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Boxing >>>>>> karate

I'd pay to watch you beat up Demetri.

ThePrinceFish posted...

I'd pay to watch you beat up Demetri.

hed get clapped.

also every single one of larussos students would get clapped the easiest because theyre focused on defense and karate defense is pure shit against boxing

I think Hawk would give you the business tbh.

smoke_break posted...

I think Hawk would give you the business tbh.

hed get bodied

Lmao boxing is the most one dimensional of martial arts. Thats why they always get owned.

Peyton List can solo me

When I use to do mma in the Marines. Boxers were the easiest to take. They always severely limit their options. The easiest way to beat a boxer is rush them with lots of attacks to the groin, knees, and shins. Head Butts and grapples are also particularly effective. The trick to easily beating a boxer is never give them a inch. They "need" the space to think and react. They aren't good at dealing with very close contact and chaos.

smoke_break posted...

I think Hawk would give you the business tbh.

No joke I got hyped as fuck when at the end of the new season he jumped up onto the mat to fight Kyler and the hawk screeched

Those that care I did Muay Thai Kickboxing and Krav Maga. (Obviously also MCMAPs but every Marine is trained in that)

I probably would've solo'd entire cast of Predator

Capoeira >>>>>> Machine guns

Sworth posted...

Those that care I did Muay Thai Kickboxing and Krav Maga. (Obviously also MCMAPs but every Marine is trained in that)

Thinking about muay thai myself. I just want a six pack. But i genuinely have an interest in it.

SauI_Goodman posted...

Thinking about muay thai myself. I just want a six pack. But i genuinely have an interest in it.

If you can try to find a trainer that is not licensed/American. USA regulates it down to a joke here, and they remove over half of it for being to deadly.

Yeah.... no.... as someone who has practiced martial arts at least half my life, Boxing shouldn't beat Karate. Boxing requires you to be upright to gain punching power as your using your full body as momentum to power your swing. Boxers don't tend to focus on the lower body, so the moment that an actual Karate practitioner sweeps the leg and has you on the ground, its over.

Don't get me wrong, it wouldn't be an easy fight, and the more experienced boxer will probably win, but most mid belt martial artists should be able to take out a boxer if they can get them on the ground.

Also, most martial artists train without gear, only using it for combat tournaments. So unless a boxer brings tape and gloves with him, he's finished before the fight even begins.

I managed to get a 2nd dan in TKD. Probably going to take Karate when I finish college, as other than Kenpo and TKD that's the only thing that is being taught where I live.

Ivany2008 posted...

Yeah.... no.... as someone who has practiced martial arts at least half my life, Boxing shouldn't beat Karate. Boxing requires you to be upright to gain punching power as your using your full body as momentum to power your swing. Boxers don't tend to focus on the lower body, so the moment that an actual Karate practitioner sweeps the leg and has you on the ground, its over.

Don't get me wrong, it wouldn't be an easy fight, and the more experienced boxer will probably win, but most mid belt martial artists should be able to take out a boxer if they can get them on the ground.

Also, most martial artists train without gear, only using it for combat tournaments. So unless a boxer brings tape and gloves with him, he's finished before the fight even begins.

I managed to get a 2nd dan in TKD. Probably going to take Karate when I finish college, as other than Kenpo and TKD that's the only thing that is being taught where I live.

you dont know shit about boxing

Arent you 411? Every single one of those guys would kick your ass

Robby and miguel would rekt

TC getting solo'd by the entire cast of Gamefaqs

gna647 posted...

you dont know shit about boxing

I know quite a bit actually.... since a vague form of boxing is taught in literally every single martial art to ever exist. Obviously we don't go into the finer details taught in training, but I do know that a punch gains momentum based on your stance, breathing, and the flow of your punches. That's white belt 101. I know that boxing focuses on speed, momentum and avoidance to be effective.

The general defensive stance of boxing only covers the upper body since that's the only area allowed to be hit in boxing, while in most general martial arts they go with a 45 degree lower fist/hand, 15-20 degree upper guard to cover the neck, head and chest. Boxing is also bound by certain rules that aren't used in other sports. In general martial arts, anything goes. Literally anything. The first thing we are taught in Tae Kwon Do is that if we can't avoid fighting to attack the weak points first before resorting to martial arts. Meaning, we slap the ears, palm strike the nose, knuckle strike the throat, and yes, low kick the groin.

Don't get it twisted. No martial artist would go out of their way to fight some of the great boxing legends in their prime. But there is a reason that Mayweather has never stepped foot in an octagon. Once a striker regardless of study is on the ground, they are more prone to submissions and they can't build momentum to strike properly/powerfully, and that it only takes 7 lbs of pressure to dislocate a joint.

And in a real fight, its about who strikes first and how they strike. If a boxer hits me first chances are I'm down for the count. But if I see him coming, there are dozens of things that I can do at my level to prevent him from winning. Some of them are extremely dirty, but anyone who has practiced martial arts will tell you that rules don't matter in an actual fight.

