Current Events > Rand Paul cracked the code on how to steal elections

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Goldurn Dems out here stealing elections N shit

Muh stowen erection

Weird, that sounds like legitimate voting.

How to steal an election: make sure everyone votes

And conversely, how not to steal an election: make sure only people who will vote for you are allowed to vote

God, they're so beyond moustache twirling villainy

EmbraceOfDeath posted...

Weird, that sounds like legitimate voting.

No no it's only legit if it's good, upstanding white Republicans voting

lol what a fucking idiot

Spoken like an eye doctor

gunplagirl posted...

How to steal an election: make sure everyone votes

And conversely, how not to steal an election: make sure only people who will vote for you are allowed to vote

God, they're so beyond moustache twirling villainy

Hey!

Getting democrats to vote.

How devilish.

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ThyCorndog posted...

Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes

Heheheh.

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Or else.

Dems aren't that good unless they're facing Bernie Sanders or some other left wing candidate. Then they'll pull every trick in the book.

is that sarcasm or the guy didn't understand the irony?
i know nothing about the guy.

Ricemills posted...

is that sarcasm or the guy didn't understand the irony?
i know nothing about the guy.

this the dude that thinks the government shouldn't help people during natural disasters, but then demanded aid when his own state was hit by a tornado

ThyCorndog posted...

this the dude that thinks the government shouldn't help people during natural disasters, but then demanded aid when his own state was hit by a tornado

No no no

Pretty sure he wanted to know how the states were going to pay for the help

When his state receives more money from the federal government than his state gives, anyways

So to cheat you have to win legally?

I read the article attached to his tweet and it just seemed like the complaint was there was more effort and money put into getting absentee ballots to Democrat areas than Republican ones

This is a valid complaint if the government is doing the distribution regardless of if the Rep party was preaching against it

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

I read the article attached to his tweet and it just seemed like the complaint was there was more effort and money put into getting absentee ballots to Democrat areas than Republican ones

This is a valid complaint if the government is doing the distribution regardless of if the Rep party was preaching against it

They are being sent where they are being requested.

creativerealms posted...

They are being sent where they are being requested.

I'm just glance reading the article but it seems there was a lot of confusion around the ballots and the drop off locations heavily favored Dem areas(?)

So more money was spent on educating and collecting from those areas

Then something something Zuckerberg

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-wisconsin-purchase/

That's the article if anyone is curious. Its a lot more words than a tweet, but that doesn't mean it cant be as stupid as the tweet

"Harvesting" is the problem.
Unless the ballots are sealed and unreadable somehow, the van going door to door collecting ballots is a huge security hole.

Questionmarktarius posted...

"Harvesting" is the problem.
Unless the ballots are sealed and unreadable somehow, the van going door to door collecting ballots is a huge security hole.

And we know that election fraud exists because MAGAts keep getting fucking arrested for it.

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

I'm just glance reading the article but it seems there was a lot of confusion around the ballots and the drop off locations heavily favored Dem areas(?)

So more money was spent on educating and collecting from those areas

Then something something Zuckerberg

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-wisconsin-purchase/

That's the article if anyone is curious. Its a lot more words than a tweet, but that doesn't mean it cant be as stupid as the tweet

You do realize republicans hate dropoff boxes and mail in voting right? In Texas they even limited them to the point where you had to drive hundreds of miles to reach a dropoff box.

seems pretty logical. if you aren't willing to cast your vote in person, you clearly don't care enough to vote, and people who don't care shouldn't vote

I truly love that no one over at GOP headquarters has thought, "Hey, maybe WE should flood heavy Republican areas with absentee ballots and encourage them to vote!"

Derwood posted...

I truly love that no one over at GOP headquarters has thought, "Hey, maybe WE should flood heavy Republican areas with absentee ballots and encourage them to vote!"

Cause those people are already voting. Preventing mail in voting hurts Democrats more. Though it also shoots their foot cause they do have elderly voters that require voting by mail.

Derwood posted...

I truly love that no one over at GOP headquarters has thought, "Hey, maybe WE should flood heavy Republican areas with absentee ballots and encourage them to vote!"

Good look getting ballot harvesters to do that.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Good look getting ballot harvesters to do that.
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So they don't get the postal service out there?

