Current Events > Dems finally get the messaging right.As they say fuck your student loan relief.

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cjsdowg
12/13/21 4:41:44 PM
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https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1470438857510465541

It can't be clearer than that what they feel about the people who put them into office.

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Doe
12/13/21 4:42:48 PM
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Isn't that a campaign promise broken?

Or is this just talking about halting interest on loans, not forgiving the principal?

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VigorouslySwish
12/13/21 4:42:52 PM
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what an enormous piece of shit

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The Popo
12/13/21 4:43:53 PM
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I can understand not just wiping out student loan principal as relief. But are student loans still ineligible for refinancing? If so, thats fucking idiotic and needs to change.

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VigorouslySwish
12/13/21 4:44:18 PM
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The Popo posted...
I can understand not just wiping out student loan relief. But are student loans still ineligible for refinancing? If so, thats fucking idiotic and needs to change.

Joe Biden is literally the reason that even exists

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thronedfire2
12/13/21 4:45:39 PM
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The Popo posted...
I can understand not just wiping out student loan principal as relief. But are student loans still ineligible for refinancing? If so, thats fucking idiotic and needs to change.

you've always(or at least the last 20 years) been able to refinance them. you can't get rid of them with bankruptcy though.

I doubt they can enforce the loan relief any longer since we're not in a state of "emergency", just like all the other relief programs expired

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The Catgirl Fondler
12/13/21 5:00:40 PM
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Dems being useless cowards?

Must be another day ending in "y".

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Smackems
12/13/21 5:02:07 PM
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Let's go Brandon

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BeantownHero
12/13/21 5:06:40 PM
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they're gonna get shelled in the midterms, take no lessons away from it, the gloom and doom about the prospect of another trump presidency in order to shame Democrats into support in 2024...and it's not gonna work

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VigorouslySwish
12/13/21 5:08:56 PM
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Trump will run to scam people but pull out at the last minute imo

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Southernfatman
12/13/21 5:11:33 PM
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It's like they try to lose elections and make people have less faith in them. Getting harder and harder not to believe that controlled opposition conspiracy.

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ZMythos
12/13/21 5:17:34 PM
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I've become convinced that we need to purge every politician older than 60.

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AablMind
12/13/21 5:17:51 PM
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  1. Convince people that XYZ is vital to improving their financial security
  2. Loan the people money so they can do XYZ, knowing there's a good chance they won't gain the financial security you implied
  3. Make defaulting difficult or impossible
  4. ???
  5. Soul-sucking profits


It's been the playbook for dealing with a lot of countries in the global South, and it's been turned on the American people

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Questionmarktarius
12/13/21 5:20:18 PM
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The Popo posted...
But are student loans still ineligible for refinancing?
Then, why do I get three or four letters a week asking me to do that?
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gmanthebest
12/13/21 5:20:54 PM
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Damn, guess people will have to pay back what they agreed to

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gatorsPENSbucs
12/13/21 5:26:17 PM
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Doe posted...
Isn't that a campaign promise broken?

I have no idea what any of his promises were but it seems like I keep seeing stuff about them being broken.

Hopefully one day people will realize neither side is good and its all just one big lie.

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Questionmarktarius
12/13/21 5:36:10 PM
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Looks like all that's actually happened is that Joe isn't extending the moratorium past january.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2021/12/13/
biden-administration-wont-extend-student-loan-relief-confirms-
student-loan-payments-restart-february-1/
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PatrickMahomes
12/13/21 5:37:21 PM
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i'm not totally in favor of 100% eliminating the loans, but there is absolutely more to it than "pay back what you borrowed plus 420% interest." it's too reductive. i absolutely feel bad for those who were swindled into their loans.

however, i absolutely do not feel bad for those who voted for biden/dems with the belief that they'd follow through on their promises. it's one thing not to know that a college loan is mostly bullshit when you're 18, but it's another thing entirely not to know that political promises are bullshit when you're 28.

and before anyone says it, since this is the bipartisan country in which we live, no, I did not vote for trump or anyone on the right and i have no substantive support for the right whatsoever

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cjsdowg
12/13/21 5:39:14 PM
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gmanthebest posted...
Damn, guess people will have to pay back what they agreed to

You can get out of most other debts .Your last president didn't it a number of times .

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Questionmarktarius
12/13/21 5:41:20 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
i'm not totally in favor of 100% eliminating the loans, but there is absolutely more to it than "pay back what you borrowed plus 420% interest." it's too reductive. i absolutely feel bad for those who were swindled into their loans.
An alleged "solution" in that twitter thread is to compel the schools themselves to have a stake in the loans, which is a solution that wasn't thought about for very long.
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gmanthebest
12/13/21 7:11:46 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
You can get out of most other debts .Your last president didn't it a number of times .
A. Spellcheck
B. I'm Canadian

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cjsdowg
12/13/21 7:16:07 PM
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gmanthebest posted...
A. Spellcheck
B. I'm Canadian

You are from Canada, a nation with a better system of this than America. And you want to throw in some stupid remarks about American students dealing with debt.

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Jagr_68
12/13/21 7:18:44 PM
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Doe posted...
Isn't that a campaign promise broken?

Or is this just talking about halting interest on loans, not forgiving the principal?

Backed off 50k forgiveness
Then backed off 10k forgiveness via EO
Now backed off the subject entirely

"Thanks for the votes and suck my dick, America!"

