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people who are frustrated about being virgins, yet consider themselves too good to pay for pussy.

Like bruh, is your pride really worth only getting your dick wet when you shower? Beggars can't always be choosers; either get it how you can or don't get it at all. Obviously it's more "dignified" to have someone give you play because they're genuinely into you, but at some point you should just treat yourself to the experience so you can at least know what it feels like. You're not gonna be any good at it anyway, whereas the paid and far more experienced provider will almost certainly rock your world. In a way, she's saving you from disappointing the person you actually DO want a connection with!

And besides, you can always continue to work on getting it organically afterwards. Nothing's ever stopping you from making efforts to increase your attractiveness.

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Just because you're fine with paying for it doesn't mean others are.

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this is a weird topic.

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Paying for it means there's no mutual attraction and that's a big deal for some people.

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Scotty_Rogers posted...

Just because you're fine with paying for it doesn't mean others are.

I mean, if you're jobless and strapped for cash but refuse to work at Whole Foods (despite it seemingly being the only place willing to hire you) because you have a prestigious degree, then that's your prerogative lol

monkmith posted...

this is a weird topic.

Meh, I guess lol

nfearurspecimn posted...

Paying for it means there's no mutual attraction and that's a big deal for some people.

I get that. I'm just suggesting that perhaps it's time to loosen those standards if it seems you otherwise can't get laid to save your life.


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Lmao

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Paying for sex is awesome, no different from going out to eat when you don't want to cook

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Scintillant posted...

Paying for sex is awesome, no different from going out to eat when you don't want to cook

It should be just as normalized. Some people just aren't gonna have the looks, personality, and/or status to get laid at their leisure, but IMO that doesn't mean they should be fucked (no pun intended).

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For a lot of us, it isn't about the sex entirely. It's about being wanted. Prostitution doesn't fix any of the underlying issues, or make them more worth dating(likely the opposite actually).

It'd be no different than paying someone to pretend to be your friend when you're lonely. It's not real, it fixes nothing, and would likely just make you feel worse after.

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That was quite the segue

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KogaSteelfang posted...

For a lot of us, it isn't about the sex entirely. It's about being wanted. Prostitution doesn't fix any of the underlying issues, or make them more worth dating(likely the opposite actually).

It'd be no different than paying someone to pretend to be your friend when you're lonely. It's not real, it fixes nothing, and would likely just make you feel worse after.

The difficulty of getting someone to like you enough that they want to have sex with you is going to vary considerably from person to person, for a multitude of reasons. But if you've reached the point of becoming sexually frustrated, then it may be time to expand your horizon because having sex is a healthy part of the human experience and it doesn't necessarily have to involve affection. You can treat yourself to the experience of sex while still making efforts to increase your chances of being wanted, eventually getting laid the "natural" way. Why make it an uphill battle for yourself by demanding both simultaneously, if the odds are already stacked against you?

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KogaSteelfang posted...

For a lot of us, it isn't about the sex entirely. It's about being wanted. Prostitution doesn't fix any of the underlying issues, or make them more worth dating(likely the opposite actually).

Prostitution isn't meant to fix those problems. It's meant to get you laid, either because you want sex with no strings attached (but don't have a "friend with benefits") or because you're involuntarily celibate.

It'd be no different than paying someone to pretend to be your friend when you're lonely. It's not real, it fixes nothing, and would likely just make you feel worse after.

I can't think of a situation where having sex would make a virgin feel worse just because it was paid for (unless they didn't really have the money to spare and/or the provider's unpleasant). Sex is physical; it's gonna blow your mind (and your load) and you'll at least be able to say that you've had it. In this context, it's basically a recreational activity.

A woman fucking me only because I'm paying her to always just seemed very unsexy to me personally. I feel the same way about strip clubs.

But hey, you do you

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I mean yeah if the problem was that they can't get laid, paying for sex would solve it. I think the bigger problem is that these people who complain about being virgins are actually looking for a meaningful relationship with another person. With that said, I agree that beggers can't be choosers. You can force another person to be attracted to you, you really can only change yourself to be more attractive. Those are the people I have the least amount of sympathy, the ones who don't put in the effort.