Based on the arrogance you've displayed (which I don't know if its a comedy bit or not), I'm pretty sure I could take you.

And I don't fight.

Ivany2008 posted...

I know quite a bit actually.... since a vague form of boxing is taught in literally every single martial art to ever exist. Obviously we don't go into the finer details taught in training, but I do know that a punch gains momentum based on your stance, breathing, and the flow of your punches. That's white belt 101. I know that boxing focuses on speed, momentum and avoidance to be effective.

The general defensive stance of boxing only covers the upper body since that's the only area allowed to be hit in boxing, while in most general martial arts they go with a 45 degree lower fist/hand, 15-20 degree upper guard to cover the neck, head and chest. Boxing is also bound by certain rules that aren't used in other sports. In general martial arts, anything goes. Literally anything. The first thing we are taught in Tae Kwon Do is that if we can't avoid fighting to attack the weak points first before resorting to martial arts. Meaning, we slap the ears, palm strike the nose, knuckle strike the throat, and yes, low kick the groin.

Don't get it twisted. No martial artist would go out of their way to fight some of the great boxing legends in their prime. But there is a reason that Mayweather has never stepped foot in an octagon. Once a striker regardless of study is on the ground, they are more prone to submissions and they can't build momentum to strike properly/powerfully, and that it only takes 7 lbs of pressure to dislocate a joint.

And in a real fight, its about who strikes first and how they strike. If a boxer hits me first chances are I'm down for the count. But if I see him coming, there are dozens of things that I can do at my level to prevent him from winning. Some of them are extremely dirty, but anyone who has practiced martial arts will tell you that rules don't matter in an actual fight.

wow you really dont know shit about boxing

Eww, boxing.

gna647 posted...

wow you really dont know shit about boxing

Then teach me oh great sage.... I'm waiting....

gna647 posted...

Boxing >>>>>> karate

What's your strategy for when they sweep your legs?

Ivany2008 posted...

Yeah.... no.... as someone who has practiced martial arts at least half my life, Boxing shouldn't beat Karate. Boxing requires you to be upright to gain punching power as your using your full body as momentum to power your swing. Boxers don't tend to focus on the lower body, so the moment that an actual Karate practitioner sweeps the leg and has you on the ground, its over.

Don't get me wrong, it wouldn't be an easy fight, and the more experienced boxer will probably win, but most mid belt martial artists should be able to take out a boxer if they can get them on the ground.

Also, most martial artists train without gear, only using it for combat tournaments. So unless a boxer brings tape and gloves with him, he's finished before the fight even begins.

I managed to get a 2nd dan in TKD. Probably going to take Karate when I finish college, as other than Kenpo and TKD that's the only thing that is being taught where I live.

I only trained in Karate and Boxing for one year each but Karate seemed like complete bullshit to me. All of the movements are too rigid and the karate stance is kind of a joke imo. Youre right about boxers having the weakness of not being able to deal with kicks or being on the ground, but their footwork and punches are way better than what youll learn doing Karate. The conditioning and drills that boxers do are more intense than pretty much every martial art other than Muay Thai. Id rather being an expert boxer than a black belt in Karate

FortuneCookie posted...

What's your strategy for when they sweep your legs?

Obviously, he'll fall over, tell them they don't know shit about boxing and then walk away, clearly the winner.

TC would NOT have the gumption to post this if Pat Morita were still alive.

Mr. Miyagi would have made you punch yourself in the dick seventeen times in order to teach a lesson.

Achilles >>>>>> Boxing >>>>>> karate

YookaLaylee posted...

I only trained in Karate and Boxing for one year each but Karate seemed like complete bullshit to me. All of the movements are too rigid and the karate stance is kind of a joke imo. Youre right about boxers having the weakness of not being able to deal with kicks or being on the ground, but their footwork and punches are way better than what youll learn doing Karate. The conditioning and drills that boxers do are more intense than pretty much every martial art other than Muay Thai. Id rather being an expert boxer than a black belt in Karate

oh, no doubt. The conditioning of boxing is insane, makes me wonder why that kind of focus isn't put into other martial arts.

>TC gets sweeped in the leg by demetri. Black guy grabs him in a chokehold and puts him on his knees
>The rest of Miyagi continues to strike him once in the chest and solar plexus, in turns
>57 year old Daniel son is the last one and ends it with a crane kick to the face and says,"Don't you dare disrespect myclan"!

>jk Daniel Lawrence comes in drunk and puts a beer bottle on TC's head and kicks the beer bottle in mid air, and proceeds to kick him in the nuts once before leaving. "That's did disrespecting karate."

itt people who watch fighters on tv think they're qualified to say shit about shit

Doubt it, because the practicality of fighting in a boxing style against other styles that allow for more freedom puts boxers at a severe disadvantage. Boxing is fighting with severe limitations on what you can and can't do. With that said, boxers do tend to be better at conditioning, which severely increases their stamina so a battle of contrition a boxer is at a bigger advantage. You can carry a lot of things from boxing over to other fighting styles, but boxing in of itself is a disadvantage because the sport is built around those limitations.

