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ButteryMales
11/02/21 12:25:20 PM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
These people are quitting because the mandate forces them to, end the mandate and people will stop quitting their careers.
Oh no, alcoholics are quitting drinking because drunk driving is illegal, that's so sad.
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TheVipaGTS
11/02/21 12:25:22 PM
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dirtydog posted...
the people doing it aren't pussies.
Yes they are.

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CyricZ
11/02/21 12:26:35 PM
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Hearing a lot of weird stuff from the people who, when the subject is stagnant wages, diminishing benefits, or general poverty, will say "just find another job". Suddenly that's not the best answer?

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Umbreon
11/02/21 12:28:23 PM
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dirtydog posted...
Yep who cares if it's unconstitutional and discriminatory

It's neither of those. We've had vaccine mandates before you were born. Idiots bitched about those too.

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UltraDeku
11/02/21 12:29:51 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
No cops.
No nurses.
No firefighters.
No garbage collectors.
No brains.

Gg nyc lol.
There are nurses against the mandate!?

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Ruvan22
11/02/21 12:33:51 PM
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dirtydog posted...
Yep who cares if it's unconstitutional and discriminatory. People have to do what we tell them, oh and we're the good guys.

How exactly is it unconstitutional or discriminatory?
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CyricZ
11/02/21 12:34:55 PM
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UltraDeku posted...
There are nurses against the mandate!?
A few. They're seeking religious exemption.

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dirtydog
11/02/21 12:34:57 PM
#59:


Ruvan22 posted...
How exactly is it unconstitutional or discriminatory?

Discriminatory: "treating particular people, companies, or products differently from others"

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/eleven-states-sue-us-government-over-vaccine-mandate-federal-contractors-2021-10-30/

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Ruvan22
11/02/21 12:35:35 PM
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dirtydog posted...
Standing up for what's right takes guts, the people doing it aren't pussies. Biden promised there would be no mandates, he lied.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55193939
So in this case the antivaxxers are standing up for whats right"?
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Ruvan22
11/02/21 12:37:01 PM
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dirtydog posted...
Discriminatory: "treating particular people, companies, or products differently from others"
A) Yes that's the definition - how does it apply here? Blind people are already discriminated against as they can't be firefighter
B) What's unconstitutional?
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Umbreon
11/02/21 12:38:40 PM
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Looks like dirtydog blocked me. What a response to telling him about the history of vaccinations.

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Ruvan22
11/02/21 12:39:59 PM
#63:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
These people are quitting because the mandate forces them to, end the mandate and people will stop quitting their careers.

Should they end all mandates?
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Skype
11/02/21 12:41:17 PM
#64:


Umbreon posted...
Looks like dirtydog blocked me. What a response to telling him about the history of vaccinations.

He blocked me too for pointing out he's always having meltdowns for saying he's being oppressed as a white person.

Dude is weird.

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Ruvan22
11/02/21 12:41:28 PM
#65:


Umbreon posted...
Looks like dirtydog blocked me. What a response to telling him about the history of vaccinations.
Is that why posts are suddenly missing? I've never been blocked before...
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Intro2Logic
11/02/21 12:42:50 PM
#69:


Fade2black001 posted...
Way to go Biden for making the country go to s*** even more.
Biden was not involved in NYC's vaccine mandate

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Fluttershy
11/02/21 12:42:59 PM
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Fade2black001
11/02/21 12:43:06 PM
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M_Live posted...
Yeah, you're spreading it. Fuck off.
No he's not. Look at the evidence and the facts

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Fluttershy
11/02/21 12:47:08 PM
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No he's not. Look at the evidence and the facts

read: check out these studies that the alt-right have either wildly misinterpreted or misunderstood

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Fade2black001
11/02/21 12:51:05 PM
#73:


Fluttershy posted...
No he's not. Look at the evidence and the facts

read: check out these studies that the alt-right have either wildly misinterpreted or misunderstood
I refuse to take it cause I don't want the chance of dying from it

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Fade2black001
11/02/21 12:56:08 PM
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M_Live posted...
Lol
You laugh but facts and evidence have shown that they're deaths from people getting it.

https://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/cdc-publishes-rates-covid-19-cases-deaths-vaccine-brand

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DarkRoast
11/02/21 12:56:17 PM
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Fade2black001 posted...
I refuse to take it cause I don't want the chance of dying from it

800,000 Americans have died of COVID-19 / 47 Million cases = 1.7% mortality
3 Americans have died after 221 million vaccinations = 0.0000014% mortality

You're 1,214,000x more likely to die from COVID


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Umbreon
11/02/21 12:56:42 PM
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Far more people have died from Covid than have significant side effects from the vaccine. Being willing to risk the former to avoid the latter doesn't track.


