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TheHoldSteady
12/17/21 12:21:33 PM
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What's the excuse for a 2022 AAA game to not have voice acting and why does pokemon get away with it?

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TheGoldenEel
12/17/21 12:27:29 PM
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Just watched the most recent trailer and just lmfao

can you believe any other major company releasing a game that looks this bad as a full price $60 flagship game in a series

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Xavier_On_High
12/17/21 12:27:39 PM
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Meh, forcing games to have voice acting is what caused The Elder Scrolls and Fallout to decline in quality.

I'm fine with reading. Especially in RPGs

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Blue_Inigo
12/17/21 12:28:00 PM
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Ok

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ZevLoveDOOM
12/17/21 12:28:47 PM
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word, i wanted to hear Chris Pratt as Pikachu at least...
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Old NoiseTank
12/17/21 12:35:16 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Just watched the most recent trailer and just lmfao

can you believe any other major company releasing a game that looks this bad as a full price $60 flagship game in a series

and has a free mobile game that has voice acting in it, and it's actually good?

nintendrones still gonna slurp tho.

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Umbreon
12/17/21 1:04:48 PM
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Guys it's too hard to have voice acting in Pokemon

https://youtu.be/EJMuU9XGLvg

https://youtu.be/8T6dvEuV7hk

This is perfectly fine because we've never had voice acting in Pokemon before and we don't need it.

https://youtu.be/7pTFLxeg6tg

It's not like voices would improve the game in any way.

https://youtu.be/LEbLAFHo5Ts

https://youtu.be/OwzjXOPbz9Q

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Questionmarktarius
12/17/21 1:06:02 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
Meh, forcing games to have voice acting is what caused The Elder Scrolls and Fallout to decline in quality.
Skyrim Macho Man mod wouldn't be near as awesome without voice acting.
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Guide
12/17/21 1:06:34 PM
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They're finally doing something in the direction I've wanted them to take for fucking years.

This is less defending them and more "oh my god, they did something that isn't stale"

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Number090684
12/17/21 1:08:55 PM
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Jesus, fucking cheap ass Game Freak and The Pokemon Company. They absolutely refuse to get with the times and hire voice talent so they can turn as much of a profit as possible with their games. Yet they waste tons of money doing celebrity collabs. Makes no fucking sense. This is pretty much the perfect excuse to not support PLA until it receives a significant price drop, or maybe not even at all.
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refmon
12/17/21 1:11:31 PM
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Why put ANY work into a pokemon game when fans will just make excuses for them and buy literal dogshit?

It just makes sense

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Number090684
12/17/21 1:11:34 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
Meh, forcing games to have voice acting is what caused The Elder Scrolls and Fallout to decline in quality.

I'm fine with reading. Especially in RPGs

Not true. Besides you could just always mute voices in most games if you want to go back to that.
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Funkydog
12/17/21 1:12:54 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
Meh, forcing games to have voice acting is what caused The Elder Scrolls and Fallout to decline in quality.

I'm fine with reading. Especially in RPGs

Plenty of great RPGs have voice acting though. The reasons these games decline have very little to do with the voice acting, and more to poor direction, losing competent writers and less interest in creating a good narrative.

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Number090684
12/17/21 1:13:16 PM
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refmon posted...
Why put ANY work into a pokemon game when fans will just make excuses for them and buy literal dogshit?

It just makes sense

This is true. They won't stop halfassing until people literally stop buying games that support this bullshit anti consumer mentality, but kids' parents and casuals make the large majority of their sales, so that will never happen.
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Blue_Inigo
12/17/21 1:14:15 PM
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refmon posted...
Why put ANY work into a pokemon game when fans will just make excuses for them and buy literal dogshit?

It just makes sense
You'd have to be some kinda dumb to act like this new game doesn't have a ton of work put into it

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Njolk
12/17/21 1:14:30 PM
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I love when companies are experimental, and I like pokemon.

But Arceus looks like shit, I'm not planning on playing it

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Number090684
12/17/21 1:16:34 PM
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Njolk posted...
I love when companies are experimental, and I like pokemon.

But Arceus looks like shit, I'm not planning on playing it

It does, especially for a game about to release in a month. I tried to be optimistic, but it seems like they refuse to deliver on the bare minimum when it comes to modern quality.
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TheGoldenEel
12/17/21 1:17:42 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
You'd have to be some kinda dumb to act like this new game doesn't have a ton of work put into it
Have you seen literally every other game in the past year

do you understand what games are like in the current year

how the fuck can you look at what they are presenting here and say yeah, that looks good

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CM_Ponch
12/17/21 1:21:25 PM
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Piers singing will forever be the lowest point of the series, the fact that people defended it was even lower

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Xavier_On_High
12/17/21 1:25:14 PM
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Number090684 posted...
Not true. Besides you could just always mute voices in most games if you want to go back to that.

