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Gobstoppers12 12/14/21 12:24:24 PM #51:	Background_Guy posted... Yeah, the main difference between those two opinions is that what Guide posted is actually true lol Case in point. You brush off the negative news coverage about your own party because it's better not to focus on fringe cases and exceptions. All of the things I chose as examples have happened at least once. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:960907759] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote>Background_Guy posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, the main difference between those two opinions is that what Guide posted is actually true lol</quote>Case in point. You brush off the negative news coverage about your own party because it's better not to focus on fringe cases and exceptions. All of the things I chose as examples have happened at least once. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 12/14/21 12:25:25 PM #52:	Gobstoppers12 posted... At worst, it's an exaggeration of the truth, but none of those things are lies. No. Election fraud and "encouraging racism against white people" are flat out lies. They aren't exaggerations. They are fucking lies. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:960907796] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote> At worst, it's an exaggeration of the truth, but none of those things are lies. </quote> No. Election fraud and "encouraging racism against white people" are flat out lies. They aren't exaggerations. They are fucking lies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Compsognathus 12/14/21 12:26:35 PM #54:	Because it is like saying the a Galactic Republic and the Galactic Empire both have issues. It is a true statement. But if your response to the Death Star blowing up Alderaan is "the Republic also had issues" then you clearly aren't arguing in good faith. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:960907844] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote>Because it is like saying the a Galactic Republic and the Galactic Empire both have issues. It is a true statement. But if your response to the Death Star blowing up Alderaan is "the Republic also had issues" then you clearly aren't arguing in good faith. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 12/14/21 12:29:10 PM #55:	Heineken14 posted... No. Election fraud and "encouraging racism against white people" are flat out lies. They aren't exaggerations. They are fucking lies. I never said anything about election fraud. You're thinking of somebody else. And it's difficult to say that there's no encouragement of racism against white people when "white fragility" is one of the major buzzwords of the day. That's without touching on another phrase that's been making the rounds as well: "there is no such thing as white culture" Recently, a BLM-labeled website launched with the goal of "boycotting white owned businesses" Look, these aren't hills I'm willing to die on, but it's disingenuous to say that the notions don't exist. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:960907932] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite> <quote>No. Election fraud and "encouraging racism against white people" are flat out lies. They aren't exaggerations. They are fucking lies.</quote>I never said anything about election fraud. You're thinking of somebody else. And it's difficult to say that there's no encouragement of racism against white people when "white fragility" is one of the major buzzwords of the day. That's without touching on another phrase that's been making the rounds as well: "there is no such thing as white culture" Recently, a BLM-labeled website launched with the goal of "boycotting white owned businesses" Look, these aren't hills I'm willing to die on, but it's disingenuous to say that the notions don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 12/14/21 12:31:35 PM #56:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] The center of what. Also no I don't want to use alternate facts. Wasn't talking to you dude. Read the quote reference. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:960908005] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> The center of what. <quote>Also no I don't want to use alternate facts.</quote>Wasn't talking to you dude. Read the quote reference. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 12/14/21 12:32:03 PM #57:	Gobstoppers12 posted... I never said anything about election fraud. You're thinking of somebody else. Literally the person you quoted and I quoted again because you responded to him. Gobstoppers12 posted... And it's difficult to say that there's no encouragement of racism against white people No it isn't, because it's flat out not fucking true. Also, you're ignoring the part where the person you were responding to said ELECTING people who do that shit. BLM is barely even an organization, let alone elected officials. You're just proving this topic correct, in that while there are "issues" on "both sides" one is the clear and obvious choice for who is worse. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:960908023] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>I never said anything about election fraud. You're thinking of somebody else. </quote> Literally the person you quoted and I quoted again because you responded to him. Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>And it's difficult to say that there's no encouragement of racism against white people</quote> No it isn't, because it's flat out not fucking true. Also, you're ignoring the part where the person you were responding to said ELECTING people who do that shit. BLM is barely even an organization, let alone elected officials. You're just proving this topic correct, in that while there are "issues" on "both sides" one is the clear and obvious choice for who is worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 12/14/21 12:32:43 PM #58:	MrToothHasYou posted... Specifically, its a fallacy called false equivalence - both sides do have issues, but those issues are not equally bad and do not deserve equal criticism. LightHawKnight posted... When one side tried an insurrection and have not been punished and have been doing their utmost to destroy democracy, both sides doesnt cut it. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:960908064] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote>MrToothHasYou posted... </cite> <quote>Specifically, its a fallacy called false equivalence - both sides do have issues, but those issues are not equally bad and do not deserve equal criticism.