And if you're about to pull that "untrustworthy" shit your information is god-awful.

the GOP's tactic here is to keep this idea of election fraud around in the back of their base's mind until 2024. then, when they lose (again), they'll claim fraud (again) and hope their redneck, wannabe military LARPing base storms the capital again. these people are not interested in democracy at all, they want to retain power by any means possible.

LightHawKnight posted...

You do realize republicans hate dropoff boxes and mail in voting right? In Texas they even limited them to the point where you had to drive hundreds of miles to reach a dropoff box.

Doesn't matter. The government should have parity. Seems like Wisc and Texas are the opposite ends of the same issue

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Doesn't matter. The government should have parity. Seems like Wisc and Texas are the opposite ends of the same issue

It does matter. You act as if the federal government has all the power. The state has far more power for stuff like this. If a state doesn't want to do it, they wont.

LightHawKnight posted...

If a state doesn't want to do it, they wont.

States aren't even obligated to have a popular vote for president.

hsvhighlife posted...

seems pretty logical. if you aren't willing to cast your vote in person, you clearly don't care enough to vote, and people who don't care shouldn't vote

I don't live in a Republican area and I have to work for a living so I don't have the time or luxury to wait in line for hours to vote in person.
Maybe it's time we make the day a federal holiday to ensure everyone who want to vote in person can do so but no, the most overworked western country can't have any more public holidays even if they happen only once every 2 or 4 years.

LightHawKnight posted...

It does matter. You act as if the federal government has all the power. The state has far more power for stuff like this. If a state doesn't want to do it, they wont.

It does matter realistically, but it shouldnt matter in the philosophy of what the government should be providing. Its a failure of governing for this to happen one way or the other.

I havent even considered the Federal government for any of this honestly

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

It does matter realistically, but it shouldnt matter in the philosophy of what the government should be providing. Its a failure of governing for this to happen one way or the other.

I havent even considered the Federal government for any of this honestly

They are providing it. Not their fault Republican controlled areas dont want it. Republicans are the party of more voter restrictions and less people getting to vote, cause they know Democrats will win more if everyone votes.

DrizztLink posted...

So they don't get the postal service out there?

if only a certain president didn't try to sabotage the postal service...

__starsnostars posted...

I don't live in a Republican area and I have to work for a living so I don't have the time or luxury to wait in line for hours to vote in person.
Maybe it's time we make the day a federal holiday to ensure everyone who want to vote in person can do so but no, the most overworked western country can't have any more public holidays even if they happen only once every 2 or 4 years.

The problem here is, everyone would be able to vote then.

The goal by not making it a holiday is to prevent the poor working class from being able to vote.

LightHawKnight posted...

They are providing it. Not their fault Republican controlled areas dont want it. Republicans are the party of more voter restrictions and less people getting to vote, cause they know Democrats will win more if everyone votes.

Well, as you mentioned before, its the state powers working against the philosophical merits of an equitable government. Both ways are bad and are intended to be that way.

Red states make the one way to vote harder and alienate voters, which isnt cool

Blue states make the one way easier while simultaneously alienating another group as one group is getting resources to vote more while the other doesnt have the resources, which isnt cool

The middle is having more avenues to vote while simultaneously getting all sides educated on the processes to ensure parity of votes

While it may be true the the blue peeps out number the red, it shouldn't matter. What matters is everyone gets an equal shot, which isnt happening on either side

(Avoiding the argument of if everyone -should- vote because this is an argument for if everyone -can- vote)

Ricemills posted...

if only a certain president didn't try to sabotage the postal service...

"Try" being the operative word.

LightHawKnight posted...

It does matter. You act as if the federal government has all the power. The state has far more power for stuff like this. If a state doesn't want to do it, they wont.

Which is why there shouldn't be different laws in each state. We BADLY need a federal voting standard that applies across all fifty states

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Well, as you mentioned before, its the state powers working against the philosophical merits of an equitable government. Both ways are bad and are intended to be that way.

