Current Events > Do people actually care about Lebrons stance on China?

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Rayman2943
11/20/21 10:58:37 AM
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Or are they just jealous of his wealth, accomplishments and fame?
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Rayman2943
11/20/21 10:58:43 AM
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Especially since
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Veggeta_MAX
11/20/21 11:01:07 AM
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IMO, he obviously don't like being a shill to China but he cares way too much about making money from them to truly say anything against them which isn't a good thing. But one thing to consider is you have to weigh out his goods vs his bads, and most of CE can only want to see his bad.

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Srk700
11/20/21 11:07:08 AM
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It's mainly because he's been the face of the league and one of it's top 2-5 players for so long. If he had the talent + popularity of someone like Paul George or Damian Lillard I don't think people would care as much.
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LeadPipeCinche
11/20/21 11:09:20 AM
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No but then again I don't care what he says or does
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kingdrake2
11/20/21 11:12:55 AM
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M_Live posted...
I dont even know what his stance on China is


if he's a supporter of the CCP like jackie chan then it's really bad.
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TommyG663513
11/20/21 11:19:53 AM
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It's hypocritical, because LeBron tweets and comments about various social justices issues in America. Then he mostly just refuses to say anything negative about China, a country filled with social justice issues, due to their governments extreme stances against any sort of free speech and Lebron's desire to continue making money off of that country.

So that is the real sense in which it matters. Lebron cares about social justice issues in terms of how it effects him.


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Rayman2943
11/20/21 11:30:05 AM
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TommyG663513 posted...
It's hypocritical, because LeBron tweets and comments about various social justices issues in America. Then he mostly just refuses to say anything negative about China, a country filled with social justice issues, due to their governments extreme stances against any sort of free speech and Lebron's desire to continue making money off of that country.

So that is the real sense in which it matters. Lebron cares about social justice issues in terms of how it effects him.
You mean like most people lol
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Solid Snake07
11/20/21 11:33:50 AM
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He's a shill without any real principles. Which is fine, but stfu and stop acting like you do.

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Rayman2943
11/20/21 11:34:14 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
He's a shill without any real principles. Which is fine, but stfu and stop acting like you do.
Lol solid snake post
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Tyranthraxus
11/20/21 11:35:06 AM
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M_Live posted...
I dont even know what his stance on China is
His stance is he apologized because he said "Taiwan" or something like that

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Solid Snake07
11/20/21 11:37:22 AM
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Rayman2943 posted...
Lol solid snake post


Says our newest fast rising shit post account

Who's alt are you again?

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legendary_zell
11/20/21 11:38:22 AM
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TommyG663513 posted...
It's hypocritical, because LeBron tweets and comments about various social justices issues in America. Then he mostly just refuses to say anything negative about China, a country filled with social justice issues, due to their governments extreme stances against any sort of free speech and Lebron's desire to continue making money off of that country.

So that is the real sense in which it matters. Lebron cares about social justice issues in terms of how it effects him.


This is almost everyone that's ever lived, including civil rights leaders, with the exception of some international socialists. I doubt you're criticizing him because he's not one of those though.

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jsb0714
11/20/21 11:38:55 AM
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Rayman2943 posted...
You mean like most people lol
Most people aren't in the public eye.
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Rayman2943
11/20/21 11:41:17 AM
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jsb0714 posted...
Most people aren't in the public eye.
So?
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kingdrake2
11/20/21 11:44:59 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
he apologized because he said "Taiwan" or something like that


still counts as being a "china apologist" screw lebron.
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Veggeta_MAX
11/20/21 11:45:40 AM
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Rayman2943 posted...
You mean like most people lol
Regardless this isn't a good trait. To be a real progressive you need to stand up for what's right on all fronts.

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Sada_Pop
11/20/21 12:00:15 PM
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I'm sure a few people care.

Most don't give a shit and just don't like that Lebron speaks out on issues that affect the black community, so they trash him.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
11/20/21 12:06:05 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
His stance is he apologized because he said "Taiwan" or something like that
it was when the 76ers owner was attacking China for their issues like genocide and Lebron responded by saying how anyone criticizing China is uneducated on the subject and needs to do more research

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Junior_AIN
11/20/21 12:18:17 PM
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They just want to test how much of a hypocrite he is.

