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smoke_break
01/02/22 4:02:01 PM
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Her name was Marion Stokes.

In a storage unit somewhere in Philadelphia, 140,000 VHS tapes sit packed into four shipping containers. Most are hand-labeled with a date between 1977 and 2012, and if you pop one into a VCR you might see scenes from the Iranian Hostage Crisis, the Reagan Administration, or Hurricane Katrina.

Its 35 years of history through the lens of TV news, captured on a dwindling format.

Its also the life work of Marion Stokes, who built an archive of network, local, and cable news, in her home, one tape at a time, recording every major (and trivial) news event until the day she died in 2012 at the age of 83 of lung disease

Stokes was a former librarian who for two years co-produced a local television show with her then-future husband, John Stokes Jr. She also was engaged in civil rights issues, helping organize buses to the 1963 civil rights march on Washington, among other efforts. She began casually recording television in 1977. She taped lots of things, but she thought news was especially important, and when cable transformed it into a 24-hour affair, she began recording MSNBC, Fox, CNN, CNBC, and CSPAN around the clock by running as many as eight television recorders at a time.

Shed feed a six-hour tape into the recorders late at night. Shed wake up early the next day to change them (or conscript family members to do the same if she wasnt home). Shed cut short meals at restaurants to rush home before tapes ended. And when she got too old to keep up, she trained a younger helper named Frank to run the various recording equipment.

But the majority of her days were structured around paying attention to and saving whatever was on the news. Pretty much everything else took a back seat, says her son, Michael Metelits. It provided a certain rhythm to her life, and a certain amount of deep, deep conviction that this stuff was going to be useful. That somehow, someone would find a way to index it, archive it, store itthat it would be useful.

https://www.fastcompany.com/3022022/the-incredible-story-of-marion-stokes-who-single-handedly-taped-35-years-of-tv-news

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It's impressive but unsettling at the same time, what an obsession to have.

A documentary was made about her too, although I haven't watched it yet:
https://youtu.be/DJNUdz6wQ3w

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Criminalt
01/02/22 4:16:24 PM
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I once had the idea to to save a newspaper from every day of my life, to be my own time capsule of national and world events. It lasted about three weeks before I realised I needed the space for something else.

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Zikten
01/02/22 4:19:36 PM
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Criminalt posted...
I once had the idea to to save a newspaper from every day of my life, to be my own time capsule of national and world events. It lasted about three weeks before I realised I needed the space for something else.

Yea. My grandpa had a shed behind his house that was full of stacks newspapers. I dont know how long he kept it up but I did look once and saw a paper from during ww2
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Ratchetrockon
01/02/22 4:21:36 PM
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Pretty cool.

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Medussa
01/02/22 4:25:38 PM
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i honestly wish that networks would have an archive of their live broadcasts available somewhere. radio stations, too. lost media is incredibly depressing to me.

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Vanilla
01/02/22 4:25:50 PM
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Criminalt posted...
I once had the idea to to save a newspaper from every day of my life, to be my own time capsule of national and world events. It lasted about three weeks before I realised I needed the space for something else.
You could try a digest publication like The Week. They hit on all the big stuff and it would take up way less space

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Guide
01/02/22 4:27:19 PM
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I have such intense respect for this person. Like, viscerally. Archival at that level is insane.

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smoke_break
01/02/22 4:29:16 PM
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Criminalt posted...
I once had the idea to to save a newspaper from every day of my life, to be my own time capsule of national and world events. It lasted about three weeks before I realised I needed the space for something else.
Yeah, you'd need a lot of space for a paper every day. I think one a month would be manageable though.

Zikten posted...
Yea. My grandpa had a shed behind his house that was full of stacks newspapers. I dont know how long he kept it up but I did look once and saw a paper from during ww2
That is awesome, would've been interesting to flip through that.


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TendoDRM
01/02/22 4:34:28 PM
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Ah, that's much cooler. From the title I thought she had used these tapes for recording her soaps or American Idol.

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Robot2600
01/02/22 4:39:14 PM
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Wow, that's amazing.

Well, into the dumpster wiv it!

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Ivynn
01/02/22 4:42:23 PM
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Medussa posted...
i honestly wish that networks would have an archive of their live broadcasts available somewhere. radio stations, too. lost media is incredibly depressing to me.

They usually do now.

But in the early days of film and television, yeah, so many treasures lost because people then didn't think they were valuable.

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Shablagoo
01/02/22 4:44:26 PM
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Ive heard of Marion before. Regardless of whatever judgments some might make, Im very grateful for her work.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
01/02/22 4:45:56 PM
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I saved a bunch of 9/11 newspaper. As in the day of.

My teacher said they would be worth a lot someday.
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Derwood
01/02/22 4:46:45 PM
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Imagine if she had invested that money into a Roth IRA
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Sworth
01/02/22 4:48:17 PM
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Poor lady... I guess no one ever told her VHS only last 15 years in normal storage and 25 in sealed temperature controlled environments...

Or that those 6 hour tapes don't last as long...
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Sworth
01/02/22 4:49:32 PM
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Maybe she'll get lucky and some rich donar will pay to convert her collection before the entire thing is useless.
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Medussa
01/02/22 4:54:11 PM
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Ivynn posted...
They usually do now.

