Poll of the Day > Fun Facts about Spousal Support for anyone going through a divorce in California

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swordofkarma
01/20/22 11:11:42 PM
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I used to think that with a divorce that the partner that automatically made more money would always be ordered to pay spousal support. Funny thing is, it turns out it doesn't work that way at all. I just thought I'd post this here because it is just SOOO Fascinating.

Here are some Factors a Judge will consider in awarding spousal support.

  • the marketable skills of the supported spouse; the job market for those skills;(that means if you have credentials for high demand jobs like culinary arts or Nursing, the court will likely determine there is no true need for spousal support. If a well bodied person simply refused to work for the past few years because their wife, i mean partner made enough to pay the bills, the court isn't going to give you jack shit in most scenarios)the time and expense required for the supported spouse to acquire the appropriate education or training to develop those skills; and the possible need for retraining or education to acquire more marketable skills or employment
  • the supported spouse's ability to work outside the home without excessively interfering with the interests of any dependent children in his or her custody, and (Welp, if there aren't children keeping one from working, then this one is pretty much moot and the absence of said children is a good argument against a spousal support award)
  • the extent to which the supported spouse's earning capacity is impaired by periods of unemployment incurred during the marriage to permit the supported spouse to devote time to domestic duties. (This usually means children, if there are no kids to stay home and take care of, then there aren't really any domestic duties that would justify a well bodied adult male err I mean person to have been unemployed aside from laziness)
  • the extent to which the supported spouse contributed to the paying spouse's attainment of an education, training, career, or license (It's usually pretty hard to make a case for spousal support when the other spouse supported you while you attained a professional license or credential for work in...say culinary arts or nursing for instance)


  • both spouses' financial needs based on the marital standard of living (This usually refers to housing accommodations, vehicles, etc and is usually based on what property is owned at the time of divorce. If there is no home and only one vehicle, then this usually isn't much of a consideration)
So to recap. You can't just assume you're getting spousal support because your wife...I mean partner actually made something of herself while you chose to leach off of her, and not work for the last 4-5 years. I don't know if anyone is in that particular situation in California, but I just happened to randomly read about it today because I love to learn about random things, and share my knowledge of it on random forums.

Anyway, that's all for today. I gotta bounce for now. Until next time I must go wherever the breeze takes me.


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BouncyBouncy
01/20/22 11:29:38 PM
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Thanks for your assistance in my case, this is EXACTLY the kind of thing FVPD have told me to keep documenting for them cause their resources are stretched pretty thin at the moment unfortunately.

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BouncyBouncy
01/20/22 11:38:03 PM
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I know everyone thinks Ive simply lost my mind but TC is apparently one of the random thugs that thinks they were clever enough to fucking kill me.

They arent that clever by half.

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BouncyBouncy
01/20/22 11:41:30 PM
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i know man its dirty laundry thats nobodys business

but this is the shit Ive been dealing with every single day these people are hacking my phones and my accounts and trying to post as me on social media and theyre trying to make it impossible for me to land a job or find housing or even get a mailing address to try to make either of those things possible. I dont know how to stop them

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Lil_Bit83
01/20/22 11:45:21 PM
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Have never been married and divorced, but why would someone's ex need spousal support? Child support sure, but not spousal support.

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swordofkarma
01/21/22 12:12:01 AM
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BouncyBouncy posted...
Thanks for your assistance in my case, this is EXACTLY the kind of thing FVPD have told me to keep documenting for them cause their resources are stretched pretty thin at the moment unfortunately.

I'm sorry. Who are you? What's an FVPD? I didn't know talking about divorce law was illegal. What a strange place this is.

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BlackScythe0
01/21/22 12:13:25 AM
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Lil_Bit83 posted...
Have never been married and divorced, but why would someone's ex need spousal support? Child support sure, but not spousal support.

Stuff like this is typically stay overs from the times where women largely weren't part of the work force. Basically it's to keep people from going to poverty or homelessness after a divorce if they have no marketable skills.
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ParanoidObsessive
01/21/22 12:29:01 AM
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The bigger problem with California is the automatic 50-50 asset split regardless of what each partner originally brought to the table.

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adjl
01/21/22 2:18:23 PM
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Aaaand account is closed. That was short-lived.

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FatalAccident
01/21/22 2:21:09 PM
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Both accounts were mead?

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Zeus
01/21/22 2:24:30 PM
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adjl posted...
Aaaand account is closed. That was short-lived.

Yeah, what the fuck is going on here?


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adjl
01/21/22 2:30:18 PM
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Something rather odd.

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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 2:37:00 PM
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Wow... did mead just false flag themselves and get busted in the act?