The point is that it draws resources, not that voice acting is inherently bad. Having the same vast amount of dialogue options as, say, Morrowind, is clearly not feasible in a fully voiced game. Hence Oblivion and Skyrim scaling it back. Companies don't have infinite resources for voice acting.

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PiOverlord
12/17/21 1:30:45 PM
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I disagree with the notion that VA is something a game needs to have.

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Number090684
12/17/21 1:38:32 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
I disagree with the notion that VA is something a game needs to have.

Games don't 100% NEED voice talent, but it has been accepted for decades now that AAA games should have voice talent because good voice acting helps make moments in games more expressive, impactful and memorable. For Pokemon, the biggest most profitable multimedia IP in the world to put out a anticipated new entry without voice acting is absurd to say the least.
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masterpug53
12/17/21 1:45:50 PM
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Eh...I've warmed to the concept of voice acting being a given nowadays, but Breath of the Wild showed that even in Current Year it can still be distractingly bad and unnecessary.

So I don't consider this to be an automatic negative. I don't have much of a frame of reference here - are there any other Pokemon games that have VA? - but my hunch is that any hypothetical VA work for this would be over-the-top to a grating degree.


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Hambo the Hog
12/17/21 1:47:36 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
I disagree with the notion that VA is something a game needs to have.
This is true in general. But the silence in Pokeymans is weird. I think it would benefit from at least having little grunts and "hey"s when a character starts talking like in 3d Zelda games. Having every line in a standard pokeyman game voiced would be agony though. There would be so much squeaky anime girl voice in it.

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creativerealms
12/17/21 1:48:06 PM
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I didn't expect any.

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neverwin
12/17/21 1:56:18 PM
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I really don't want voice acting in a pokemon game.

It's dialogue is mostly made up of Saturday morning cartoon schlock and I rather skip through the text as fast as possible.

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TheGoldenEel
12/17/21 2:20:31 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
Eh...I've warmed to the concept of voice acting being a given nowadays, but Breath of the Wild showed that even in Current Year it can still be distractingly bad and unnecessary.

So I don't consider this to be an automatic negative. I don't have much of a frame of reference here - are there any other Pokemon games that have VA? - but my hunch is that any hypothetical VA work for this would be over-the-top to a grating degree.
For me its not necessarily the lack of VA, but the fact that the entire game looks like low budget garbage. They didnt spend any money, anywhere, on this thing, let alone VA

its just emblematic of the whole game

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Srk700
12/17/21 2:33:20 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
Meh, forcing games to have voice acting is what caused The Elder Scrolls and Fallout to decline in quality.

I'm fine with reading. Especially in RPGs

Bioware games also gradually got worse when they put voice acting for the main character. Like it was fine in the 1st 3 Mass Effects, but I liked it better in games like KotoR, Jade Empire, and Dragon Age Origins where you had more options for your character to say rather than just a good/neutral/mean response in their later games.
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s0nicfan
12/17/21 2:34:49 PM
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Pokmon fans just needs to accept that game freak continues to make games explicitly targeted at young children and you're never going to get the game you really want because they're literally not making them for you.

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NeoShadowhen
12/17/21 2:41:09 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Pokmon fans just needs to accept that game freak continues to make games explicitly targeted at young children and you're never going to get the game you really want because they're literally not making them for you.

Exactly. My eight year old cant wait for it to come out. Thats the target audience.
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Smashingpmkns
12/17/21 2:43:42 PM
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Arceus looks like it's going to be the worst game in the series and I don't even care about the voice acting shit. It just looks bad.

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Kajagogo
12/17/21 2:44:32 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
Piers singing will forever be the lowest point of the series, the fact that people defended it was even lower

Your so close to those straws...keep grasping.

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Tyranthraxus
12/17/21 2:54:46 PM
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Please understand they're a small indie company.

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TheHoldSteady
12/17/21 3:24:41 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Pokmon fans just needs to accept that game freak continues to make games explicitly targeted at young children and you're never going to get the game you really want because they're literally not making them for you.

You wanna know a game that was made for children and has voice acting?

Barney's Hide and Seek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM_em824wh0

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