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Will_VIIII
12/20/21 12:55:07 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
They are in fact overloaded during flu season...
Prove it.

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 12:56:55 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
https://www.bidmc.org/about-bidmc/news/2021/03/ covid-19-higher-burden-compared-to-flu
Right so no one cared about the flu, double the deaths and severe illness due to flu and suddenly everyone cares. Covid isn't more than that, it is double flu, right? according to those numbers? You hear about flu season in passing in a news report once a year maybe, or on a morning show telling people to get their shots AT MOST, so double that is nationwide panic and the shut down of the entire country?

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Will_VIIII
12/20/21 12:57:52 PM
#53:


Very_Unreliable posted...
Right so no one cared about the flu, double the deaths and severe illness due to flu and suddenly everyone cares. Covid isn't more than that, it is double flu, right? according to those numbers? You hear about flu season in passing in a news report once a year maybe, or on a morning show telling people to get their shots AT MOST, so double that is nationwide panic and the shut down of the entire country?
Wow man you really do lack a basic understanding of numbers

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 12:58:53 PM
#54:


Will_VIIII posted...
Wow man you really do lack a basic understanding of numbers
You have only insulted you don't argue at all. You just insult. It doesn't bother me but it is kinda indicative of how fragile your argument is.

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DrizztLink
12/20/21 12:59:02 PM
#55:


Will_VIIII posted...
Wow man you really do lack a basic understanding of numbers
I'm feeling better and better about him telling me I'm incapable of debate.

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Will_VIIII
12/20/21 12:59:34 PM
#56:


Very_Unreliable posted...
You have only insulted you don't argue at all. You just insult. It doesn't bother me but it is kinda indicative of how fragile your argument is.
We can't have a reasonable or intelligent discussion with someone who rejects verifiable information and reality

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__aCEr__
12/20/21 12:59:50 PM
#57:


Nearly two years of this shit and we STILL have folks saying "it's just the flu."

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DrizztLink
12/20/21 1:00:06 PM
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We compared patients admitted to BIDMC with COVID-19 in spring 2020 to patients admitted to BIDMC with influenza during the last five flu seasons. We found that COVID-19 causes more severe disease and is more lethal than influenza.

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Heartomaton
12/20/21 1:01:04 PM
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Please don't feed the mouthbreathers.

You know they can't breath and eat at the same time.

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:01:36 PM
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@DrizztLink
Read like .... the rest of it, I know that's hard for you "fam" but keep going to the actual numbers.

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DrizztLink
12/20/21 1:02:52 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
@DrizztLink
Read like .... the rest of it, I know that's hard for you "fam" but keep going to the actual numbers.


The team found that, on average, 210 patients were admitted to BIDMC during each eight-month flu season, compared to the 582 patients with COVID-19 admitted in March and April 2020.

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:04:34 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
The team found that, on average, 210 patients were admitted to BIDMC during each eight-month flu season, compared to the 582 patients with COVID-19 admitted in March and April 2020.
you did it! beating your abysmal odds if we treat statistics as a prescriptive barrier.

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DrizztLink
12/20/21 1:05:16 PM
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You do realize that 210 people over 8 months is substantially less than 582 in two months?

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:06:16 PM
#64:


DrizztLink posted...
You do realize that 210 people over 8 months is substantially less than 582 in two months?
But it isn't because they've intentionally narrowed the collection dates in that article to make a point.

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DrizztLink
12/20/21 1:09:32 PM
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By all means, do elaborate.

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:13:25 PM
#66:


DrizztLink posted...
By all means, do elaborate.
What? If they go flu over 8 months is 210, and covid over 8 months is 620 is far less effective but we can go a step further, because we agree that covid numbers are seasonal, and that an actual flu season is not 8 months in reality... we could go "flu over 2 months is 210, covid is 580 over 2 months" so now we can quantify the risk compared to flu, but instead the article tries to avoid making any quantifying statements...That **** is very intentional, but since you guys are gonna be super hostile, I'm gonna leave you guys to it. Later.

