Current Events > If a videogame has a 'slow walk & talk' segment I uninstall...

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Its not the same as an in-engine cutscene, all MGSV cutscenes are in-engine but the game has the good grace to let you skip them (not talking about the helicopter rides because that's hiding loading).

But invariably you can never skip game segments where you have to hold forward on the control stick as your character painstakingly shuffles through a hallway or conspicuously linear outdoor area while they talk with someone else. And the thing is when a game hits you with that early on you know there's gonna be much more of it too.

Also, damn, I've started to notice how much I still negatively compare other games released today with MGSV. I remember binging that game on release but that was almost 7 years ago now, and that game STILL feels like a next gen title in terms of presentation and gameplay that other companies are struggling to catch up with

Why yes I do think a gamepass can be an event

MedeaLysistrata posted...

Why yes I do think a gamepass can be an event

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Doe posted...

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OVERGOATED posted...

I got so tired of Horizon Zero Dawn because it spent like an hour before letting you out into the world. Got bored af

Seriously if I want a movie I'll watch a movie! Let me swing my sword and explore.

If the game doesnt start with a poignant quote nor based on actual events, I leave it in the dust.

NashtheLion posted...

If the game doesnt start with a poignant quote nor based on actual events, I leave it in the dust.

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I feel it can be done right but often isn't. In red dead redemption 2 it felt immersive but it has hurt my desire to play it again.

NashtheLion posted...

If the game doesnt start with a poignant quote nor based on actual events, I leave it in the dust.

Hey, you. You're finally awake. You were trying to cross the border, right? Walked right into that Imperial ambush, same as us, and that thief over there.

mooreandrew58 posted...

I feel it can be done right but often isn't. In red dead redemption 2 it felt immersive but it has hurt my desire to play it again.

I'm trying to convince myself to open it right now but holy shit that prologue put me off.

OVERGOATED posted...

I got so tired of Horizon Zero Dawn because it spent like an hour before letting you out into the world. Got bored af

H:ZD at least didn't do the slow walk thing too much. After that into tutorial, you could go as fast as you wanted.

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Never played it

pegusus123456 posted...

I'm trying to convince myself to open it right now but holy shit that prologue put me off

It gets better but still sucks for things like you can't run while in camp. You have to go out of your way to unlock fast travel and even then it's very limited. Iirc you can fast travel out of camp but not back to it.

But if you could just fast travel all willy nilly you'd miss a lot of entertaining random encounters.

My bigger problem with RDR2 was how it yanks your dick about an honor system and then immediately gives you forced missions where for example you break out a fellow gang member and then literally massacre all the townsfolk of the town where the jail is and Arthur is just like "hmmm was this wrong"

It doesn't do it that often, but the trek with the boar in God of War is so painful.

DeadBankerDream posted...

It doesn't do it that often, but the trek with the boar in God of War is so painful.

GoW kind of baffles me, there hasn't been a boss since The Stranger in how far I've played but there has been two of the giants and then there's like no enemy variety AT ALL and Kratos isn't nearly mobile enough for dealing with the ranged lobbing enemies to not be annoying. Maybe it's just not a frontloaded game but I never leave it wanting to play more

mooreandrew58 posted...

It gets better but still sucks for things like you can't run while in camp. You have to go out of your way to unlock fast travel and even then it's very limited. Iirc you can fast travel out of camp but not back to it.

But if you could just fast travel all willy nilly you'd miss a lot of entertaining random encounters.

The annoying thing for me so far is that your horse only hears you in a certain radius. So when I do a mission that sends me into town on a cart and then leaves my ass there, I end up walking back. That's the sort of obnoxious realism that R* likes to add that turns me off.

Doe posted...

My bigger problem with RDR2 was how it yanks your dick about an honor system and then immediately gives you forced missions where for example you break out a fellow gang member and then literally massacre all the townsfolk of the town where the jail is and Arthur is just like "hmmm was this wrong"

Well the point of the story is his struggles with the morality of what he does vs his loyalness to what he considers his family since the gang raised him.

So I can see him doing things out of loyalty then in hindsight questioning it.

John Marston bugged me more with his dilemmas with what he was doing when helping side characters.

Edit. I would killed Micah though when you end up shooting up a tow.just to get his guns back

FFVIIR does it at least once per chapter, even it's going between crates Cloud can clear with a jump

mooreandrew58 posted...

John Marston bugged me more with his dilemmas with what he was doing when helping side characters.

If you mean the first game, I didn't actually notice that. Most of them time he seemed to go with the "lmao sure let's see what happens" mindset.

Hell, there's that one quest where a guy is trying to make an airplane and Marston agrees to help solely because he believes that the dude is just going to walk himself off a cliff.

Sure but I'm talking about the dissonance between gameplay and narrative. Refusing to help a snitch up from a cliff is dishonorable and effects peoples disposition with you but shooting up a town of people and playing watch while your homie goes and puts two in his ex wife's head has no effect because it's a main mission.