But in the early days of film and television, yeah, so many treasures lost because people then didn't think they were valuable.

i think they keep them, but i don't think people have much access.

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Guide
01/02/22 5:00:41 PM
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Medussa posted...
i think they keep them, but i don't think people have much access.

They try to keep them now, if they happen to have had them lying around anyway, but there's a massive gap in media archival from studios just throwing out everything they couldn't see an immediate use for, after production was done.

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Medussa
01/02/22 5:03:05 PM
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Guide posted...
but there's a massive gap in media archival from studios just throwing out everything they couldn't see an immediate use for

even since the 60s? that's unfortunate

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SiO4
01/02/22 5:03:37 PM
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Interesting way to flex your VCR Programming Skills.
~I think she won this one.

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smoke_break
01/02/22 5:08:57 PM
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Derwood posted...
Imagine if she had invested that money into a Roth IRA
She invested in Apple instead, bought stock when it was just $7.

Sworth posted...
Poor lady... I guess no one ever told her VHS only last 15 years in normal storage and 25 in sealed temperature controlled environments...

Or that those 6 hour tapes don't last as long...
They can last much longer than that if you don't watch them frequently. I have tapes from the 80s that play fine and the picture looks great.

Sworth posted...
Maybe she'll get lucky and some rich donar will pay to convert her collection before the entire thing is useless.
I believe someone is working on uploading her collection to archive.org.

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SiO4
01/02/22 5:11:52 PM
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smoke_break posted...
I have tapes from the 80s that play fine and the picture looks great.


Sounds porn related.

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Guide
01/02/22 5:20:40 PM
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Medussa posted...
even since the 60s? that's unfortunate

Even going up to the 90s. I think that's why no one can find good quality copies of Calamity Jane.

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smoke_break
01/04/22 1:50:21 PM
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She should be that sub's banner picture, lol.

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LadyxKiller
01/04/22 1:51:54 PM
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This bitch was crazy. She'd be at dinner and she'd be like OH MY TAPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the fuck. Seriously.

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Omnislasher
01/04/22 1:52:50 PM
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mental illness :(
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eston
01/04/22 1:56:53 PM
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I can't help but wonder how much of her life she missed out on just because everything had to revolve around those tapes

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Damn_Underscore
01/04/22 2:02:35 PM
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VHS tapes deteriorate. Someone should digitize those

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Xavier_On_High
01/04/22 2:18:43 PM
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Genuinely impressive. She found a purpose and stuck to it. More than most of us can say.

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LadyxKiller
01/04/22 2:22:27 PM
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Sworth posted...
Poor lady... I guess no one ever told her VHS only last 15 years in normal storage and 25 in sealed temperature controlled environments...

Or that those 6 hour tapes don't last as long...
I really doubt that everyone's VHS tapes from 15 years ago don't work anymore.

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--Zero-
01/04/22 2:23:40 PM
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Hopefully they get digitized for long term media archives. It'll be interesting to go back and watch some of the tapes from 9/11.

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Dakimakura
01/04/22 2:25:19 PM
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when hoarding is socially acceptable

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CommonGrackle
01/04/22 2:30:15 PM
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what a waste of time
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GiftedACIII
01/05/22 8:04:45 PM
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Seems like it'll be interesting for historical preservation in the future.

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smoke_break
01/05/22 8:24:28 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Seems like it'll be interesting for historical preservation in the future.
Someone needs to hurry and digitize them though.

I believe a team was doing it pre-pandemic but who knows the status of the project now. I just hope the tapes aren't forgotten.

A bunch of old tapes in worn cardboard boxes can easily be presumed garbage and thrown away by someone that needs the warehouse space.

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Lordgold666
01/05/22 8:26:08 PM
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Guide posted...
I have such intense respect for this person. Like, viscerally. Archival at that level is insane.


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MI4 REAL
01/05/22 8:27:13 PM
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Hey, lets tape over the original moon landing!

It's fake conspirators:

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MI4 REAL
01/05/22 8:27:44 PM
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Because fuck history rite?

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GiftedACIII
01/06/22 4:53:04 PM
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smoke_break posted...
Someone needs to hurry and digitize them though.

I believe a team was doing it pre-pandemic but who knows the status of the project now. I just hope the tapes aren't forgotten.

A bunch of old tapes in worn cardboard boxes can easily be presumed garbage and thrown away by someone that needs the warehouse space.

Agreed. Imagine if some future historians found these tapes but nothing worked. Makes me wonder if there has been stuff like that in ancient civilizations.

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JimmyFraska
01/06/22 5:00:05 PM
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That's awesome. If her family could find a way to start uploading those as a public resource, what a great service she did if so
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MarveI
01/06/22 5:18:09 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
I saved a bunch of 9/11 newspaper. As in the day of.

My teacher said they would be worth a lot someday.
She lied

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Sworth
01/07/22 4:36:51 PM
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MarveI posted...
She lied
If you sealed them away from air they really will be.

If you didn't seal them they are just compost.
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