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HylianFox
12/20/21 1:14:19 PM
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Again, you have to love how telling people to get vaccinated so they and their loved ones don't die is treated as a *bad* thing

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420TwiZtiD420
12/20/21 1:15:21 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
1. Incorrect
2. Severe Illness you recover from is still severe illness
First you agreed the WH claims you will die if unvaccinated. 2nd you switched goalposts to make it out like severe illness is death. It is not. Nice try.

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:15:32 PM
#69:


HylianFox posted...
Again, you have to love how telling people to get vaccinated so they and their loved ones don't die is treated as a *bad* thing
Treated as a bad thing by whom? It's not. Berating people and socially ostracizing them for not following your advice is what people do not like.

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DrizztLink
12/20/21 1:15:32 PM
#70:


Very_Unreliable posted...
What? If they go flu over 8 months is 210, and covid over 8 months is 620 is far less effective but we can go a step further, because we agree that covid numbers are seasonal, and that an actual flu season is not 8 months in reality... we could go "flu over 2 months is 210, covid is 580 over 2 months" so now we can quantify the risk compared to flu, but instead the article tries to avoid making any quantifying statements...That **** is very intentional, but since you guys are gonna be super hostile, I'm gonna leave you guys to it. Later.
So you spew some idiocy and pretend it's a mic drop.

Life must be great for the delusional.

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:16:31 PM
#71:


DrizztLink posted...
So you spew some idiocy and pretend it's a mic drop.

Life must be great for the delusional.
elaborate as to why it's idiocy "fam"

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DrizztLink
12/20/21 1:17:09 PM
#72:


I thought you were leaving.

And quit calling me fam.

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Humble_Novice
12/20/21 1:18:09 PM
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Biden's simply telling the honest truth. Either anti-vaxxers abandon their stupid beliefs or their chances of dying increase.
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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:19:06 PM
#74:


DrizztLink posted...
So you spew some idiocy and pretend it's a mic drop.

Life must be great for the delusional.
It wasn't a mic drop either. If you have an argument that isn't just insults, I'll listen. In fact I INVITE you to do that. The reality I'm painting wherein freedoms are eroded and people cheer them on, is not one I WISH on myself or anyone.

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HylianFox
12/20/21 1:20:14 PM
#75:


"But what about all the people who got Covid and then recovered? Checkmate, liberals!"

  1. There are still long-term effects that are not entirely clear
  2. Even if *you* recover, you're still spreading it around to other people who might not
  3. You can still get Covid even if you've already had it

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Will_VIIII
12/20/21 1:20:27 PM
#76:


Very_Unreliable posted...
freedoms are eroded
My freedom to drive drunk is eroded.

My body, my choice.

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:20:42 PM
#77:


DrizztLink posted...
I thought you were leaving.

And quit calling me fam.
Why don't you do me a favor then? Whatever preconceived notions you have of me, set them aside for a minute and come on discord or something so there's no moderation team with a bias and just EXPLAIN how you want to explain and allow me to rebut freely.

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:21:16 PM
#78:


HylianFox posted...
"But what about all the people who got Covid and then recovered? Checkmate, liberals!"

Stop building strawmen and argue with people who exist.

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BakonBitz
12/20/21 1:21:43 PM
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Very_Unreliable living up to their username, looks like.

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:22:21 PM
#80:


BakonBitz posted...
Very_Unreliable living up to their username, looks like.
Underrated epic post. mad upvotes incoming

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HylianFox
12/20/21 1:22:41 PM
#81:


oh yeah, and
4. Even if you recover you're still clogging up hospitals because you need to be treated for a preventable disease

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DrizztLink
12/20/21 1:23:00 PM
#82:


Very_Unreliable posted...
What? If they go flu over 8 months is 210, and covid over 8 months is 620 is far less effective but we can go a step further, because we agree that covid numbers are seasonal, and that an actual flu season is not 8 months in reality... we could go "flu over 2 months is 210, covid is 580 over 2 months" so now we can quantify the risk compared to flu, but instead the article tries to avoid making any quantifying statements...That **** is very intentional, but since you guys are gonna be super hostile, I'm gonna leave you guys to it. Later.