</quote> LightHawKnight posted... </cite> <quote>When one side tried an insurrection and have not been punished and have been doing their utmost to destroy democracy, both sides doesnt cut it.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 12/14/21 12:37:55 PM #59:	Heineken14 posted... Also, you're ignoring the part where the person you were responding to said ELECTING people who do that shit. BLM is barely even an organization, let alone elected officials. You keep conflating what Guide said with what I said. He's referring to election fraud as one of the examples, and I'm not suggesting in any way that election fraud actually occurred. Just to be clear, so we're on the same page: *I do not believe there was any significant fraud in the 2020 election* Further, he's talking about elected officials, while I'm talking about the perception those on the right have of the average left-leaning voter. Not just elected officials. The examples I listed are not the kind I would use as the basis for my own argument, as I know they're mostly fringe cases and not official party platforms... but there is plenty of evidence that those things occur. A party is more than just the elected officials; the behavior of its voters reflects substantially on the party's reputation. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:960908240] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite> <quote>Also, you're ignoring the part where the person you were responding to said ELECTING people who do that shit. BLM is barely even an organization, let alone elected officials.</quote>You keep conflating what Guide said with what I said. He's referring to election fraud as one of the examples, and I'm not suggesting in any way that election fraud actually occurred. Just to be clear, so we're on the same page: I do not believe there was any significant fraud in the 2020 election Further, he's talking about elected officials, while I'm talking about the perception those on the right have of the average left-leaning voter. Not just elected officials. The examples I listed are not the kind I would use as the basis for my own argument, as I know they're mostly fringe cases and not official party platforms... but there is plenty of evidence that those things occur. A party is more than just the elected officials; the behavior of its voters reflects substantially on the party's reputation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 12/14/21 12:43:00 PM #61:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Why won't you tell me what you think a centrist is. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:960908438] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Why won't you tell me what you think a centrist is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__aCEr__ 12/14/21 12:50:29 PM #62:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality? --- See you next Wednesday. <cite>__aCEr__ posted [p:960908658] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/14/21 12:51:07 PM #64:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] In America a centrist is right wing seeing as the democrats are a right wing party add the republicans are a far right wing party. The center of that is a right wing person who is just less extreme than a republican. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:960908674] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> In America a centrist is right wing seeing as the democrats are a right wing party add the republicans are a far right wing party. The center of that is a right wing person who is just less extreme than a republican. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 12/14/21 12:52:38 PM #65:	Everyone on CE: "The left is 100% right, and the right is 100% wrong!" --- Ryzen 3700X \| Evga GTX 1070 Ti \| 16GB DDR4 3200 \| Crucial MX500 2TB <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:960908719] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote>Everyone on CE: "The left is 100% right, and the right is 100% wrong!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 12/14/21 2:58:43 PM #67:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] he's talking about internet centrism. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/8/AACDhFAACfES.jpg --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:960912471] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> he's talking about internet centrism. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/8/AACDhFAACfES.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
epik_fail1 12/14/21 3:32:25 PM #68:	monkmith posted... he's talking about internet centrism. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/8/AACDhFAACfES.jpg Honestly there's a reasons why some people stereotype the left despite me being definitely on the left as "Everyone who disagree with me is a nazi" and that meme is an excellent example of it. Believe it or not, some people can support Black lives matters and be against generalisation against every single cop that exists. Shocking I know. --- Dragaux for smash! <cite>epik_fail1 posted [p:960913454] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote> he's talking about internet centrism. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/8/AACDhFAACfES.jpg </quote> Honestly there's a reasons why some people stereotype the left despite me being definitely on the left as "Everyone who disagree with me is a nazi" and that meme is an excellent example of it. Believe it or not, some people can support Black lives matters and be against generalisation against every single cop that exists. Shocking I know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/14/21 6:11:35 PM #69:	monkmith posted... he's talking about internet centrism. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/8/AACDhFAACfES.jpg It should be pretty obvious from the pic that this is a far left wing talking point. --- I wish the real world would just stop hassling me. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:960917634] in Why is 'Bo... [t:79810087]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>he's talking about internet centrism. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/8/AACDhFAACfES.jpg</quote> It should be pretty obvious from the pic that this is a far left wing talking point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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