Doe posted...

GoW kind of baffles me, there hasn't been a boss since The Stranger in how far I've played but there has been two of the giants and then there's like no enemy variety AT ALL and Kratos isn't nearly mobile enough for dealing with the ranged lobbing enemies to not be annoying. Maybe it's just not a frontloaded game but I never leave it wanting to play more

The game definitely has an enemy variety problem, yeah. As for the lack of early game bosses, I feel like, on one hand, it's part of that same problem, but also, it's kind of an imitation of the pace of first GoW that had the Hydra boss in the tutorial and then took forever to get to a second one.

Either way, I don't like it.

pegusus123456 posted...

If you mean the first game, I didn't actually notice that. Most of them time he seemed to go with the "lmao sure let's see what happens" mindset.

Hell, there's that one quest where a guy is trying to make an airplane and Marston agrees to help solely because he believes that the dude is just going to walk himself off a cliff.

He whines and complains a lot. That's probably it for me. I didnt like CJ in gta for similar reasons. Like he'll complain that what they are doing is fucked up but still let's himself get roped into it and complain the whole time.

It's been a long time but my more vivid memories of this is the missions with the snake oil salesman and the crazy grave robber

mooreandrew58 posted...

He whines and complains a lot. That's probably it for me. I didnt like CJ in gta for similar reasons. Like he'll complain that what they are doing is fucked up but still let's himself get roped into it and complain the whole time.

It's been a long time but my more vivid memories of this is the missions with the snake oil salesman and the crazy grave robber

John has a good reason for it though. He doesn't want to do a single damn thing in the game, but his wife and child are being held hostage, so he has to do it anyway.

pegusus123456 posted...

John has a good reason for it though. He doesn't want to do a single damn thing in the game, but his wife and child are being held hostage, so he has to do it anyway.

I know but at times it seems like putting a gun to their head and saying you will help me or I will kill you is a less fucked up thing than what he ends up doing. I know I know that wouldn't make for a good game though.

The end of 2 and the final mission playing as John in 1 is the main reasons I do have some love for his character.

2 is the better game/story but 1 had a more tearjerking ending for me. I mean the end as in John's story. What happens after just is a feel good revenge

Edit. It's weird. Never been a western fan but rdr is some of my favorite games

mooreandrew58 posted...

It's been a long time but my more vivid memories of this is the missions with the snake oil salesman.

ResetEra could be okay?

That type of thing is often used to load a bunch of assets. Do you also uninstall games with loading screens?

scar the 1 posted...

That type of thing is often used to load a bunch of assets. Do you also uninstall games with loading screens?

Problem is that with re-releases of games loading screens get diminished, possibly into nothing. If the developers decide to turn it into a story section to mask the loading, that walking section will always be there.

scar the 1 posted...

That type of thing is often used to load a bunch of assets. Do you also uninstall games with loading screens?

Not always. RDR2 has you slowly walk down a mountain when you can see your destination.

TC would hate the final segment of Shenmue 2

Game basically ends with a "walk and talk"

I'm fine with it

Yeah I'm with you on this, I detest the walkie talkie. The first time through you don't mind it that much but you just know, somewhere in the back of your mind, that you'll hate the shit out of them on a replay.

OVERGOATED posted...

I got so tired of Horizon Zero Dawn because it spent like an hour before letting you out into the world. Got bored af

Yeah its a slow open. Shame you didnt preservers though. Game is amazing once it opens up.

DeadBankerDream posted...

Problem is that with re-releases of games loading screens get diminished, possibly into nothing. If the developers decide to turn it into a story section to mask the loading, that walking section will always be there.

Surely that's a problem for future me and not present me!

Actually this topic made me think of zero Dawn and how if you were listening to an audible log while having a conversation with someone it would do both and you end up missing the conversation.

I'll tolerate it once but let me skip it if I want.

If anyone ever played The Saboteur, you can talk with people who give you missions, but if you hit "skip", your character will just say "Just get to the point!" and the person will say "go to place A and blow up the target". I thought that was neat.

Good. It's miserable every time.

Doe posted...

Seriously if I want a movie I'll watch a movie! Let me swing my sword and explore.

Sorry, can't pass up an opportunity to use this:
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Yakuza is the only series ill forgive for this.

Seaman_Prime posted...

Yakuza is the only series ill forgive for this.

Having your stroll interrupted by absurd reasons to beat people up is the primary game mechanic

Michael Biehn in Blood Dragon perfectly captured my feelings on "tutorial and exposition" in games.

"Just let me kill, damnit!"

Honestly skippable cutscenes in games never ever bothered me

People bitch and moan but there's a reason why you can play Mass Effect for 300 hours but not Space Invaders

Cutscenes cad add serious emotional weight and story