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gmanthebest
12/13/21 7:35:47 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
You are from Canada, a nation with a better system of this than America. And you want to throw in some stupid remarks about American students dealing with debt.
I'm just saying that if you don't wanna owe money, don't borrow it

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AzurexNightmare
12/13/21 7:38:24 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
You are from Canada, a nation with a better system of this than America. And you want to throw in some stupid remarks about American students dealing with debt.
Just block him. I know I will. You have to have a sad hurting life to come online and shit on random other people like that. Whatever is hurting them, they want to spread it to others.

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TheGoldenEel
12/13/21 7:38:45 PM
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Fuck Joe biden

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ElatedVenusaur
12/13/21 7:40:29 PM
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Joe Biden felt really bad about beating Donald Trump and hurting the Republican Party, so now he's doing his utmost to right the wrong he did and restore them to a trifecta.
Real inspiring stuff.

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gmanthebest
12/13/21 7:55:03 PM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
Just block him. I know I will. You have to have a sad hurting life to come online and shit on random other people like that. Whatever is hurting them, they want to spread it to others.
Sorry the truth hurts you so much.

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PesticideDream
12/13/21 8:15:36 PM
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I don't have any student loans but I'm still waiting on that $2000 stimulus check...
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lilORANG
12/13/21 8:17:23 PM
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PesticideDream posted...
I don't have any student loans but I'm still waiting on that $2000 stimulus check...

Same lol

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Gwynevere
12/13/21 8:26:56 PM
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gmanthebest posted...
I'm just saying that if you don't wanna owe money, don't borrow it
That's literally the only way if you want to get one of the ever increasing number of jobs that have degree requirements

Some people that want to do things like law, medical, physics, chemistry, biology, have no choice but to go to college

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MabusIncarnate
12/13/21 8:27:45 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
You are from Canada, a nation with a better system of this than America. And you want to throw in some stupid remarks about American students dealing with debt.
I'm no Biden fan, that said, he never promised anything. He said he would look into it when student loan forgiveness was brought up. He never said "I promise to cancel student debt" but in a lot of people's minds he apparently did.

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Dakimakura
12/13/21 8:28:41 PM
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alt right democrats

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CommonStar
12/13/21 8:28:51 PM
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So when can we agree that if Dems loses the coming elections, it's not anyone but their own damn fault?
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ZMythos
12/13/21 8:30:32 PM
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CommonStar posted...
So when can we agree that if Dems loses the coming elections, it's not anyone but their own damn fault?
Establishment dems are going to blame leftists for not falling in line like usual.

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TheGoldenEel
12/13/21 8:31:12 PM
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CommonStar posted...
So when can we agree that if Dems loses the coming elections, it's not anyone but their own damn fault?
This isnt any comfort

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Jagr_68
12/13/21 8:34:47 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
I'm no Biden fan, that said, he never promised anything. He said he would look into it when student loan forgiveness was brought up. He never said "I promise to cancel student debt" but in a lot of people's minds he apparently did.

No judgment because maybe you forgot last year during his campaign or maybe you missed it but he really did say he WOULD forgive10k per graduate around the time people were expecting the $1400 stimmies while LOOKING INTO a wider long term cancellation of near 50k which is what prompted Elizabeth Warren and Chuck Schumer to convince Joe to execute.

He lied.

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DD Divine
12/13/21 8:46:50 PM
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I have no problem paying it back just lower the interest rate please

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TheApexPredator
12/13/21 8:59:37 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
And you want to throw in some stupid remarks about American students dealing with debt.

They put themselves in debt. We have to draw the line on always bailing people out when life doesn't go their way.

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Trumble
12/13/21 9:01:21 PM
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ZMythos posted...
I've become convinced that we need to purge every politician older than 60.
This, along with removing the right to vote from everyone over 60. We've already accepted that an age limit at the lower end is justified, it's time to talk about one at the upper end too.

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cjsdowg
12/14/21 6:22:49 AM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
I'm no Biden fan, that said, he never promised anything. He said he would look into it when student loan forgiveness was brought up. He never said "I promise to cancel student debt" but in a lot of people's minds he apparently did.

Some people have brought up promises, but I am not even looking at that. I am just looking at the obtics of this. People are in a ad place and he is not extended this.. after posting things like this . How does this help the Dems at all. At this point the Dems can just say ... we are not crazy ass Republicans. And that is all that they have.

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Ving_Rhames
12/14/21 6:27:45 AM
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Fuck Joe Biden.

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tremain07
12/14/21 6:43:16 AM
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He did say nothing was really gonna change

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DezDroppedFreak
12/14/21 6:55:16 AM
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Nothing Will Fundamentally Change

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ElatedVenusaur
12/14/21 10:03:47 AM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
Nothing Will Fundamentally Change
Promise made, promise kept!

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LightHawKnight
12/14/21 10:06:45 AM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
Nothing Will Fundamentally Change

Eh better than actively making it worse like Republicans do.

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cjsdowg
12/14/21 4:52:04 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...


Eh better than actively making it worse like Republicans do.

So be happy we are being kicked in the gut and not in the pills.

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Giblet_Enjoyer
12/14/21 4:58:26 PM
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ZMythos posted...
I've become convinced that we need to purge every politician older than 60.
QFT.
Why people think it's a good idea to elect people who have NO STAKE IN THE FUTURE is a mystery to me

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Broseph_Stalin
12/14/21 5:00:23 PM
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Actually we put Biden in office for stuff like pandemic aid and infrastructure, not to pay off some dude's law degree.

This continuous trend of progressives getting dumpsteredin elections and then lecturing people on how to win them is getting really old.
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