Board 8 > MCU General 5: Multiversal Shenanigans

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

Okay granddaughter, argh I don't remember everything!

wrong again lawl

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Sharon is actually Peggy's Great grandmother time spiraled by Kang

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I looked it up immediately after posting. Again, tells you how well I remember Civil War.

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Good thing it was Winter Soldier

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LMS once again revealed to never watch any of the media he likes to talk about.

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LMS continues to astound

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Two very specific Spider-Man: No Way Home pictures have been leaked online.

Be VERY careful.

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I wouldn't doubt it. The fans are doing all the marketing themselves, via these "leaks".

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I really don't get the whole spoiler culture that's developed lately. Anyone who is remotely interested in the movie is already going to see it, there's no reason spoil the coolest parts.

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I forgot about Captain Marvel already being a very contentious character even before her movie (in the comics, that is). So I guess people who follow comics were already going to hate the movie while everyone else just sees her as another Marvel superhero?

On a similar note, I find it annoying how people complain about Black Panther being labelled the "first Marvel movie with a black lead" while saying that should be Blade. At worst it's pure semantics, and at best outright wrong since Blade was only a Marvel movie in that it's based on Marvel comics whereas Black Panther is actually made by Marvel Studios. Not to mention people acting like Black Panther was mostly promoted through diversity (I have no idea how true this is, though obviously him being the first person of color to get their own solo MCU movie was a pretty big milestone at the time).

Many of these people act like Eternals was marketed mostly off of diversity, showing off how many times this was touted in interviews. Again, I don't really know how true this is, although it does seem like most of the marketing was focused on the characters and not the plot. Even then, drawing attention to their non-interventionist ways was perhaps not the best idea.

Also it's nice how they act like diversity is such a bad word. Yeah it obviously shouldn't come at the expense of story but the intense hatred these people exhibit makes it seem like they're against the whole concept.

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

the intense hatred these people exhibit makes it seem like they're against the whole concept.

Thats because they are.

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

One thing to ask not Eternals-related: why has there been so much pushback to Steve travelling back in time to be with Peggy when there was previously negative reactions to Steve hooking up with her daughter Sharon? I guess the idea is that Steve has moved on since then, which would be lost on me since I haven't seen Winter Soldier and don't really remember Civil War.

I think the pushback isn't so much because people don't want Steve and Peggy together, but because the people who oppose it argue that it contradicts the established rules of time travel. I'd also argue that Steve getting together with Peggy's grand-niece when they haven't spent all that much time together would suggest that he hasn't moved on because in that scenario Sharon is merely a replacement Carter rather than a person in her own right.

That, or they ship Cap and Bucky instead.

I'd say I don't get what Brie Larson did that gets some people so mad at her, but based on how some reacted to Scarlett Johansson complaining about how Black Widow was hyper-sexualized in Iron Man 2 I guess demanding there be more movie critics who aren't white and male really is bad enough. Kind of ironic these people make fun of "social justice warriors" getting offended about everything given how triggered they are by anyone saying anything remotely bad about white people or men.

On that note, Scarlett Johansson was arguably no bigger a name when she joined the MCU compared to Brie Larson when she joined (coincidentally Larson was rejected for the Black Widow role for being too young), and her performance in Iron Man 2 was oft-criticized for being dull. So hating on Brie Larson while letting Scarlett Johansson off the hook reeks of Phase 1 favoritism among other things.

Considering how boring I found the first Thor I can't really agree with Phase 1 favoritism! And I have a hard time believing Eternals could really be that much worse than movies like it or Black Widow.

On a more positive note, while watching Black Widow I felt like I found Scarlett Johansson even more attractive than I remembered her being. I guess her finally being in the spotlight helped so she was no longer just one of the Avengers. It felt kind of nice seeing the character one last time after getting attached to her through the other Marvel movies (I guess I'm going to love Winter Soldier aren't I?).

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how do you not get tired of yourself

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realizing this topic's gonna take longer to fill up since people likely have LMS blocked

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GuessMyUserName posted...

realizing this topic's gonna take longer to fill up since people likely have LMS blocked

yeah I almost suggested making a different topic when it went up because of this

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yeah, never thought i'd say this but i'm kinda with ulti on this one. almost every time LMS posts, it's followed up by a snarky leonhart post. that's not necessary.

LMS's posts are harmless and he occasionally makes valid points. not sure why he continually needs to get bashed.

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every single time LMS posts it's the same exact post

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I mean they're harmless in the sense that he almost never attacks anyone but I'd disagree that he ever makes valid points because

GuessMyUserName posted...

every single time LMS posts it's the same exact post

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Ulti, if it was you, it would be Warcraft III, its own topic, once in 10 weeks maximum.