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If I went to a prostitute I would definitely have a panic attack. Like every step of the process would make me totally freak out unable to move. Making the decision, driving to where prostitutes are, finding one, going up to them to talk, talking to them, going somewhere with them, being in a room with them, them trying to touch me. I couldn't do any one of those steps individually, let alone all of them one after another.
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I don't wanna know... Well actually I do

What would you say to someone who is mad that they have to pay and there is no other option?

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this line of thinking never ceases to be dumb as fuck

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nfearurspecimn posted...

Paying for it means there's no mutual attraction and that's a big deal for some people.

True. But tbf, they should elaborate on that if it's the case. Cause they choose rather they're perceived as just wanting sex or wanting an emotional connection. I personally know this isn't you, but a lot of posters here only talk about the sex angle. So, they come off like they put it above emotional connections. Which is probably something they should work on, because just having sex for sex is fleeting. You turn it into another quick fix drug when there's no emotional connection.

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I wouldnt even know where to get a prostitute without fear of getting arrested

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EndOfDiscOne posted...

I wouldnt even know where to get a prostitute without fear of getting arrested

Craigslist? Lol. I don't know either. I'm fine not having sex for long periods of time.

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A lot of the people complaining about the lack of sex aren't primarily concerned with the sex, whether or not they realize it themselves.

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l0gic posted...

I can't think of a situation where having sex would make a virgin feel worse

It would certainly be a blow to the self esteem. To people with this problem, self esteem is a major problem already.

Losing a meaningless label, and replacing it with the fact that you've only managed any intimacy by exploiting someone in exchange for money. Not exactly something to be proud of.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

A woman fucking me only because I'm paying her to always just seemed very unsexy to me personally. I feel the same way about strip clubs.

But hey, you do you

Once the money is provided, you're left with an attractive women who will play with your penis. You'll be fine lol

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

I don't wanna know... Well actually I do

What would you say to someone who is mad that they have to pay and there is no other option?

I would ask why there is no other option, and what efforts they're making to fix the problem.

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DarthAragorn posted...

this line of thinking never ceases to be dumb as fuck

Elab.

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Whys TC picking on Vegy?
He posted a picture of your sister didn't he.

And Craigslist doesn't have a hook up thing anymore.

KogaSteelfang posted...

It would certainly be a blow to the self esteem. To people with this problem, self esteem is a major problem already.

Losing a meaningless label, and replacing it with the fact that you've only managed any intimacy by exploiting someone in exchange for money. Not exactly something to be proud of.

Life is about perspective. If you're already framing the situation as "exploitation", then you've already lost.

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LeadPipeCinche posted...

Whys TC picking on Vegy?
He posted a picture of your sister didn't he.

I'm confused. TC isn't picking on anyone. I should know -- I'm TC.

And Craigslist doesn't have a hook up thing anymore.

Ah, a man of culture I see.


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superman 2000 posted...

I would ask why there is no other option, and what efforts they're making to fix the problem.

Why don't you just introduce them to a lady whom you know it will work out with? Or do you just want to listen to someone fumble around what their issues are

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Guide posted...

A lot of the people complaining about the lack of sex aren't primarily concerned with the sex, whether or not they realize it themselves.

There's nothing wrong with wanting meaningful intimacy, but if you can't get laid with your looks/personality/status yet consider it beneath you to pay for lay, then what are your options? Try to make yourself more desirable, but if it isn't working and you want to at least experience the physicality of sex, then be realistic about your options.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Why don't you just introduce them to a lady who you know it will work out with? Or do you just want to listen to someone fumble around what their issues are

Well, then my question becomes: "Why are you assuming I know someone who would want to have sex with you?"

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Wait how is my **** gonna get wet if I'm forced to wear a condom to avoid catching all the stds and hiv that the prostitute is riddled with

superman 2000 posted...

Well, then my question becomes: "Why are you assuming I know someone who would want to have sex with you?"

Why would you entertain someone who doesn't get any attention from women?

And if you can't play the matchmaker role so easily are you so attractive yourself?

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Noumas posted...

Wait how is my **** gonna get wet if I'm forced to wear a condom to avoid catching all the stds and hiv that the prostitute is riddled with

Well for starters, you should be wearing a condom anyway unless you're trying to have kids or willing to run the risk of an STD. Secondly, not all prostitutes are desperate street walkers like you probably have imagined. Reach out to a classy escort, or a dominatrix depending on how kinky you are. They usually conduct themselves professionally, with websites and everything.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Why would you entertain someone who doesn't get any attention from women?

