21 PM
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Antifar
10/06/21 5:44:03 PM
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I don't know, doesn't that suggest to you that "cancel culture" doesn't actually have the power you think it does? It seems like there are a lot of "uncancellable" people out there; is it really about their unique qualities?

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Maze_
10/06/21 5:46:01 PM
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Cpt_Pineapple posted...
why are they cancelling him?
Anti trans jokes in his latest special

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modena
10/06/21 5:46:21 PM
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I just heard his "covid bit" on a classic rock station. They do a joke of the day when I get off work, hes the first person of color that I've ever heard them use.

Think it was the backlash from the left recently that they chose him today lol.

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SoggyBottomBoy
10/06/21 5:46:31 PM
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Cpt_Pineapple posted...
why are they cancelling him?
They cant cancel him.

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KeeperOfShadows
10/06/21 5:47:29 PM
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I mean, has anybody been canceled over standup?

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Wii_Shaker
10/06/21 5:48:00 PM
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KeeperOfShadows posted...
I mean, has anybody been canceled over standup?
Michael Richards.

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legendary_zell
10/06/21 5:48:55 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
The people who are trying to cancel him arent people that would go to his shows or watch his specials anyway.

He is viewed pretty much universally by his peers as the greatest comedian of this generation and possibly of all time so everyone is gonna stand by and defend him.

Also, its just jokes. He intentionally addresses the comedic elephants in the room.


The post directly after yours disproves your last point. Many people take it as actual support for their actual political/social/cultural views and you know it. Every conservative and transphobe on this board are coming to his defense and it's not a coincidence. Every trans person on this board does not consider what he's saying to be just jokes, they're a reflection of what people really think, like many posters on have confirmed.

Do you really think comedy and politics/culture have no overlap? I guess you believe that George Carlin was just trying to tickle people's funny bone and had no political viewpoint he was communicating through his material.

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SoggyBottomBoy
10/06/21 5:49:40 PM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
wat
You have a whole topic about being a simp

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KeeperOfShadows
10/06/21 5:52:06 PM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
Michael Richards.
Over the actual jokes. Richards said stupid shit out of anger.

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SoggyBottomBoy
10/06/21 5:52:31 PM
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Outer_space posted...
Can't cancel the GOAT


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EffectAndCause
10/06/21 6:38:11 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
The post directly after yours disproves your last point. Many people take it as actual support for their actual political/social/cultural views and you know it. Every conservative and transphobe on this board are coming to his defense and it's not a coincidence. Every trans person on this board does not consider what he's saying to be just jokes, they're a reflection of what people really think, like many posters on have confirmed.

Do you really think comedy and politics/culture have no overlap? I guess you believe that George Carlin was just trying to tickle people's funny bone and had no political viewpoint he was communicating through his material.

His viewpoints were conveyed in a tactless manner because hes a comedian. In a non-comedic setting he would deliver them in a reasonable manner. Comedians arent meant to be reasonable, theyre meant to be funny. People are offended by what he said because they take the manner in which he said them literally instead of taking context and intent into account.

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CyricZ
10/06/21 6:39:07 PM
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Well TC, the first person to agree with you in this topic is in open agreement about ridiculing trans people so I hope this gets you everything you wanted.

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EffectAndCause
10/06/21 6:40:52 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Well TC, the first person to agree with you in this topic is in open agreement about ridiculing trans people so I hope this gets you everything you wanted.

You guys disagree with me and believe that Dave Chappelle will be cancelled over this? Please go on.

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CyricZ
10/06/21 6:41:39 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
You guys disagree with me and believe that Dave Chappelle will be cancelled over this? Please go on.
Didn't say that. I'm just pointing out the company you're keeping.

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EffectAndCause
10/06/21 6:42:34 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Didn't say that. I'm just pointing out the company you're keeping.

IDGAF which kind of people agree, if im right im right.

Im sure many Trump supporters agree that 2 + 2 = 4.

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skermac
10/06/21 6:44:00 PM
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Bthink people that arent trying to cancel him realize its just comedy

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legendary_zell
10/06/21 8:27:21 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
His viewpoints were conveyed in a tactless manner because hes a comedian. In a non-comedic setting he would deliver them in a reasonable manner. Comedians arent meant to be reasonable, theyre meant to be funny. People are offended by what he said because they take the manner in which he said them literally instead of taking context and intent into account.

In a non-comedic setting he announced that he's a TERF and agrees with J.K. Rowling on trans people. He's just saying what he thinks up there and people are defending it because they think anything you say on a stage with a mic in your hand has to be free from criticism or you're a joyless SJW that's killing free speech.

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ShineboxPhil
10/06/21 8:29:25 PM
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ReignFury
10/07/21 11:06:24 AM
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I don't think the goal is to cancel Dave because he can't be cancelled, I think the longterm goal is to intimidate Netflix and other comics into making watered down, inoffensive comedy.

The stupidity in this is that the market and fanbase for edgy standup comedy grows stronger as cancel culture grows, and cancel culture doesn't pay their bills.