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Fade2black001
11/02/21 12:59:08 PM
#78:


DarkRoast posted...
800,000 Americans have died of COVID-19 / 47 Million cases = 1.7% mortality
3 Americans have died after 221 million vaccinations = 0.0000014% mortality

You're 1,214,000x more likely to die from COVID
Its a lot more than 3
try thousands

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DarkRoast
11/02/21 12:59:39 PM
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Fade2black001 posted...
You laugh but facts and evidence have shown that they're deaths from people getting it.

https://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/cdc-publishes-rates-covid-19-cases-deaths-vaccine-brand



So you're 5x to 15x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated.
And this was your attempt to downplay the vaccine's effectiveness?


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Fade2black001
11/02/21 1:02:09 PM
#81:


DarkRoast posted...


So you're 5x to 15x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated.
And this was your attempt to downplay the vaccine's effectiveness?
It has gotten a lot better that's for sure.

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DarkRoast
11/02/21 1:03:24 PM
#82:


Fade2black001 posted...
Its a lot more than 3
try thousands

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html



Casual reminder that I have to report people who die in car wrecks to VAERS. Few if any of the deaths on VAERS show causality in any way.

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Umbreon
11/02/21 1:04:02 PM
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So I looked at the article, and it's not "People are dying from the vaccine", but "Some people die from Covid despite taking the vaccine".

So more false information.

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DarkRoast
11/02/21 1:04:06 PM
#84:


Fade2black001 posted...
It has gotten a lot better that's for sure.
It wasn't a downplay of anything. I am just exercising my right not to take it

And I'm exercising my responsibility as an educated healthcare professional to correct misinformation.

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Unsugarized_Foo
11/02/21 1:04:53 PM
#85:


DeBlasio is the true hero saving lives today

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DarkRoast
11/02/21 1:05:03 PM
#86:


Umbreon posted...
So I looked at the article, and it's not "People are dying from the vaccine", but "Some people die from Covid despite taking the vaccine".

So more false information.

Yes, it's because they don't actually read their own articles. And the few that do don't understand them. This malignant ignorance allows these people to spread their misinformation through echo chambers.

Every person who chooses not to vaccinate based on b******* like this is both endangering themselves and endangering other people. A complete inability to recognize how epidemiologic data works, combined with dangerous overconfidence and paranoia, is literally getting people killed.

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ButteryMales
11/02/21 1:05:37 PM
#87:


Fade2black001 posted...
You laugh but facts and evidence have shown that they're deaths from people getting it.

https://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/cdc-publishes-rates-covid-19-cases-deaths-vaccine-brand
What? That's about breakthrough cases.

https://youtu.be/PP2oko_Xz9s
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Fade2black001
11/02/21 1:06:59 PM
#88:


DarkRoast posted...
And I'm exercising my responsibility as an educated healthcare professional to correct misinformation.
duly noted and thank you

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DarkRoast
11/02/21 1:09:53 PM
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One of the biggest problems with anti-vaxx misinformation groups is that they have zero interest in going back and correcting their misinformation. It's just a constant fire hosing of misinformation. Misrepresenting breakthrough cases as a vaccination failure is probably the best example. That said, I think the most egregious abuse of statistics is the base rate fallacy. They love to choose countries with very high vaccination rates and then say the vaccinated cohort is the one with more cases. Conveniently ignoring that the vaccinated cohort is often eight or nine times as large.




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MelbuFrahma4
11/02/21 1:16:38 PM
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IG post in OP seems to have been deleted.

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Hop103
11/02/21 1:20:17 PM
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RIP NYC, I suggest getting out of NYC as soon as possible.
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tnuu
11/02/21 1:28:08 PM
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hockeybub89
11/02/21 1:37:36 PM
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Heartbreaking that so many public safety and healthcare workers don't care about other people. Them getting out of that field is a service to us all. We're seeing their true colors.

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Zeus
11/02/21 1:37:59 PM
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Just think, NY is that much safer for having those anti-vaxxers done. And obviously the biggest threat during a fire isn't the fire, it's the heavily-masked firefighters potentially spreading COVID... oh wait.

ThyCorndog posted...
The FDNY waiting list is very long. Congrats to all the people out there that were waiting in line for months/years on their new jobs

At least until they're also suspended for not following the protocols.

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ButteryMales
11/02/21 1:39:42 PM
#97:


Zeus posted...
Just think, NY is that much safer for having those anti-vaxxers done. And obviously the biggest threat during a fire isn't the fire, it's the heavily-masked firefighters potentially spreading COVID... oh wait.

At least until they're also suspended for not following the protocols.
, you're 10 minutes too late bub.
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Tappor
11/02/21 1:40:12 PM
#98:


tnuu posted...
https://www.newsweek.com/fdny-denies-firehouse-closed-due-de-blasio-vaccine-mandate-after-banner-draws-attention-1645066

The mandate went into effect on Monday, and the majority of employees have chosen to get vaccinated, including 82 percent of the fire department, according to the FDNY.

Topic's over, go home.

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UltraDeku
11/02/21 8:13:03 PM
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Ruvan22
11/04/21 7:55:38 PM
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And Fade is in purgatory
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