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gamestunner
11/20/21 12:27:02 PM
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No none of that, I'm still irked the way he danced with the knicks back in 2010. I mean I knew he wasn't coming, but he should've kept it going, plus to get on national tv to make a "decision" that was already made a season or 2 prior.
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_HayleyWilliams
11/20/21 12:30:03 PM
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He's dumb, but his critics are literally posting from Chinese electronics. How that boycott going?

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ViewtifulGrave
11/20/21 1:06:36 PM
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_HayleyWilliams posted...
He's dumb, but his critics are literally posting from Chinese electronics. How that boycott going?
How exactly is Lebron dumb?

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ThePrinceFish
11/20/21 1:08:47 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
it was when the 76ers owner was attacking China for their issues like genocide and Lebron responded by saying how anyone criticizing China is uneducated on the subject and needs to do more research
Or when the Rockets GM tweeted about support for pro-democracy protests and Lelbron's take was that he needs to be conscious of the things he tweets because it could cost NBA players their Chinabux.

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gatorsPENSbucs
11/20/21 1:20:06 PM
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Its funny to me that Enes is talking all this shit about Lebron, putting it all over his sneakers, and then when he has a perfectly good opportunity to talk to Lebron he just walks right by him.

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Sada_Pop
11/20/21 1:30:11 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Its funny to me that Enes is talking all this shit about Lebron, putting it all over his sneakers, and then when he has a perfectly good opportunity to talk to Lebron he just walks right by him.
Just looking for attention

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ViewtifulGrave
11/20/21 1:45:46 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Or when the Rockets GM tweeted about support for pro-democracy protests and Lelbron's take was that he needs to be conscious of the things he tweets because it could cost NBA players their Chinabux.
How is this a problem when most Americans complacent with buying products from china?

Its sad to say, but for most hating china is more of a fad right now. They just want seem like they care and just bandwagon and parrot what others say.

Could Lebron did things differently regarding china, sure, but people seem to conveniently forget all the good here in the states.

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ModLogic
11/20/21 2:02:06 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
It's hypocritical, because LeBron tweets and comments about various social justices issues in America. Then he mostly just refuses to say anything negative about China, a country filled with social justice issues, due to their governments extreme stances against any sort of free speech and Lebron's desire to continue making money off of that country.

So that is the real sense in which it matters. Lebron cares about social justice issues in terms of how it effects him.
"but but but whatabout chy-nah"

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AngelsNAirwav3s
11/20/21 2:09:51 PM
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People dont like hypocrites, its pretty simple

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_HayleyWilliams
11/20/21 2:14:13 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
People dont like hypocrites, its pretty simple
Ironic that hypocrites are mad at a hypocrite

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WalkingLobsters
11/20/21 2:46:02 PM
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Qing James

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Veggeta_MAX
11/20/21 2:47:00 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
But one thing to consider is you have to weigh out his goods vs his bads, and most of CE can only want to see his bad.


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kingdrake2
11/20/21 3:26:57 PM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
How is this a problem when most Americans complacent with buying products from china?


i still think that's something different :(.
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BB mofo
11/20/21 3:36:23 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
if he's a supporter of the CCP like jackie chan then it's really bad.

I think it's a different case for Jackie Chan. He was the global face of Hong Kong all through the 80s and early 90s. He had even participated in televised pro-Democracy festivals and had also spoken out against the Tiannamen Square Massacre when it had happened. So him cozying up to the CCP was to Hong Kong citizens the equivalent of Captain America saying "Hail Hydra" in the comics.

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ViewtifulGrave
11/20/21 6:32:03 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
i still think that's something different :(.
So its ok to consume Chinas product as long as you say that theyre bad?

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MrNintendo1213
11/20/21 6:53:38 PM
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I see you have problems with society. Curious how you live in one, hmmmmmm?????
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Dusk_
11/20/21 6:54:15 PM
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Lebrons a coward.
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Funkydog
11/20/21 6:58:14 PM
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MrNintendo1213 posted...
I see you have problems with society. Curious how you live in one, hmmmmmm?????

They are very smart to think of this to be fair.
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TommyG663513
11/21/21 8:06:47 AM
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Rayman2943 posted...
You mean like most people lol

Most people aren't making millions off of China. So no it is not at all like most people.

