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Doom_Art
01/14/22 9:22:51 AM
#1:


for example

"I can't come to the pub tonight for I'm working."

"We should get two rooms for there's more than one group."

And I wanna slap him

Don't fucking talk like that

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ModLogic
01/14/22 9:23:38 AM
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whomst cares

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
01/14/22 9:24:54 AM
#3:


Apparently it's correct just outdated. I had to look it up because when your example "for" kind of makes sense and I wasn't sure why.

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Doom_Art
01/14/22 9:33:00 AM
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ModLogic posted...
whomst cares
It's just weird

WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
Apparently it's correct just outdated. I had to look it up because when your example "for" kind of makes sense and I wasn't sure why.
I mean yes it's correct but don't talk all outdated like that

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ApherosyLove
01/14/22 9:36:13 AM
#5:


I feel like you need to a comma to make it work, for it just looks wrong otherwise.

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MorbidFaithless
01/14/22 10:03:32 AM
#6:


I mean it's not incorrect.

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__aCEr__
01/14/22 10:07:24 AM
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We shall drink heartily on the morrow.

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Xavier_On_High
01/14/22 10:09:11 AM
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Is your friend the ghost of Oscar Wilde?

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AvlButtslam
01/14/22 10:10:15 AM
#9:


I should totally start doing that, for I always text/type pretty properly but I dont like typing out because in full.

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Solution_45
01/14/22 10:11:20 AM
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I am unable to go outside this evening, for I am making soup
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Shablagoo
01/14/22 10:13:43 AM
#11:


AvlButtslam posted...
I should totally start doing that, for I always text/type pretty properly but I dont like typing out because in full.

This lol, TC may have created a legion of that which he hates here

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The-Apostle
01/14/22 10:15:11 AM
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He should at least use a comma, for it looks better and makes it easier to read.

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SweetieBeIle462
01/14/22 10:16:30 AM
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That's odd

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ThyCorndog
01/14/22 10:18:54 AM
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Solution_45 posted...
I am unable to go outside this evening, for I am making soup
Lol

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Pogo_Marimo
01/14/22 10:25:11 AM
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ApherosyLove posted...
I feel like you need to a comma to make it work, for it just looks wrong otherwise.
That would be comma splicing and it would actually make it wrong.

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ApherosyLove
01/14/22 10:33:33 AM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
That would be comma splicing and it would actually make it wrong.
What do I know, I'm just an English teacher.

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Tom Clark
01/14/22 10:36:25 AM
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Solution_45 posted...
I am unable to go outside this evening, for I am making soup

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The-Apostle
01/14/22 10:37:28 AM
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ApherosyLove posted...
What do I know, I'm just an English teacher.

:v
I agree with you, for it looks weird without the comma.

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Pogo_Marimo
01/14/22 11:02:36 AM
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ApherosyLove posted...
What do I know, I'm just an English teacher.

:v
Oh damn, "for" is a coordinating conjuction. I don't believe I've ever even considered it in that context, for it is a vexxingly Victorian way of speaking.

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The-Apostle
01/14/22 11:04:57 AM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Oh damn, "for" is a coordinating conjuction. I don't believe I've ever even considered it in that context, for it is a vexxingly Victorian way of speaking.
Well, yeah, in this context, "for" is the same as "because," which generally has a comma before it.

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Pogo_Marimo
01/14/22 11:23:47 AM
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The-Apostle posted...
Well, yeah, in this context, "for" is the same as "because," which generally has a comma before it.
"Because" should not have a comma before it--at least in formal writing. That is why I thought "for" created a comma splice. It is arbitrary, as half of all things grammatic writing are, but that is the rules as taught.

I do agree with "because" not being a coordinating conjuction because it ties the two clauses together in a more significant way than a coordinating conjuction implies (Which is why it is a subjective conjuction). In that regards, however, I don't particularly see a point in continuing to use "for" in that role either aside from an appeal to tradition.

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Arcanine2009
01/14/22 11:25:36 AM
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You're just hating him for his higher English nobility?

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omega cookie
01/14/22 11:27:41 AM
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There's two reasons I can see to do that.

One. He's trying to make himself seem more interesting than he is. The hipster explanation. If you can confirm, tell him I hate him.

Two. He's doing it to save time when sending out texts. Strange, but effective. If you can confirm, tell him I hate it, but I respect it.

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ApherosyLove
01/14/22 11:35:34 AM
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ApherosyLove posted...
What do I know, I'm just an English teacher.

:v
Okay when I said this I didn't mean I was correct because I'm an English teacher.

I was making fun of myself because apparently I'm shit at English and have no business teaching it

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