Current Events > Alec Baldwin appears to deflect blame by retweeting article about David Halls

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Alec Baldwin retweeted a news article about Rust assistant director Dave Halls telling officials he should have checked all the rounds during a gun inspection on the movies set.

The article, which was published by the New York Times, referenced a search warrant affidavit released Wednesday, less than a week after cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was fatally wounded by a shot from a prop firearm that was being handled by Baldwin.

In the affidavit, investigators say Halls told officials he could only remember seeing three rounds when he inspected the gun.

He advised he should have checked them all, but didnt, and couldnt recall if (armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed) had spun the gun, reads the document, which was released by the Santa Fe County Sheriffs Office.

Baldwin was rehearsing a scene for the Western movie in which he drew a gun and pointed it toward a camera when the incident occurred last Thursday, the films director, Joel Souza, told investigators last week.

Halls told authorities he didnt realize the gun was loaded, and described the situation as not a deliberate act.

No one has been ruled out from facing charges as an investigation continues, District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies said Wednesday.

We are not at the juncture yet, Carmack-Altwies said at a press conference. If the facts and evidence and law support charges, then I will initiate prosecution at that time.

Authorities suspect additional live rounds were on the movies set that day, according to Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza.

We suspect that there were other live rounds, but thats up to the testing, Mendoza said at the press conference. Right now, were going to determine how those got there, and why they were there, because they shouldnt have been....

...There are no words to convey my shock and sadness regarding the tragic accident that took the life of Halyna Hutchins, a wife, mother and deeply admired colleague of ours, Baldwin tweeted Friday.

Baldwin, who is also a producer for the movie, previously posted a Variety article referencing an affidavit that said Halls declared a cold gun was on set, indicating the firearm wasnt loaded.

Yeah multiple people at fault here.. Armory/prop person, AD and Baldwin himself arguably. It's dumb that Actor's aren't trained for this and it makes it easier to them to deflect blame.

Safety needs to be mandated now on all production sets and all actors must be trained on gun safety, maintenance, malfunction, and check before they use the weapon. They are the last line of defense.

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As an actor Baldwin isnt to blame.
As a producer who helped short change the budget, he is.

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Arcanine2009 posted...

Safety needs to be mandated now on all production sets and all actors must be trained on gun safety, maintenance, malfunction, and check before they use the weapon. They are the last line of defense.

They shouldn't be using real guns in the first place. People will adjust even if it looks a little fake. There's already a ton of stuff in movies and TV that is totally fake but people take for granted anyway, like a ton of sound effects.

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BeyondWalls posted...

As an actor Baldwin isnt to blame.
As a producer who helped short change the budget, he is.

As the guy holding the firearm who never personally checked the gun after picking it up, he is to blame.

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I don't think Baldwin is criminally responsible for this women's death, but he should probably just shut the fuck up until this blows over

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ThePrinceFish posted...

As the guy holding the firearm who never personally checked the gun after picking it up, he is to blame.

Exactly. Anti gun people never seem to follow the basics of firearm safety.

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ThePrinceFish posted...

As the guy holding the firearm who never personally checked the gun after picking it up, he is to blame.

I think he is partily responsible, but multiple people and companies. AD, prop and the production set known to cut corners on safety.

Fuck I would stop the production of this movie entirely at this point.

The system itself is shit.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

I don't think Baldwin is criminally responsible for this women's death, but he should probably just shut the fuck up until this blows over

Im surprised his lawyer hasnt advised him to refrain from posting/commenting.

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Sariana21 posted...

Im surprised his lawyer hasnt advised him to refrain from posting/commenting.

We can advise all we want, but we can't actually restrain a client from doing something stupid if they don't run it by us or are deadset on doing it. >_>

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If you pick up a gun, aim it at someone and pull the trigger, you better be 100% confident that gun doesn't kill someone.

Fuck him for deflecting blame. He's a piece of shit.

I don't know what kind of piece of shit it takes to think they have no responsibility when handling a gun.

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MiIkMan posted...

If you pick up a gun, aim it at someone and pull the trigger, you better be 100% confident that gun doesn't kill someone.

Fuck him for deflecting blame. He's a piece of shit.

I don't know what kind of piece of shit it takes to think they have no responsibility when handling a gun.

Take your meds.

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Alec should probably see some jail time given he took another person's life

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DrizztLink posted...

Take your meds.

Am I mentally unstable because I think handling a gun requires responsibility?

What a deranged thing to imply. You the kinda guy that points a gun at your friends as a joke?

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Solid Snake07 posted...

I don't think Baldwin is criminally responsible for this women's death, but he should probably just shut the fuck up until this blows over

Pretty much

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Conflict posted...