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nope I am not the "if you just ignore bad posts they'll go away" guy

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LeonhartFour posted...

nope I am not the "if you just ignore bad posts they'll go away" guy

aren't you telling me all the time i should just ignore posts calling me out instead of engaging? >_>

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I tell you that you don't have to respond to every post about you, especially the negative ones. That's more about choosing your battles. I ignore all the politics topics because I know it won't be good for me on any level to read them or engage them.

It's different from the "just don't feed the trolls and they'll stop trolling" idea that some people posit. Even if nobody else posted here, LMS would fill this topic with 500 posts of his own musings and reactions to bad YouTube videos.

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LeonhartFour posted...

It's different from the "just don't feed the trolls and they'll stop trolling" idea that some people posit. Even if nobody else posted here, LMS would fill this topic with 500 posts of his own musings and reactions to bad YouTube videos.

but telling LMS to stop evidently isn't stopping him either.

also, i wouldn't say he's a troll.

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Nah LMS is sincere

But he also doesn't actually care if anyone engages him or not.

Who knows, he might be the healthiest poster here!

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i mean being fixated on reviews, youtube commentators, and culture wars to the point you're utterly incapable of talking about anything outside of that scope can't possibly be healthy

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well that part isn't healthy but he certainly doesn't seem to be bothered by what anyone here thinks of him!

which is why I don't mind just snarking at his LMS-ness, it's making the most of the situation imhotbqh

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Hey I've toned it down, largely with your advice!

Also if you've seen Eternals I have a comic question.

I'm waiting until Thanksgiving to see it with my parents - we've watched every MCU movie together since Iron Man, so it's a tradition.

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scarletspeed7 posted...

I'm waiting until Thanksgiving to see it with my parents - we've watched every MCU movie together since Iron Man, so it's a tradition.

That's quite endearing.

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that's actually kinda the case with me and my dad

I honestly wouldn't be going to theatres if it wasn't for him, he hates being cooped up in the house so it's something to do together that makes him happy

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tbh I don't want to see another post of LMS salivating over ScarJo, and it's our duty as community to remind him that, (along with pretending that he saw Black Widow when he clearly only watched Youtube videos) is not appropriate behavior

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That's fair. Also I did in fact see Black Widow. And I meant that more to come off as a general compliment, though I definitely understand it doesn't come off appropriately (plus calling attention to it). Whoops. Also she doesn't like that nickname.

I'm still amazed how much some people hate Brie Larson online, but her already being very popular even without her Marvel appearances and never having complained about it herself do go many ways towards mitigating that. But still, getting this upset over what shouldn't even be a particularly revolutionary statement? People act like she's some ungodly Karen or something (even in that regard, there are quite a few in Hollywood who are much worse like Elizabeth Banks and Sophia Takal). It just seems incredibly out-of-step to me for these people who act like Brie Larson didn't exist until that outburst where she demanded that there be more film critics who aren't white and male. I mean, I had never heard of her before her Oscar win, but still!

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I thought he was salivating over Peggy Carter.

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

I'm still amazed how much some people hate Brie Larson online

GuessMyUserName posted...

every single time LMS posts it's the same exact post

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brie larson is an unpleasant person. she's generally disliked for more reasons than just her statement on critics.

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FFDragon posted...

I thought he was salivating over Peggy Carter.

What have I done? I do honestly like Peggy a lot, and not just for that.

How is Brie Larson unpleasant? She comes off as nothing of the sort to me.

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You literally apologized for lusting over Hayley Atwell so I'm surprised you've already forgotten

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

How is Brie Larson unpleasant? She comes off as nothing of the sort to me.

watch redlettermedia's review of captain marvel. they do a good job explaining it.

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Actually thinking about it I understand a little. But uh RedLetterMedia, totally trustworthy.

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Leonhart4 posted...

You literally apologized for lusting over Hayley Atwell so I'm surprised you've already forgotten

Saying she's really attractive once is lusting over?

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Again, you were the one who apologized for going too far with it, so I don't know why you're asking me

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It's mostly the terminology you're using. I admit I shouldn't have said that.

I was trying to say something nice about the Black Widow movie and I ended up drawing attention to myself in a way I really shouldn't have.

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

But uh RedLetterMedia, totally trustworthy.

wut? what's wrong with RLM?

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Yeah it's more they rub me the wrong way. In fairness though I started watching their review of Captain Marvel but then checked out the minute they acted as if Brie Larson didn't want white men to see the movie (that is one heck of an exaggeration, from I DON'T CARE WHAT A 40-YEAR OLD WHITE DUDE THINKS OF A WRINKLE IN TIME to not wanting white men to see her movies? Never mind she said that about a movie she wasn't even in, so at least it's not as low as how people like Dwayne Johnson and Henry Cavill reacted to their movies getting bad reviews).

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i don't really remember how they presented that incident, it's been awhile since i watched the review. but the reason i brought it up is because the first part of the review was about how brie larson continually acts shitty.

also, there's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i3y3et-VFE

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