To compute volume of admissions between the two diseases, weekly counts of hospital admissions and mechanically ventilated patients were assessed during the peak two months of influenza seasons from 2014-2019 and from March-April 2020 for COVID-19.

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BakonBitz
12/20/21 1:23:26 PM
#83:


Very_Unreliable posted...
Underrated epic post. mad upvotes incoming
Weren't you leaving? Can't help yourself?

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ultimate reaver
12/20/21 1:23:31 PM
#84:


BakonBitz posted...
Very_Unreliable living up to their username, looks like.

as per usual

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:25:28 PM
#85:


I mean I've been pretty inoffensive, I don't even disagree that covid is an issue, I am only saying that people do embellish its severity and need to stop berating people for choosing not to vaccinate. I'm vaccinated, I don't wish ill or think badly of people who made a different choice. I don't think what I'm saying is controversial at all.

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DrizztLink
12/20/21 1:26:04 PM
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Ahem.

To compute volume of admissions between the two diseases, weekly counts of hospital admissions and mechanically ventilated patients were assessed during the peak two months of influenza seasons from 2014-2019 and from March-April 2020 for COVID-19.

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:27:21 PM
#87:


DrizztLink posted...
Ahem.
yes that adds nothing. What reply do you want? Wow that proves me wrong because they collected and presented data that suits their very targeted conclusion? Do you deny that statistics can be manipulated while remaining technically accurate?

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DrizztLink
12/20/21 1:28:13 PM
#88:


Very_Unreliable posted...
we could go "flu over 2 months is 210, covid is 580 over 2 months" so now we can quantify the risk compared to flu, but instead

To compute volume of admissions between the two diseases, weekly counts of hospital admissions and mechanically ventilated patients were assessed during the peak two months of influenza seasons from 2014-2019 and from March-April 2020 for COVID-19.

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BakonBitz
12/20/21 1:29:45 PM
#89:


When we've had people downplay Covid, not take it seriously, and as a result have it spread out of control...shouldn't be surprised if we're a little hostile.

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hockeybub89
12/20/21 1:30:44 PM
#90:


Very_Unreliable posted...
Well shutting down their businesses and allowing giant companies to conduct a giant theft of the middle class's wealth for a disease with a sub 1% mortality rate is a pretty good financial incentive to do as they bid.
Far less than 1% of people die in car accidents each, a lot less than COVID too. Guess we need to get rid of traffic laws and safety features.

Maybe we should start building with asbestos again too since not a lot of people are dying from it.

1% is millions of people. It's psychopathic to go "They're a sacrifice I'm willing to make". Apparently their freedom doesn't matter to all these freedom fighters.

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:30:59 PM
#91:


Once again nothing. Nothing was added to the discussion, hombre.

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masterpug53
12/20/21 1:32:36 PM
#92:


There's now a lot of missing posts in this topic for some strange reason.

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Will_VIIII
12/20/21 1:32:49 PM
#93:


Very_Unreliable posted...
Once again nothing. Nothing was added to the discussion, hombre.
Because it's not possible to have a reasonable or intelligent discussion with you

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DrizztLink
12/20/21 1:32:50 PM
#94:


So you legitimately just cannot read.

Been making a lot of projections on me in this topic, haven't you?

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:34:38 PM
#95:




DrizztLink posted...
So you legitimately just cannot read.

Been making a lot of projections on me in this topic, haven't you?

Such as?

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Slayer_22
12/20/21 1:34:53 PM
#96:


What a sick burn.

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DrizztLink
12/20/21 1:36:38 PM
#97:


Very_Unreliable posted...
@DrizztLink
Read like .... the rest of it, I know that's hard for you "fam" but keep going to the actual numbers.
So you can't read or manage your short term memory.

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Very_Unreliable
12/20/21 1:38:26 PM
#98:


DrizztLink posted...
So you can't read or manage your short term memory.
No se?

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Fade2black001
12/20/21 1:38:29 PM
#99:


So dems are cold heartless bastards in other words

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Will_VIIII
12/20/21 1:39:02 PM
#100:


Fade2black001 posted...
So dems are cold heartless bastards in other words
Should we feel bad when a drunk driver drives off a bridge into a river?

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