I mean, I don't really hate LeBron for it or anything like that. This is definitely a knock against him though. He isn't exactly putting his money where his mouth is.

I tend to defend LeBron the vast majority of the time, but I shake my head at him turning such a blind eye to China for financial gain.

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Kami_no_Kami
11/21/21 8:09:47 AM
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Dont care what a basketball player thinks more than your average Joe but it is a shame for those who look up to him, I suppose.
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cjsdowg
11/21/21 8:16:10 AM
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He is black man that have spoken about racial injustice in America.

Since he is literally everything that racist Republicans say that a black man should be if he wants to get respect. They have to find something to complain about. The fact that our Trump literally talked about how great Xi was. Doesn't seem to hold the same weight as much of James saying he isn't going to talk on China.

So in short just racist being racist.

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TommyG663513
11/21/21 10:14:43 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
He is black man that have spoken about racial injustice in America.

Since he is literally everything that racist Republicans say that a black man should be if he wants to get respect. They have to find something to complain about. The fact that our Trump literally talked about how great Xi was. Doesn't seem to hold the same weight as much of James saying he isn't going to talk on China.

So in short just racist being racist.

Lebron criticized someone as being misinformed for supporting the Hong Kong protests

I agree that there are bad faith conservatives trying to make this a bigger deal than it is

It's still something that LeBron should be called out on for though.

It's also stupid to bring up Trump as a deflection. "But Trump" will always continue to be a stupid defense just like "but Hilary" always was. They're not the same level of bad, but they both clearly qualify as stupid.

I'm generally a LeBron apologist here too, but his comments on the Hong Kong protests were just stupid. It doesn't discredit everything he has ever said about social justice in America, but yeah it is inconsistent with that value system he holds.

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cjsdowg
11/21/21 10:26:23 AM
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TommyG663513 posted...
I'm generally a LeBron apologist here too, but his comments on the Hong Kong protests were just stupid. It doesn't discredit everything he has ever said about social justice in America, but yeah it is inconsistent with that value system he holds.

The same James haters who who supported the HK protest are the same people who wanted to ARMY to crack down on the BLM protest. So yeah fuck those people.

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TommyG663513
11/21/21 10:38:11 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
The same James haters who who supported the HK protest are the same people who wanted to ARMY to crack down on the BLM protest. So yeah fuck those people.

I'm not a James hater and I support the HK protests and found James comments on it to be really disappointing.

You can hate on the bad faith conservatives who are just looking for a gotcha and still shake your head at what LeBron said.

I mean, what LeBron said was straight up stupid no matter what you think and his intentions with his words were pretty obvious.

Are you pro or anti the HK protests?

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Protopet
11/21/21 11:08:08 AM
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American celebrities cozying up to the CCP is not good for the world. It's very simple.

It's not okay when LeBron does it, it's not okay when John Cena does it. Turning it into a race thing is ridiculous.

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_HayleyWilliams
11/21/21 11:10:34 AM
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Protopet posted...
American celebrities cozying up to the CCP is not good for the world. It's very simple.

It's not okay when LeBron does it, it's not okay when John Cena does it. Turning it into a race thing is ridiculous.
Our government has done it for decades, so why not our celebrities? Money is more important than human rights to the powerful.

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cjsdowg
11/21/21 12:26:09 PM
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Protopet posted...
American celebrities cozying up to the CCP is not good for the world. It's very simple.

It's not okay when LeBron does it, it's not okay when John Cena does it. Turning it into a race thing is ridiculous.

When they go after Trump for his buddy buddy relationship with Xi. Then come talk about James. And while we are at when those same people talk about the abuses here at home. Then they can bitch about China. We are freaking boiling people alive in our jails . And say nothing.. but yeah lets talk about China.

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Funkydog
11/21/21 12:45:32 PM
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cjsdowg posted...


When they go after Trump for his buddy buddy relationship with Xi. Then come talk about James. And while we are at when those same people talk about the abuses here at home. Then they can bitch about China. We are freaking boiling people alive in our jails . And say nothing.. but yeah lets talk about China.

I will introduce you to a mysterious concept of criticising both.

This "defence" for China, by saying "WHAT ABOUT OTHER PLACES OFFENCES" is utter bullshit and damn transparent what is being done. Don't fucking defend a genocidal dictatorship just because somewhere else is a pile of crap.
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