Whatever the case is, if you're one of meads friends, please continue to enable their behavior. It is clearly doing them a lot of good.
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streamofthesky
01/21/22 2:37:46 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
Both accounts were mead?
Or the TC was posing as Mead, and then Mead threatened to report TC to the police (PD... not sure what FV stands for.... Fresno Valley?) and TC fled?

I don't know. Pretty weird, like all of the Mead drama.

Lil_Bit83 posted...
Have never been married and divorced, but why would someone's ex need spousal support? Child support sure, but not spousal support.
lol, you sound logical and pro-equality. Your views have no place in family law!

ParanoidObsessive posted...
The bigger problem with California is the automatic 50-50 asset split regardless of what each partner originally brought to the table.
Well yeah, community property laws are bull shit. But it should at least benefit Mead in this case.

BouncyBouncy posted...
i know man its dirty laundry thats nobodys business

but this is the shit Ive been dealing with every single day these people are hacking my phones and my accounts and trying to post as me on social media and theyre trying to make it impossible for me to land a job or find housing or even get a mailing address to try to make either of those things possible. I dont know how to stop them

If you know who's doing it, then you had the right idea. Collect the evidence and report it all to the police, file for some sort of restraining order (is there an equivalent for online harassment?), etc...
Though it's become very hard to tell from the outside if people really are out to get you, or if you're just losing "it"...

EDIT: Oh wow, both accounts are gone, thought just TC was. Seriously, Mead, get professional help. Re-evaluate your life decisions and outlook, instead of just doubling down.
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Jen0125
01/21/22 2:39:38 PM
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Seems like Mead thinks OP is someone trying to provoke him in his personal life in a way that'll look poorly for his divorce
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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 2:51:14 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Seems like Mead thinks OP is someone trying to provoke him in his personal life in a way that'll look poorly for his divorce

Actually it seems like mead is OP. Hence why both accounts immediately closed when they got usermap axed.
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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 3:02:16 PM
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Mead was trying to garner attention, as they often did, because this board was the one place they got positive attention, no matter how they acted. Made an account to false flag themselves because they wanted that enorphine rush that their buds are usually so ready to provide. Got caught.

Hopefully they're going to be alright, but given that they never really sought a healthy way to deal with their problems, I have doubts.
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Jen0125
01/21/22 3:04:50 PM
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Notschmendrake posted...
Actually it seems like mead is OP. Hence why both accounts immediately closed when they got usermap axed.

I'm not speculating who it is. I'm stating what Mead is portraying to me through his comments.
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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 3:21:52 PM
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No need to speculate on anything. It was mead. Case closed.

Whatever they were trying to portray is nothing more than that since the entire story they're selling is a fabrication.
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Jen0125
01/21/22 3:26:54 PM
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Okay I don't care
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HornedLion
01/21/22 3:34:34 PM
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How bout both parties fuck off, and keep whatever they brought to the table. Split custody of the cubs lest one parent is involved in criminal activity. Case closed.

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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 3:36:48 PM
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Not surprising. Most people usually plug their ears when it comes to hearing shit they dont like, especially when it's about people they do like.
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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 3:38:18 PM
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HornedLion posted...
How bout both parties fuck off, and keep whatever they brought to the table. Split custody of the cubs lest one parent is involved in criminal activity. Case closed.

But then mead would be homeless seeing as how they brought absolutely nothing to the table aside from being a mooch. How are they supposed to maintain that lifestyle now that they've become accustomed to it?
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Jen0125
01/21/22 3:39:48 PM
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Notschmendrake posted...
Not surprising. Most people usually plug their ears when it comes to hearing shit they dont like, especially when it's about people they do like.

What would you have just said about Mead that I wouldn't like? You are a very weird man.
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MartianManchild
01/21/22 3:54:33 PM
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Having kept up on everything that has been happening, this all seems legit.
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Far-Queue
01/21/22 3:56:02 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
What would you have just said about Mead that I wouldn't like? You are a very weird man.
He has the personality of dryer lint and no one gives a shit about him so he has to latch on to Mead's coattails in order to get the attention he craves.

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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 4:16:03 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
He has the personality of dryer lint and no one gives a shit about him so he has to latch on to Mead's coattails in order to get the attention he craves.

Still a girl, and always have been. Took you fuckers 2 seconds to adjust your pronoun use for mead. Or is that whole tolerance thing just a show you put on, and not something g you actually believe?