SauI_Goodman posted...

Lmao boxing is the most one dimensional of martial arts. Thats why they always get owned.

Maybe not. The crux of boxing is figuring out your opponent and getting in damage faster than you get done in. You have to be in good physical condition, have endurance to pain and a drive to win, and be able to strategize.

Then again. Boxing dates back to the Ancient Greeks so it may just be an anachronism. I want to see it.

Bullshido

Tory would kick you in the balls and you'd curl up on the ground hiding your boner

Hey, while we're on the martial arts vs boxing topic, any of you ever see Ip Man 2? Spoilers for that movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTy_mgJIIrk

Heartomaton posted...

Hey, while we're on the martial arts vs boxing topic, any of you ever see Ip Man 2? Spoilers for that movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTy_mgJIIrk

that smack to the ear is no joke. I've had vertigo before and it really messes you up royally.

CobraGT posted...

Maybe not. The crux of boxing is figuring out your opponent and getting in damage faster than you get done in. You have to be in good physical condition, have endurance to pain and a drive to win, and be able to strategize.

Then again. Boxing dates back to the Ancient Greeks so it may just be an anachronism. I want to see it.

A boxer has a punchers chance. If that one punch doesnt land he has no chance. Overwhelming mma fighters have dominated boxers.

Ivany2008 posted...

that smack to the ear is no joke. I've had vertigo before and it really messes you up royally.

I've never had the displeasure, though I have caused it to other people.

Heartomaton posted...

I've never had the displeasure, though I have caused it to other people.

I don't register myself as a tough guy. But I can take a hit, and stuff like broken bones, cracked ribs, and to a lesser extent needles don't really affect me too much. But my god Vertigo was something else. I didn't even get it while fighting. I just woke up one day, used the washroom and on the way back to bed my ears popped and it was like the world was spinning. I literally fell forward on to my bed as it messed up my senses so much that I forgot how to walk properly. I only managed to fix it thanks to something I read years ago about smacking the back of your head which adjusted the crystals in my ears.

The best way to describe it would be this: One part of my vision was swaying back and forward while everything else was rotating and spinning. Messed me up for a solid 10 minutes.

Ivany2008 posted...

I don't register myself as a tough guy. But I can take a hit, and stuff like broken bones, cracked ribs, and to a lesser extent needles don't really affect me too much. But my god Vertigo was something else. I didn't even get it while fighting. I just woke up one day, used the washroom and on the way back to bed my ears popped and it was like the world was spinning. I literally fell forward on to my bed as it messed up my senses so much that I forgot how to walk properly. I only managed to fix it thanks to something I read years ago about smacking the back of your head which adjusted the crystals in my ears.

The best way to describe it would be this: One part of my vision was swaying back and forward while everything else was rotating and spinning. Messed me up for a solid 10 minutes.

That does sound truly awful.

Heartomaton posted...

That does sound truly awful.

It's one of those experiences you don't forget. It's not painful in any way shape or form. But when it happens you become really light headed.

Ivany2008 posted...

I don't register myself as a tough guy. But I can take a hit, and stuff like broken bones, cracked ribs, and to a lesser extent needles don't really affect me too much. But my god Vertigo was something else. I didn't even get it while fighting. I just woke up one day, used the washroom and on the way back to bed my ears popped and it was like the world was spinning. I literally fell forward on to my bed as it messed up my senses so much that I forgot how to walk properly. I only managed to fix it thanks to something I read years ago about smacking the back of your head which adjusted the crystals in my ears.

The best way to describe it would be this: One part of my vision was swaying back and forward while everything else was rotating and spinning. Messed me up for a solid 10 minutes.

@Ivany2008

Do your self a massively huge favor and look up vertigo exercises and memorize how to do them now. You will get it again later. It doesn't stop. I get bad vertigo to from how many times I've been hit in head.

The exercises are the only way to stop it in less than a minute.

https://www.webmd.com/brain/home-remedies-vertigo

Sworth posted...

@Ivany2008

Do your self a massively huge favor and look up vertigo exercises and memorize how to do them now. You will get it again later. It doesn't stop. I get bad vertigo to from how many times I've been hit in head.

The exercises are the only way to stop it in less than a minute.

https://www.webmd.com/brain/home-remedies-vertigo

maybe, though that was 3 years ago, so hopefully I don't get it again. I've already dealt with something far far worse late last year so don't need to deal with that again lol

gna647 posted...

Boxing >>>>>> karate

TC's opinion <<<<<< shit

A boxer targets the head. It is allowed as long as the boxer hits the face, ear-back of the head, whatever with his fist. If the match allowed the boxer to land blows with boxing rules and the mma'er to and blows with mma rules, I would think the boxer would win simply because the mma'er would not be used to fighting with his head ringing.