Red states make the one way to vote harder and alienate voters, which isnt cool

Blue states make the one way easier while simultaneously alienating another group as one group is getting resources to vote more while the other doesnt have the resources, which isnt cool

Democrats would have been perfectly happy sending the at request mail-in ballots to anybody that asked for them and they actively encouraged drop boxes everywhere.

It is not a failure of the Democratic party that Republicans turned a perfectly normal, routine function of our voting process into a partisan issue, then went out of their way to sabotage that function every opportunity they got.

If Republicans flat out refuse to request mail-in ballots and flat out refuse to use drop boxes because theyve been brainwashed into viewing it as a liberal conspiracy to bring about communism, thats on fucking them. Nobody else. Nobody had any issues with mail in ballots for years until the MAGAts decided it was a big deal. In fact, before the last election, Republicans were the majority of mail-in ballot requests. They have themselves to blame for this. Period.

buddhamonster posted...

They have themselves to blame for this.

This is probably the only piece worth responding to as it sums up what you said, which doesn't havent anything to really say about what I said

The allocation of resources used to get equitable voting shouldn't be done along party lines or advantages by the government.

It's not corrrct to make a new way to vote (for most)and then allocate resources to educate and assist the populations that noticeably advantage one party more than the other

Same is true in the reverse, you cant knee cap the usual way to vote and not address the inequitable scenario that results

Same issue, different parties, different ways of doing it

__starsnostars posted...

I don't live in a Republican area and I have to work for a living so I don't have the time or luxury to wait in line for hours to vote in person.
Maybe it's time we make the day a federal holiday to ensure everyone who want to vote in person can do so but no, the most overworked western country can't have any more public holidays even if they happen only once every 2 or 4 years.

Take a page out of New Zealand's book and give people a couple of weeks of voting time instead of just one day.

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

The allocation of resources used to get equitable voting shouldn't be done along party lines or advantages by the government.

If I say, "We're going to have a feast tonight, there's going to be chicken and beef and salads and everything you could want, just put in the request and it's yours", and your response is, "fuck off, chicken is a communistic ploy to destroy America and steal the election, and even though the last feast I was perfectly fine with chicken being an option, and in fact ordered it myself, this time around I'm going to do everything in my power to permanently remove chicken from the menu solely because I want to hurt YOUR decision making!", that's not an unequitable distribution of resources by the Democrats.

That's Republicans drinking too much of their cult leaders kool-aid, and throwing a fucking hissy fit over the other side actively trying to be as accommodating as possible to everyone during a global pandemic.

buddhamonster posted...

If I say, "We're going to have a feast tonight, there's going to be chicken and beef and salads and everything you could want, just put in the request and it's yours", and your response is, "fuck off, chicken is a communistic ploy to destroy America and steal the election, and even though the last feast I was perfectly fine with chicken being an option, and in fact ordered it myself, this time around I'm going to do everything in my power to permanently remove chicken from the menu solely because I want to hurt YOUR decision making!", that's not an unequitable distribution of resources by the Democrats.

That's Republicans drinking too much of their cult leaders kool-aid, and throwing a fucking hissy fit over the other side actively trying to be as accommodating as possible to everyone during a global pandemic.

You can't be sure if everyone's individual beliefs and such. You give x amount of resource and effort to everyone evenly as you can in this scenario as the government. To not do so is favoritism regardless of if the resources is getting utilized

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Unsugarized_Foo posted...

You can't be sure if everyone's individual beliefs and such. You give x amount of resource and effort to everyone evenly as you can in this scenario as the government. To not do so is favoritism regardless of if the resources is getting utilized

Right, I did that when I said, "we're having a feast.... you can eat whatever you want, just put in the request and it's yours".

If the other side then outright REFUSES to even CONSIDER certain menu options because they want to hurt MY DECISION MAKING, that's not me unevenly distributing resources. That's them shooting themselves in the foot because their dumbass cult leader told them to.

buddhamonster posted...

Right, I did that when I said, "we're having a feast.... you can eat whatever you want, just put in the request and it's yours".

If the other side then outright REFUSES to even CONSIDER certain menu options because they want to hurt MY DECISION MAKING, that's not me unevenly distributing resources. That's them shooting themselves in the foot because their dumbass cult leader told them to.

That's not what is happening*. The feast isnt being targeted to everyone

*per the article that is