Sorry your bud lied to you and turned out to be crazy and manipulative though. In guessing that sting is why you're being so angry right now, so I'll let it slide this time sweetheart
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Far-Queue
01/21/22 4:30:13 PM
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Thought you weren't responding to me because you're "so much better at this" lmao so much for that

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Jen0125
01/21/22 4:37:05 PM
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Notschmendrake posted...
Or is that whole tolerance thing just a show you put on, and not something g you actually believe?

It's more so that no one believes you
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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 4:45:47 PM
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Jesus christ, way to remember a post that I made probably 2 months ago. I didnt even remember who the fuck you were till you said something lol. Even when you're this upset you cant stop thinking about me huh?

Thanks for letting me live in your head rent free, but I dont need another house. You can give that space to your lying buddy. He needs it assuming he wasnt lying about that part too
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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 4:46:44 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
It's just a show.

Yep. Figured.
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Jen0125
01/21/22 4:50:04 PM
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It's against the TOS to edit people's comments so
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Far-Queue
01/21/22 4:54:01 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
It's more so that no one believes you
This 100%

He's so full of shit it's coming out of his ears

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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 4:57:37 PM
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Notice how jen's being smart enough not to actually call me "he"?

You should have maybe taken a page from that book. You know, the "fake bakebone with no substance playbook"?
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Jen0125
01/21/22 4:59:25 PM
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I mean I've called you he and him a hundred times because I fully do not believe you are a woman

Everyone knows you're claiming to be a woman to do some weird transphobic gotcha BS
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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 5:06:51 PM
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Nothing to do with being trans whatsoever. Just a biologically female human being.. anything beyond that is just you projecting your hate and insecurity as usual.

Rest of the board has been calling me she no issue since the first time I mentioned it. Just not you and your fake woke buds ;)

Youre still not actively going to call me "he" though regardless of what you believe. Just passively point out that you've done so in the past. Smart move. Spineless, but smart.
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HornedLion
01/21/22 5:07:32 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
It's against the TOS to edit people's comments so

Sadly Ive learned this the hard way.

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Jen0125
01/21/22 5:08:59 PM
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Okay bro good luck with all that
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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 5:11:49 PM
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I knew your pride would eventually get you to cave lol. You are soooooooo easy to play.
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Jen0125
01/21/22 5:12:26 PM
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You are very weird I hope you can figure that out soon
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Sarcasthma
01/21/22 5:12:50 PM
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I am a master manipulator! Blehhh!

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Jen0125
01/21/22 5:16:50 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...
I am a master manipulator! Blehhh!

Lmaoo
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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 5:24:33 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...
I am a master manipulator! Blehhh!

Kinda the opposite though. Jen is just insanely predictable, because she has no personality. It's all pre programmed. You give her this input she gives you that ouput. Easy.
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Far-Queue
01/21/22 5:33:24 PM
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Go ahead and mark my posts schmen I don't give a shit. No one believes you're "schmen's wife" or whatever BS you're trying to sell these days. Your shit is played out and tired, and it's sad that you have to glom onto other people's hardships in order to feel better about your own life

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Far-Queue
01/21/22 5:35:50 PM
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Also can't even come up with your own takedowns lmao

Notschmendrake posted...
Jen has no personality
Now where have I heard that before oh yeah that's right

Far-Queue posted...
He has the personality of dryer lint


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Jen0125
01/21/22 5:38:05 PM
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adjl
01/21/22 5:48:23 PM
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I've come to the conclusion that notschmen is most likely not schmen. There are enough similarities in personalities that I presumed they were the same person from the start, but after further exposure there do seem to be personality differences that are probably genuine (at least, differences that would require a lot more subtlety than Schmen has ever been able to pull off in order to fake this convincingly). I could be wrong, but there's also absolutely no harm in being wrong in this case, so meh.

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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 5:49:15 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Go ahead and mark my posts schmen I don't give a shit. No one believes you're "schmen's wife" or whatever BS you're trying to sell these days. Your shit is played out and tired, and it's sad that you have to glom onto other people's hardships in order to feel better about your own life

Youre literally one of only 3 or 4 people still banging on that drum, but sure buddy. I know you're also real sore about mead lying so I'll give you a free pass on this one too
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Notschmendrake
01/21/22 6:03:25 PM
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adjl posted...
(at least, differences that would require a lot more subtlety than Schmen has ever been able to pull off in order to fake this convincingly).

He is a big fucking dummy and he cost me a few accounts back in the day with his inability to maintain an alt lol.

You know troll police was mine before he fucked it up and started double posting? That was a good account for a while.

Either way, I appreciate your attitude about it even if I dont like you. Not sure what big fucking anti trans gotcha moment these 3 genius detectives are expecting by me saying I am biologically female, and identify as such. Then again I doubt that's what it's really about for them.
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