What do you mean by "entertain"?

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I'd never pay for it but I support a woman's right to choose to charge lol. these laws are BS.

people always feel entitled to other people's "services" in one way or another.
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MedeaLysistrata posted...

And if you can't play the matchmaker role so easily are you so attractive yourself?

You're asking weird questions that come off as passive-aggressive. Who said I'm trying to play matchmaker? What are you really getting at here?

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superman 2000 posted...

people who are frustrated about being virgins, yet consider themselves too good to pay for pussy.

Yeah man making monetary exchanges for sex with someone who's probably being trafficked is epic bacon. Not reading past this part but you should consider s******* ******f
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Gafemage posted...

Yeah man making monetary exchanges for sex with someone who's probably being trafficked

You're ignorant. Not every sex worker/escort is a victim being exploited. Educate yourself.

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I can understand advising someone who is starved for human companionship to lower their standards in what they may be looking for in a partner. I cannot understand people whose advice to such people is to simply pay for sex. Talk about missing the point.

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superman 2000 posted...

What do you mean by "entertain"?

Look it up I guess, probably not first definition. I just get the sense this argument is just someone really wanting sex work to be normalized. Which is fine, but I don't see why you need to dress it up in this dumbass gossip topic... But gossip sure is fun I guess.

Also I'm convinced once it gets to that point people just like hearing incels guess about what their issues are, like I said. You say you have no sympathy for this but you have the energy to make the topic and engage people

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superman 2000 posted...

You're asking weird questions that come off as passive-aggressive. Who said I'm trying to play matchmaker? What are you really getting at here?

I'm getting at the fact that there is no way for the other person to get anything out of what you propose to offer

"Pay to get laid then guess why no one wants to fuck you after"

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ThePrinceFish posted...

I can understand advising someone who is starved for human companionship to lower their standards in what they may be looking for in a partner. I cannot understand people whose advice to such people is to simply pay for sex. Talk about missing the point.

Reading comprehension is important.

"It's hard to garner much sympathy for people who are frustrated about being virgins, yet consider themselves too good to pay for p****."

Notice that the bolded does NOT say "starved for human companionship", which is a lot broader in meaning.

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monkmith posted...

this is a weird topic.

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Very few people are frustrated about simply not getting any, even if their most basic voiced concern is the lack of sex. Everyone knows that there is deeper fulfillment issues going on in there, chiefly that they feel unwanted. Paying for sex, like paying someone to hang out with you does nothing for that.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Look it up I guess, probably not first definition.

No, we're talking. Just tell me what you mean.

I just get the sense this argument is just someone really wanting sex work to be normalized. Which is fine, but I don't see why you need to dress it up in this dumbass gossip topic... But gossip sure is fun I guess.

Ah, so you're being defensive because you're making baseless assumptions about my intentions. Got it.

Also I'm convinced once it gets to that point people just like hearing incels guess about what their issues are, like I said. You say you have no sympathy for this but you have the energy to make the topic and engage people

Yes, I can talk about people I have little sympathy for. It's not difficult.


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MedeaLysistrata posted...

I'm getting at the fact that there is no way for the other person to get anything out of what you propose to offer

Yes, there is. Getting laid. Believe it or not, there 100% exists plenty of people who just want to get laid. They just don't have that option.


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superman 2000 posted...

No, we're talking. Just tell me what you mean.

Ah, so you're being defensive because you're making baseless assumptions about my intentions. Got it.

Yes, I can talk about people I have little sympathy for. It's not difficult.

Do you find yourself in the company of people you have little sympathy for often? Maybe you need to hang out in less toxic spaces, but I don't want to just assume that's what this is about.

Do you have a friend that complains about this stuff?

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ThePrinceFish posted...

Very few people are frustrated about simply not getting any, even if their most basic voiced concern is the lack of sex. Everyone knows that there is deeper fulfillment issues going on in there, chiefly that they feel unwanted. Paying for sex, like paying someone to hang out with you does nothing for that.

This is patently untrue. Plenty of people would love to just have sex, but are unable to find a willing partner. It's a clumsy comparison to say it's like paying someone to pretend to be your friend. Sex CAN have meaning, but it can also just be for fun.


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