Current Events > Looking back at Indiana Jones 4, why did the _ bother people so much? (spoilers)

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The Top Crusader posted...

I don't love Crystal Skull but I actually like it better than Temple of Doom. >_>

I guess this applies to me as well. I've tried to like Temple of Doom since childhood, but I simply do not enjoy it from start to finish. I'm struggling to think of a part of the movie I genuinely like, and the only thing that comes to mind is when Indy says 'ah, shit' on the rope bridge.

On the other hand, there are parts of Crystal Skull that I thought were really good. I loved the diner brawl and car / bike chase towards the beginning of the movie, that was primo Indy stuff right there. And I thought the quicksand scene was pretty cute. These moments get drowned out by the tidal wave of horrendous implausibility that is the rest of the movie and it's hard to justify sitting through the whole mess just to watch these scenes, but I still remember said scenes fondly.

It didnt really bother me outside them being interdimensional. They should have just been motherfuckers from outer space. Not some other dimension.

archedsoul posted...

It didnt really bother me outside them being interdimensional. They should have just been motherfuckers from outer space. Not some other dimension.

I'm fine with that. It just didn't all quite fit together. The exposition, the build up, the special effects used to make the alien, the design of the skull. It really helped pique my interest in those subjects tho, yes. Religion was a huge subject in entertainment at the time. I caught onto that.

Not sure we needed Shia but hey, it is what it is

I wanted to see more of him as Indie Jr. Or did I? Or did I not all the time? Hmmmm

Because it's racist as fuck to imply the Mesoamerican pyramids were built by aliens

*Inter-dimensional beings

LordFarquad1312 posted...

You (seem) to not understand why that notion was so popular

... You see. We Still Can't Figure Out Exactly How The Fuck They Did It!!

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.......... WE can't build anything like that without extreme effort. Extreme. And we're quite advanced & plush compared to then.

It's like ancient architecture is just a lost language in general.tbh

I mean scientology is a religion

I enjoyed it. And Im more the target audience (grew up with the originals) than some. None of the movies is great, per se, but theyre all fun. (Well, #2 isnt much fun with the child slavery and all.)

I think expectations were just too high. And people dont like Shia LeBeouf. (Hell always be Louis Stevens to me!)

UnfairRepresent posted...

I mean scientology is a religion

Scientology + Harvard + Antarctica = ???

Sariana21 posted...

None of the movies is great, per se,

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/7/9/AAZiH8AABCYH.jpg

JuanCarlos1 posted...

The monkey swinging scene did it for me.

That is by far the worst scene in the movie

UnfairRepresent posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/7/9/AAZiH8AABCYH.jpg

Theyre great fun! But not great storytelling, lol. I love Indiana Jones and always will!

Total_Lost2 posted...

That is by far the worst scene in the movie

That was the peak of awfulness, yes. But that whole scene shortly thereafter with the truck jumping off a cliff, landing on a tree, and going over the waterfalls gave it a run for its money - that sequence looked back on ToD's airplane raft silliness and said 'hold my beer.' The only thing that saves it is that Indy's reactions are kinda funny.

Foppe posted...

The Ark only proves that something most likely unhuman created it.
When people dont understand, they say that God did it.

You could say that if God is omnipresent, he must be extraterrestrial. So we're back to aliens.

Just have the aliens be Nazis and the problem would have been solved.

UnfairRepresent posted...

The Ark doesn't prove God exists

in fact the implication is Indy and boobs would have died if they looked

it just proves something supernatural exists . Doom did the same thing and wasn't Christian

That's even more proof. You don't look directly at Jehovah or his mysterious workings...point in case: Lot's wife.

Perksurx posted...

You could say that if God is omnipresent, he must be extraterrestrial. So we're back to aliens.

Of course he is, how can he be terrestrial if he existed before Earth?

Foppe posted...

Of course he is, how can he be terrestrial if he existed before Earth?

So, that would make him terrestrial, extraterrestrial and non-terrestrial.

Is he God of all dimensions as well? Are we going to see a deleted scene from 4 where the crystal alien shouts "Oh! By the way... I'm God as well...it was me in that Ark in the first one!" before he gets sucked up into the sky?

He doesnt get sucked into the sky, he makes the planet move away.

I am writing without reading the posts yet, so excuse if this is already covered

But Indy, before 4, always dealt with supernatural stuff. A mystical Hebrew relic that summons ghosts to kill if you use it

A cult that uses magic to mind control and rip out hearts

A magic cup that can make you immortal.

And then.......aliens

It just doesn't fit thematically

One thing that I think gets overlooked on account of the aliens is the setting.

The original Indiana Jones movies felt like a natural extension of 1930s adventure stories -- pulp fiction novels, comics, and film serials. Their handling the new time period was essentially playing Elvis so that the audience got it was set in the 1950s. It didn't capture the spirit of the decade or its adventure stories. And the 1950s still had some pretty epic adventure stories.