The hilarious irony in that first statement and you asking that dumb question after it

It was an intentionally stupid question, lol.

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Even if 10 people check a firearm before it gets you its still your responsibility to also make sure it isnt loaded.

ESPECIALLY if youre going to be the one handling it, or in this case pulling the damn trigger on a crowded set.

To act like its more so someone elses responsibility to ensure it wasnt loaded is asinine. The blame doesnt solely rest on Baldwin, but hes pretty much equally to blame as anyone else on that set that could/should have checked that gun.

gamer167 posted...

Even if 10 people check a firearm before it gets you its still your responsibility to also make sure it isnt loaded.

ESPECIALLY if youre going to be the one handling it, or in this case pulling the damn trigger on a crowded set.

To act like its more so someone elses responsibility to ensure it wasnt loaded is asinine. The blame doesnt solely rest on Baldwin, but hes pretty much equally to blame as anyone else on that set that could/should have checked that gun.

I think the best way to do it would be to go through the process together.

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If actors personally check guns they're risking fucking things up themselves and being solely liable. That's never going to happen.

At most someone else can show them it's safe but that's still relying on someone else.

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Actors have the option of checking but the industry might need to make that essential and part of their training going forward. Don't ever leave that to chance even if the prop master and armorer before you are the most responsible.
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BlinxTheSweeper posted...

If actors personally check guns they're risking fucking things up themselves and being solely liable. That's never going to happen.

At most someone else can show them it's safe but that's still relying on someone else.

You might have a point if Baldwin, as a producer, didn't cut corners by hiring an inexperienced armorer work on the movie and by allowing live ammo to be brought on set for target practice during down time.

UnrealizedGains posted...

You might have a point if Baldwin, as a producer, didn't cut corners by hiring an inexperienced armorer work on the movie and by allowing live ammo to be brought on set for target practice during down time.

As far as I know the extent of what his producer role entails isn't known. Often it's just used as a credit to give the movie legitimacy (which is why you see someone like Steven Spielberg be a producer on many movies be probably had fuck all to do with) and for the actor to get a different pay grade.

Executive Producers are more likely to be the one to hire armorers and the like.

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conservatives wanting to ban guns in movies is not the turn I expected 2021 to have but im not surprised

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metralo posted...

conservatives wanting to ban guns in movies is not the turn I expected 2021 to have but im not surprised

If we had less movies centered around exploding heads., I think that would be nice.

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Isn't the gun supposed to be loaded? But with blanks instead of live rounds. Checking to see if the gun is loaded or not wouldn't help you at all.

He definitely has no liability for the shot itself, but for the surrounding events (i.e. cutting corners) he may be partially to blame.

Doubt what he did would be considered criminal though. Just something to weigh on his conscious.

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Do you think that Arnold, Sylvester, or Bruce check their weapons before the director says "Action!"?

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Do you think that Arnold, Sylvester, or Bruce cut corners for dangerous stunts and hire an inexperienced person with colored hair to handle the guns?

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oh didnt even notice this

typical maga basement dwelling shitstain on the planet

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ThePrinceFish posted...

As the guy holding the firearm who never personally checked the gun after picking it up, he is to blame.

Way to show you dont know what youre talking about for movies and guns.

Its the actors job to act their scenes. Its the armorers and ADs job to check the firearms.

The only blame you can put on Baldwin is that hes also a producer so if he helped make the decisions that led to what happened, then hed be at fault. But the actor part of his job isnt liable for what happened.
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Wipe the froth from your mouth TC, it isn't a good look.

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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Way to show you dont know what youre talking about for movies and guns.

Its the actors job to act their scenes. Its the armorers and ADs job to check the firearms.

The only blame you can put on Baldwin is that hes also a producer so if he helped make the decisions that led to what happened, then hed be at fault. But the actor part of his job isnt liable for what happened.

red hats suddenly learning how making movies work because someone who didnt like trump experienced a once in a generation tragedy

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Damn_Underscore posted...

Isn't the gun supposed to be loaded? But with blanks instead of live rounds. Checking to see if the gun is loaded or not wouldn't help you at all.

He definitely has no liability for the shot itself, but for the surrounding events (i.e. cutting corners) he may be partially to blame.

Doubt what he did would be considered criminal though. Just something to weigh on his conscious.

I believe they were rehearsing so no blanks would have been in use (no one would have announced it was a cold gun with blanks loaded). However the firearm in question was a revolver so it probably had (or was supposed to have) dummy rounds loaded, which are even less distinguishable from live rounds as blanks are. Revolvers need to have dummy rounds loaded even for non-shooting scenes because the audience can see the chambers. Although if they were just rehearsing or practicing not sure why anything would need to be loaded at all but

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