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YigaClan
10/07/21 11:06:58 AM
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I love Dave Chappelle so much it's not even funny

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Blue_Inigo
10/07/21 11:08:57 AM
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I prefer comedians who don't promote shitty ideas about LGBT people

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unnamedsoldier
10/07/21 11:12:59 AM
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People will forget about it in a month

South Park also has made anti-trans jokes
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CyricZ
10/07/21 11:14:28 AM
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unnamedsoldier posted...
South Park also has made anti-trans jokes
Yes. We know.

Whenever we have a discussion about trans people in sports, someone always posts that still from s23e7 that they think is hilarious but makes them look like a piece of shit.

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BuckVanHammer
10/07/21 11:14:56 AM
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when there isn't any possible consequences, whats the point. a cancelation of public opinion? I'm sure no fucks given by dave...

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EffectAndCause
10/07/21 11:27:03 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Yes. We know.

Whenever we have a discussion about trans people in sports, someone always posts that still from s23e7 that they think is hilarious but makes them look like a piece of shit.

Is there a rebuttal to South Parks point in that episode? Seems like there really isnt a valid counterargument.

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RchHomieQuanChi
10/07/21 11:28:26 AM
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I wish people invested as much time into cancelling politicians and CEOs as they did celebrities

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CyricZ
10/07/21 12:08:40 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Is there a rebuttal to South Parks point in that episode? Seems like there really isnt a valid counterargument.
What was South Park's point?

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EffectAndCause
10/07/21 12:17:22 PM
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CyricZ posted...
What was South Park's point?

The amusing reality of what it means if were going to allow transgender women to compete in womens sports (which is fine on paper) BUT when the LGBT community wants to be so insanely welcoming and accepting that they have zero minimum requirements or expectations for what makes someone a woman (which results in what South Park was portraying).

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cjsdowg
10/07/21 12:24:32 PM
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Cpt_Pineapple posted...
why are they cancelling him?

Beet juice, just horrible.

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CyricZ
10/07/21 12:26:16 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
when the LGBT community wants to be so insanely welcoming and accepting that they have zero minimum requirements or expectations for what makes someone a woman
And you looked at an episode of South Park.

South Park, a show with Saddam Hussein married to the Devil in hell.
South Park, a show where a young boy gets killed and resurrected on a weekly basis.
South Park, a show where the town attempted to declare war on Canada.

You looked at what South Park showed you and said to yourself: "Yes, that is exactly what happens in real life. South Park has told me there are no requirements for competing in women's sports apart from saying you're a woman and I feel I need to do no further research to confirm if that's actually true or just exaggerated for the purpose of a joke like they do in every episode."

That South Park?

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EffectAndCause
10/07/21 12:28:06 PM
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Ah yes, classic whataboutism.

Good stuff.

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Graycap
10/07/21 12:30:48 PM
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Thing is if you don't cancel Chappelle you look like a hypocrite if you try to cancel anyone else for the same shit.
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CyricZ
10/07/21 12:31:00 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Ah yes, classic whataboutism.

Good stuff.
So yes, is your answer. You watched that episode and said "yes that's what happens in real life".

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
10/07/21 12:32:00 PM
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CirocObama posted...
You can't be cancelled if you don't apologize.
That's true. Once people smell blood in the water, the real pile on begins

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EffectAndCause
10/07/21 12:33:26 PM
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CyricZ posted...
So yes, is your answer. You watched that episode and said "yes that's what happens in real life".

The point is that is allowed to happen because of LGBTs all welcoming stance on what a woman is. Exaggerated for comedic effect because its a comedy show, but the point stands.

Also has anyone ever gotten your pronouns wrong or did you just add that to your signature to feel like youre part of a movement? Because ive seen you and I dont think anyone would ever get confused over which pronouns to use.

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mario2000
10/07/21 12:35:10 PM
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SoggyBottomBoy posted...
He says what the most of us feel

What would that be?

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andel
10/07/21 12:35:25 PM
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huge celebrities in general can't be canceled. cancel culture is vastly overstated by the right anyway.

that said, no group gets to exempt themselves from being poked fun at in comedic routines. every race, class and sexual orientation is fair game so obviously trans people are also fair game. comedy has always been about pushing boundaries and offending prudish people

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CyricZ
10/07/21 12:36:29 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
The point is that is allowed to happen because of LGBTs all welcoming stance on what a woman is.
Is it? I don't think you've proven that. Your only evidence is a South Park episode.

Also why do you think it necessary to talk about pronouns. Keep on topic, please.

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mario2000
10/07/21 12:36:47 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
The point is that is allowed to happen because of LGBTs all welcoming stance on what a woman is.

Educate us on what their stance is, since you're apparently more deeply informed than the rest of us.

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EffectAndCause
10/07/21 12:40:12 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
The amusing reality of what it means if were going to allow transgender women to compete in womens sports (which is fine on paper) BUT when the LGBT community wants to be so insanely welcoming and accepting that they have zero minimum requirements or expectations for what makes someone a woman (which results in what South Park was portraying).

In case you missed it.

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